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    4 suspected Ga. militia members accused in plot

    ATLANTA (AP) — Federal agents arrested four suspected members of a Georgia militia on charges of plotting attacks with toxins and explosives in Atlanta and against unnamed government officials.

    The four, who authorities arrested Tuesday, were expected to appear in federal court in Gainesville, Ga., on Wednesday afternoon.

    They were part of a group that also tried to obtain an unregistered explosive device and sought out the complex formula to produce ricin, a biological toxin that can be lethal in small doses, according to a federal complaint.

    One suspect discussed ways of dispersing ricin from an airplane in the sky over Washington, court records state. Another suspected member of the group intended to use the plot of an online novel as a model for plans to attack U.S. federal law officers and others, authorities said. Court documents state that 73-year-old Frederick Thomas told others he intended to model their actions on the online novel "Absolved," which involves small groups of citizens attacking U.S. officials.

    The four listed in the indictment are Thomas; Dan Roberts, 67; Ray Adams, 65; and Samuel Crump, 68. The men live in the north Georgia towns of Cleveland and Toccoa.

    At least two of the suspects are former federal employees, court records show.

    Adams used to work as a lab technician for a U.S. Department of Agriculture agency known as the Agricultural Research Service. Court documents say officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed that another suspect, Crump, worked there in the past for a contractor that did maintenance at the Atlanta-based agency.

    On Sept. 17, prosecutors say Crump was recorded by a confidential informant as saying he would like to make 10 pounds of ricin, which would be simultaneously placed in several U.S. cities. Prosecutors say possible cities mentioned were Washington; Newark, N.J.; Jacksonville, Fla.; Atlanta and New Orleans and Crump suggesting the ricin could be blown out of a car speeding down an interstate highway.

    The group had been talking about "covert" operations since at least March, according to court records, discussing murder, theft and using toxic agents and assassinations to undermine the state and federal government.

    At one meeting, investigators say, Thomas openly discussed creating a "bucket list" of government employees, politicians, corporate leaders and members of the media he felt needed to be "taken out."

    "I've been to war, and I've taken life before, and I can do it again," he told an undercover investigator, according to the records.

    Thomas' wife, Charlotte, called the charges "baloney."

    "He spent 30 years in the U.S. Navy. He would not do anything against his country," she said in a phone interview with The Associated Press.

    Thomas and Roberts are accused of buying what they believed was a silencer and an unregistered explosive from an undercover informant in May and June. Prosecutors say he discussed using the weapons in attacks against federal buildings.

    Thomas is accused of driving to Atlanta with a confidential informant on May 24 and scoping out an Internal Revenue Service building there and an ATF building "to plan and assess for possible attacks," the indictment states.

    "We'd have to blow the whole building, like Timothy McVeigh," Thomas said during the Atlanta trip, referring to the man executed for bombing a federal building in Oklahoma City, the indictment states.

    Adams, meanwhile, is accused of showing an informant the formula to make ricin and identifying the ways to obtain the ingredients.

    Charlotte Thomas said her husband was arrested in a restaurant in Cornelia, Ga., and federal agents were at her home when she returned from the grocery store Tuesday afternoon. She said the agents wouldn't let her in her home.

    "They tore up my house," Charlotte Thomas said.

    She said her husband doesn't have an attorney yet.

    Margaret Roberts of Toccoa said FBI agents showed up with a search warrant and went through her home, handcuffing her and taking a computer and other items. She said her husband is retired from the sign business and lives on pensions.

    "He's never been in trouble with the law. He's not anti-government. He would never hurt anybody," she said.

    Listed numbers for the other two suspects could not be found.

    Attorneys for the men were not identified, and the federal defender's office had no immediate comment.

    U.S. Attorney Sally Quillian Yates said the case is a reminder that "we must also remain vigilant in protecting our country from citizens within our own borders who threaten our safety and security."

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    Associated Press writers Dorie Turner and Leonard Pallats contributed to this story.

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    • La  •  6 mths ago
      I wonder why they don't say what the motives were.
      • MarcD 6 mths ago
        Motives? What motives? We don' got no motives. WE DON' NEED NO STINKING MOTIVES!
      • Doc 6 mths ago
        As if there is a proper motive for TERRORISM?
      • Who owns the fed 6 mths ago
        Haha, coffee house banter = a clear and present danger. SWARM SWARM. FBI agents had more to fear from the coffee they serve at waffle house.
    • Greaseman  •  6 mths ago
      These goddamn Muslim terrorists! They're all terrorists! Huh? What you mean they're American? And white? Conservative too? Well...in that case they're patriotic Americans standing up against Obama and taking our country back! Git 'er done!
      • Who owns the fed 6 mths ago
        Maybe they're just angry white people that are tired of watching their culture be exterminated by Tyreek, Jose and now Achmed.
      • Scott 6 mths ago
        I think that they are deluded & ignorant people who were looking for a way to spread ricin over Washington. You know, like the FBI recorded them talking about. Prison is where they belong.
      • Greaseman 6 mths ago
        They're terrorists. Plain and simple. Contrary to popular belief you don't have to be of Middle Eastern or Muslim descent to be a terrorist.
    • wanderleg  •  6 mths ago
      There's gotta be a lot more to this than is in the story.
      • Robert 6 mths ago
        no there probably isnt
      • MarcD 6 mths ago
        Sadly, there probably isn't. Like that "dire" Iranian bomb threat against the Saudi ambassador.
    • Grand Imam O'Reilly  •  6 mths ago
      Remember how the tea party started with whackos waving guns and saying they would impose their 2nd Amendment solutions on the rest of us? These guys never got the message to start blaming teachers and school custodians for the financial meltdown.
    • theredfoliot  •  Southfield, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Tea-Partiers, southerners, over 60, more dangerous than you'd ever imagine, fueled by right-wing haters like Beck & Osama Bin Limbaugh. Time to redo Sherman's March?
    • Big John Holmes  •  6 mths ago
      Grumpy old men.
    • stirring the pot  •  Middleburg, United States  •  6 mths ago
      You know they have Bush/Chaney stickers on their truck and listen to Rush
      • Who owns the fed 6 mths ago
        Idiots keep making the same lame jokes and bashing on southerners? Don't you have anything fresh? Like say from the last 5 years...
      • TJ 6 mths ago
        i know a lot who has the Bush/Cheney stickers on their truck but they live in the NorthEast. @who owns the fed - evolve to the next century. it seems you associate everything with trucks and bumper stickers to southerners. it proves that you have never left and never have seen anything else to realize the truth. to understand the truth thats a personal issue dependent on the individual with varying factors.
      • Doc 6 mths ago
        Glenn Beck Coloring Books and LOTS of crayons.
    • Robert  •  6 mths ago
      wow who ever said talk is cheap, sounds like talking is going to cost them quite a bit
    • David  •  6 mths ago
      Like to know if this group was receiving retirement money from the government they so despised. Some right wingers ranting about the government, social security, taxes, etc. seem to have some things in common: they do not manage money well, they cheat on or pay no taxes, and then retire on the hated Social Security which saves them from sliding into poverty.
      • Who owns the fed 6 mths ago
        Most of them would take the lump sum of the amount they paid in over 40 or 50 years of working all at once. But ss would never allow that. They hope you die before you get all you paid in.
    • Fritz  •  6 mths ago
      Sounds like dementia. When my grandad starting plotting terrorism against government officials my mom & dad placed him in a nursing home, I hear they serve pudding on Tuesday's he seems pretty happy about that.
    • Alpine  •  6 mths ago
      "All the issues Jensen raised in 1969 are still with us today. Indeed, much of the opposition to IQ testing and heritability would probably disappear if it were not for the stubborn and unwelcome fact that, despite extensive well funded programs of intervention, the Black-White difference refuses to go quietly into the night. Chapter 11 of The g Factor fully documents that, on average, the American Black population scores below the White population by about 1.2 standard deviations, equivalent to 18 IQ points. (This magnitude of difference gives a median overlap of less than 15 percent, meaning that less than 15 percent of the Black population exceeds the White average of 50 percent). The difference between Blacks and Whites in average IQ scores has scarcely changed over the past 80 years (despite some claims that the gap is narrowing) and can be observed as early as three years of age. Controlling for overall socioeconomic level only reduces the mean difference by 4 IQ points."
    • Dodge  •  6 mths ago
      We're very lucky that racists have low IQs.
    • give me a break  •  6 mths ago
      angry old white men.
    • Mack  •  6 mths ago
      Billy Joe Jim Bob and his buddies launching a terrorist attack on the US. What next?
    • LouisD  •  6 mths ago
      White trashbaggers bigger threat than Al Qaeda. They need to be exterminated
    • Scott  •  6 mths ago
      How could any American consider attacking Washington with ricin? "Boys, you're in big trouble."
    • vanman  •  Indianapolis, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Pop quiz : What country during the late 18th century defiled their governments laws and took up arms against their government in order to receive that which they were not entitled? As a direct result, thousands upon thousands of people were killed. Please keep in mind the definition of a terrorist. Let me know.
    • Francisco  •  6 mths ago
      Old, angry, racist bigots...The base of the GOP...
    • Rudi  •  6 mths ago
      Kinda makes you wonder what George Burns would be doing if he were alive today...Wasn't he in a movie about elderly bank robbers?
    • Dick Harder  •  Chicago, United States  •  6 mths ago
      What were they going to do at age 65? Lace Gerital with a toxin?
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