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    Agency will investigate 911 call in Powell fire

    TACOMA, Wash. (AP) — A social worker pleaded with a 911 dispatcher throughout a nearly seven-minute call to quickly get police to Josh Powell's house after he locked himself inside with his two sons.

    It took almost two minutes from the start of the call for the dispatcher to learn Powell's address and more than three minutes to understand that she was there to supervise a child custody visit. Near the end of the call, she asked how long before officers could get there.

    "I don't know, ma'am," he said. "We have to respond to emergency life-threatening situations first."

    She responded: "This could be life-threatening ... I'm afraid for their lives!"

    Authorities said the call could have been handled better, and that it was unfortunate for the dispatcher to leave the social worker with the impression no help was immediately on the way. The agency that runs the call center said it would review the matter and start a disciplinary investigation if necessary.

    Still, the recordings raised questions about an emergency response to a custody visit that ended with Powell killing himself and his boys.

    Pierce County Sheriff's Detective Ed Troyer said deputies appeared to have been dispatched during the call, and he did not believe the conversation caused unnecessary delays.

    "Are we unhappy with the etiquette and the manner? Yes," Troyer said. "Did it affect the response time? No. Dispatchers are typing information and addresses while they're on the phone with callers."

    Troyer said his department is waiting for a copy of the "call-and-dispatch" log from the 911 center to see exactly how long it took for deputies to respond.

    The details of the emergency calls emerged in audio recordings released by the sheriff's office late Tuesday. They did not include time stamps, and the call center did not immediately respond to a public records request from The Associated Press for the dispatch log.

    The social worker had driven the Powell boys, 5 and 7, from their grandparents' home to their father's house on Sunday. Josh Powell had lost custody of the boys last fall, after his father, with whom they lived, was arrested in a child pornography and voyeurism investigation.

    When she arrived, the boys ran into the house, and Powell slammed the door in her face, locking it.

    She called her supervisor and 911 using her cell phone, reaching the call center in Tacoma about 10 miles away from Powell's house just outside Puyallup, authorities said.

    In the first minutes of her first 911 call, the woman quickly laid out the situation:

    "Something really weird has happened. The kids went into the house and the parent — the biological parent — whose name is Josh Powell will not let me in the door. What should I do?

    "... I could hear one of the kids crying, and he still wouldn't let me in."

    Nearly 20 seconds into the call, the dispatcher asked her for the address. The social worker didn't know and needed to look for it. It took her about 90 seconds to find it in her car.

    At one point, she asked, "You can't find me by GPS?"

    He responded: "No." And then there was a pause of approximately 10 seconds.

    Pierce County, the second largest in the state and home to about 800,000 people, has an enhanced 911 system that is designed to give police an approximate location of the cell phone caller. It wasn't immediately clear if the call center used that feature to locate the social worker.

    While she was still looking for the address, she said, "But I think I need help right away."

    The dispatcher proceeded to question her repeatedly about who she was and her role.

    "Who is there to exercise the visitation?" he asked.

    "I am," she said. "The visit is with Josh Powell. And he's the husband of ..."

    "And who's supervising?" he asked.

    "I supervise."

    "So you supervise and you're doing the visit? You supervise yourself?" he asked.

    "I supervise myself. I'm the supervisor here."

    "Wait a minute. If it's a supervised visit, you can't supervise yourself if you're the visitor."

    After getting it straight, the dispatcher told her: "We'll have somebody look for you there."

    "OK, how long will it be?" the woman asked.

    That's when the dispatcher responded by saying he didn't know.

    Moments later, the house erupted in flames.

    The woman screamed in a separate call: "He exploded the house!"

    Authorities also released a 911 call Josh Powell's sister made Sunday, saying she received emails from her brother explaining what to do with his property and saying he couldn't live without his sons.

    Alina Powell told a dispatcher she feared her brother was going to do something because of pressure he faced after his wife, Susan, disappeared two years ago in Utah. Authorities considered him a "person of interest" in the case. It's unclear what time Alina Powell's 911 call was Sunday, but it appears the dispatcher had some knowledge of who Josh Powell was.

    Crying, Alina Powell told the dispatcher: "I'm terrified to drive over there. I'm not afraid of him. He's never hurt me. I'm afraid of seeing something I don't want to see."

     

    20 comments

    • Dori  •  Richmond, Michigan  •  3 mths ago
      I feel so bad for that poor social worker. She KNEW what he was going to do and was completely, totally helpless. I hope she can move on from this. BTW: I was a social worker in Detroit acting on an anonymous call that there was a child badly beaten. I went over there and this kid had peach sized bruises on both sides of his face (he was white and the bruises were very, very visible) and he told me everything in the most matter of fact way that I wanted to throw up. There was not a part of his body that wasn't brutalized. I called 911 because in in my state you can't remove without a court order and was told, "911 isn't coming." I asked for an ambulance, then, explaining the situation and again the woman said, "I'm sorry, 911 isn't coming." So I had to wait for the next day to get a court order, go to the police department for assistance in the removal (violence like that, you need backup), and got that poor, 8 year old child. The funny thing was that the officers were women, and when they read the petition for removal, the mother wouldn't answer the door they kicked it in, yelled his name and he came out, bewildered. I grabbed him up, and told him he was going to a better home. The good news: he got adopted from a wonderful family in the northern suburbs as both parents terminated their own rights at the first hearing. He had surgery to remove the calcification from beatings, and the parents were very concerned and understanding. That was over 13 years ago and I still wonder about that boy and how he's doing. But I understand her situation, and was there myself. My 8 year old client lived. If I didn't get him, I don't know how much longer he would have stayed alive. God bless the social workers.
      • The Crossing Guard 3 mths ago
        You made me cry.

        God bless you, for all you do.
      • L K 3 mths ago
        In Detroit the 911 system is overwhelmed by the huge number of calls. The response will not be fast.
      • Joan 3 mths ago
        Dori, many thanks for the tough job you do!
    • Suit of Flames  •  3 mths ago
      Who's on first, what's on second, who's your supervisor and then...Powell! A huge explosion
    • Kathy  •  Tyler, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      too many people call 911 for ridiculous stuff like not getting their hamburger right or blocking the drive thru at McDonalds these dispatchers get burned out from those kind's of ignorant calls so when something urgent does come along, they have trouble distinguishing it from the real thing. Remember they ARE Civilians, they are not trained law enforcement officers. This is tragic but the real culprit is the idiotic judge who insisted that the kids be allowed to go to their father's house with anyone!!! Supervised visits should have ocurred in a neutral place NOT in this nut jobs house!
      • Bella 3 mths ago
        So what if the dispatcher is "stressed." If he cannot not handle the stress of the idiots that abuse 911, then he has NO business doing this job. He IS highly trained to respond to these situations and he was trained to treat EVERY call as a life-threatening emergency, until proven otherwise. God help YOU if you ever need 911....hope you don't get a dispatcher like this one.
      • China 3 mths ago
        Very well said... And yes, when I was a dispatcher supervisor, we received formal training at the police academy. It may not have been as extensive as an officer, but it was good training. In my state, we were regarded highly. I have a plaque to prove it. This dispatcher did a horrible job. He did not take the call seriously and it hindered progress. I don't care how many crazy calls you get, you handle each one seriously until you find out otherwise.
    • Bella  •  Las Cruces, New Mexico  •  3 mths ago
      The attitude and rudeness of this dispatcher are absolutely without excuse. I know there is rampant misuse of 911 but a properly trained and responsible dispatcher treats ALL calls as an emergency until proven otherwise. This person should be severely discipined, with part of the punishment being immediate termination. He very well may have costs these two young boys their lives. I could care less about the father, but these kids deserved better. I hope he lives with the guilt for a very long time. Perhaps help could not have gotten to the house in time, but we'll never know now.
      • Michael 3 mths ago
        what in the transcript are you seeing that i'm not? in hindsight, yeah...this was a life-threatening situation. BUT - we don't have ESP....that's why it's called hindsight. the dispatcher seems to have done a fair job. not stellar...but not "without excuse" as you say.
    • Smartaluck  •  3 mths ago
      911 operators always sound like idiots in released calls. Asking the dumbest questions!
      • The Crossing Guard 3 mths ago
        Where I live, a guy called in a beating in progress. The operator couldn't figure out what the name of the street was, despite the fact it's a heavily traveled main thoroughfare.
      • LYNN 3 mths ago
        I personally dont think. Whats the address and who is in the house are dumb questions...When you're dealing with people who are in an emotional state it can be EXTREMELY difficult to get info. Also background information is very helpful.
    • Forget Power Nissan  •  3 mths ago
      Could there possibly a MORE URGENT CALL FOR HELP....I don't think so! The operator should be fired immediately and go to work a Best Buy where he belongs!
    • burglar  •  Naples, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      Let's blame the dispatcher, who has no idea who is really on the phone, the case worker could have reported a fire, that would have generated a quick response.
      It's not fair to blame the worker, they could not have known the gravity of the situation.
    • LYNN  •  3 mths ago
      Here's the thing. When the social worker showed up. It WASNT a life threatening emergency. The dispatcher is not there, can only go by the social worker's feeling that something may happen. EVERYBODY thinks they have an emergency! And thats not the only call that the dispatcher was working on Im sure. They have to dispatch units as they become available. Who's to say the officers werent working a bank holdup or a shooting at the time...?? Sure when the gas smell started..THEN its an emergency! This is DEFINITELY not the dispatcher's fault one iota!!! This is Mr. Powell's fault!!!
    • capa760  •  3 mths ago
      There would not be anyone able to stop this evil man. He would have done it anyway, if the police and fire department were parked outside. I hope that any wife/mother living in a threatening atmosphere as Susan Powell's, would recognize the danger and find an agency and professional who would plan her and her children's escape to a save location, untraceable to her tormentor. Hopefully both names are on the bank account, and she can withdraw half (tempted to take all-don't) to survive, with help from the agency.
    • DMK  •  Spring, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      I agree the attitude of the dispatcher there is no excuse. Instead of questioning the situation as they did, when the caller said I smell a strong order of GAS, hmmm seems to me the dispatcher response should have been, Mam get away from the house as fast as possible, I have emergency units in route, please stay on the line. Their questioning who is your supervisor, is not relevant at all to the situation. I know dispatcher who work 12 - 20 hour shifts. They would be fired if they handled a call in this manner. There is no excuse for playing God with a human life. Their line of questioning I believe is the issue. In my opinion it shows the incompetence of the dispatcher and their ego took over in this situation. I do believe the police and firefighters would know what to do when there is a strong smell of gas present, they would know how to respond. The key word is GAS
    • George  •  New York, New York  •  3 mths ago
      Stop the blame game here....the one at fault here is Josh Powell, not the dispatcher or anyone else. Even if the police had arrived sooner, they most likely would have been standing right beside the social worker....at the front door....when the house blew up. Some people watch way too many cop shows on TV....the police cannot come and simply kick in a door because a non-custodial parent has temporarily locked the social worker out....they would have been at the door trying to negotiate with Mr. Powell. And this was absolutely NOT a life or death situation, from anything that was evident, until the explosion occurred. Custodial battles happen every day, and that does not mean that the children are in immediate danger. You simply SAYING that you fear for someone's safety, does not make it so....you have to be able to articulate to the police exactly WHY and HOW you come to believe that those children were in IMMEDIATE DANGER, something the social worker could not do because even she never anticipated Powell doing what he did.
    • Francine  •  3 mths ago
      The social worker is to be commended for her foresight and swift action in this matter and, although she was clearly stressed, there was nothing vital omitted from her 911 plea for immediate assistance---the male dispatcher simply heard a 'hysterical woman' and accordingly dismissed her concerns as such. He should, therefore, be fired and held accountable to some degree for the deaths of those two boys. She did her job. He refused to do his out of prejudice.
    • Carlos C  •  Huntington Beach, California  •  3 mths ago
      I challenge anybody who thinks they could have done better to: 1) try to get hired on for the job at a 911 desk and 2) work at least one full 8 hour day answering the calls there if you can get hired. You will learn how quickly that the system is abused and how little critical required information is usually passed on by the caller. The GPS triangulation system gives a return to the closest cell tower, not the actual location of the caller. The 911 personal do not have instant criminal background history to every resident in their jurisdiction. That is pure TV fiction. Yesthere were shortcomings in this incident. But unless Deputies had been there at the moment when the kids ran inside and the social worker was locked out, they could not have booted the door in time to save those kids.
    • Rick  •  3 mths ago
      The social worker should have been escorted with a 2 sheriff under the circumstance of Josh
    • Rick  •  3 mths ago
      This meeting should not have taken place at Josh home and with only a social worker are you kidding. Follow the timeline and you will discover that Josh was pushed over the edge by guilt and being caught in a lie. People are so dumb. You should all be so proud of yourself.
    • Rick  •  3 mths ago
      When seconds count. Train monkeys to push the red button, they will do a better job.
    • L K  •  Detroit, Michigan  •  3 mths ago
      This could not have been prevented. Large 911 systems get huge numbers of nonsense calls, and the dispatchers need to ask questions to filter out the non-emergencies. Blame the idiots who call in with trivial problems.
    • Andrew M  •  Warren, Pennsylvania  •  3 mths ago
      Typical 911 dispatcher.
    • Karen  •  3 mths ago
      ...perhaps it was divine intervention......more ppl could have gotten exploded ......he was gonna do what he was gonna do no matter what
    • Gwen  •  3 mths ago
      More people would have been killed had they stormed the house. Awful tragedy for those boys and those left who loved them.
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