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    The killing of Iran's nuclear scientists: 'Terrorism we support'?

    For the fourth time in two years, assassins hit an Iranian nuclear expert. Is this unpardonable terrorism, or part of a smart, targeted war?

    An Iranian scientist from the Natanz uranium enrichment facility was killed Wednesday by a bomber on a motorcycle who attached a "magnetized explosive device" to the scientist's car. Tehran blamed the assassination — the fourth such attack in two years — on Israel and the U.S., which is tightening sanctions to force Iran to halt its nuclear program. The Obama administration condemned the killing of the scientist — Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, 32 — and said the U.S. had nothing to do with it. But GOP presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich has said we should be "taking out their scientists." Should such killings, in a sense, be welcomed if they help prevent a belligerent Iran from building nuclear weapons, and potentially destroying many more human lives?

    Killing civilians is never acceptable. This is terrorism, pure and simple: The victim of this assassination was a civilian, says Andrew Sullivan at The Atlantic. And there's a word for the killing of a civilian on another country's soil: Terrorism. If, as many believe, this was the work of Israel's intelligence service, it's almost certain that we got word ahead of time. So if you're applauding this murder, ask yourself what the U.S. would do "if another country started placing car bombs on U.S. soil to kill American scientists."
    "The terrorism we support"

    By starting this war, Iran provoked the killings: The effort to stop Iran's nuclear program is a war, and, for the U.S. and Israel, "it's not a war of choice," says Amir Oren in Israel's Haaretz. If those countries were to sit back and allow Iran to build its first atomic bomb "tensions in the Middle East would intensify to an intolerable level." Whoever killed Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan was sending Iran's leaders the message that, until they relent, nobody in their nuclear program is safe. Now, at least, they will "do some soul-searching."
    "Assassins of nuclear scientists are sending a double message to Iran"

    These assassinations might make matters worse: Soul-searching? Don't count on it. Whoever is behind these assassinations — Israel, the U.S., Iranian dissidents — might be making a grave mistake, Trita Parsi, president of the National Iranian-American Council, tells CNN. Iranian leaders haven't waved the white flag or scaled back their nuclear ambitions since the wave of assassinations began. "Arguably, the incentive for the Iranians to go forward... has grown, because now they're under such critical threat."
    "Who's killing Iranian scientists?"

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    64 comments

    • pwfisher42  •  Santa Monica, California  •  3 mths ago
      A scientist working to develop nuclear weapons is not an innocent civilian and these targeted attacks are not terrorism. Terrorism is aimed at an entire population. Is it terrorism to attack a synagogue? Yes. Is it terrorism to attack an embassy? No.
    • h2o4ever  •  4 mths ago
      Glad? Not really, but I'm sure not going to lose any sleep over it either.
    • James  •  4 mths ago
      Someone is killing Iran's scientists? Mossad , CIA, take your pick. If you approve of this murder, you approve of the tactics of terrorism.
      • Lorna R 4 mths ago
        No. It's called preventative intervention.
      • James 4 mths ago
        Lorna , none so blind as those who refuse to see
      • Scott L 4 mths ago
        Please! Like this kind of thing hasn't been the stock-in-trade of clandestine services since the beginning of time. The Cold War was FULL of stories like this. It used to be common knowledge that diplomats were almost universally spies. In old Japan, the ninjas were used in EXACTLY this kind of thing. This is nothing new, even for our country, so James, grow up. Iranian nuclear scientists are government employees working on top-secret military projects they are trying to disguise as civilian engineering (and doing a lousy job of it). They are just as much "civilian" targets of terrorism as the scientists of the Manhattan Project were.
    • Sherley  •  Lima, Ohio  •  4 mths ago
      NO!....this mess with Iran started 58 yrs ago with the 1953 Operation Ajax,1982 armed Saddam in the Iraq/Iran War. you reap what you sow!....but we're the "good nation"....
      We live in a great nation...but greed drives a lot of it.....
      • James 4 mths ago
        Wow! , an informed thinker on this thread.A refreshing change from the by Gawd kill'em all knuckle dragging crowd.
      • Martin 4 mths ago
        Sherley,

        I watched the Iran/Iraq war from a RADAR Scope in the 80's. We were bystanders not participants in that war. We did not supply war materials to Iraq, they flew Russian and French Jets, used Russian Tanks, Artillery, Rifles, Ammo...etc..

        We did Sell Iran the jets they flew in that war but had not sold them any parts or munitions since the hostage crisis.

        As for what happened 58 years ago, I think most Iranians today would prefer to live under the Shah over what they have now if given a choice.

        Your statement is full of half-truths and outright lies. No wonder your opinion stinks!
    • StarzChild  •  4 mths ago
      It's a covert war...part of the so-called War On Terror (whateva that means). We can only assume their agents are making similar attempts against our assets around the world.
      Thats why Homeland Security and Intelligence Agencies make the big bucks. They claim to be the best in the world...history will judge whether they lived up to it. In the meantime...
      WAR IS HELL...Hell is hot...it's about to get hotter...!!!
    • StarzChild  •  4 mths ago
      If Intelligence Agencies have absolute proof these scientists are working on the bomb then their deaths are war casualties...if not it is murder and the perpetrators should be brought to justice.
    • SteveH  •  4 mths ago
      It's not terrorism when we do it.
    • DavidJ  •  4 mths ago
      We should certainly be glad it is not our problem. Of course, we don't have much real knowledge of the people leading Iran's nuclear program. But, it would not be too surprising if it is highly dependent on a few key scientists and engineers. It could easily be the case that killing the right ones has much more potential for slowing down Iran's progress towards nuclear weapons than trying to bomb their underground facilities. Of course, the outcome of that approach is highly dependent on knowing who the key people are. No doubt there is a price for adopting assassination as an instrument of national policy. But it is also hard for those on the outside to make reasonable judgements about the choices of those who are faced with a mortal enemy.
    • StarzChild  •  4 mths ago
      Asghar : we get your message...the Iranian people are fantastic human beings. I have several Farsi friends who are just incredible in every way. We in the West have more in common with Iran than with any other nation in the ME excluding Israel. If you two would end your family feud, kiss & make up like true Sons of Abraham, then the world would take a giant step toward lasting peace. Think how dynamic and powerful an Iranian/Israeli alliance would be and what a positive influence on the region that would have.

      Instead we are at the brink...at a 5000 year precipice. What happens next is up to your leadership. The world is arrayed against its plans to obtain nuclear weapons just as Hitler faced a united allied force 60 years ago to stop his quest for world conquest.

      Who is right and who is wrong...??? Now as then, God will decide. As history has shown superior might is no guarantee of military victory. You pray to Allah & His Messenger while we pray to Jehovah and his holy Son. If you insist...you will soon know who is the One True God...so shall we all.
    • RedMike  •  Burbank, Illinois  •  4 mths ago
      This will make a great " Who Done It" in Hollywood. Israel, America, Iranian citizens, or even Ahmadinejad. Maybe Ahmadinejad did it to put pressure on his enemies. Why don't we all just claim it never happened.
    • Heather  •  4 mths ago
      As scary as nuclear proliferation is, no country has the right to tell other countries what they are allowed to do with nuclear technologies... via words, sanctions or assassanations. Not only are these assassinations pointless, as the scientists are easy to replace (as it turns out, this stuff is not that hard and thousands around the world could step in) but they also seem like part of a scheme designed to raise hostilities rather than lower them.

      In this action, the people of the US and "west" do not win. The program will continue and peoples sympathetic to the ideas of independence and sovereignity of all nations will simply view it as another egregious breach. In fact, the regimes of countries stated as sympathetic will become more entrenched as common enemies are found to rally against.

      The Iranian people do not win. Tougher sanctions mean lesser economic stability, but of a sort that hits them, not their leaders, as it will be noted as the fault of other governments. (See attempts to sanction Cuba et al for examples.) Messing with their gaining nuclear power means another set of reasons for lesser food and jobs availability, again providing opps for current govt entrenchment while causing duress among the populace.

      Perhaps it is only, then, the governments and anyone who can make money off a new world war that win. After all, while the peoples will suffer, of the West as well as the Mid East, the governments will grow and there will be ever more opportunities for funneling funds to war mongering war profiteers. The pattern is the same as it has always been, and can only be stopped by the people of the world listening and responding well to the increased flow of information.
      • MARKL 4 mths ago
        two ways to force tyrants out of power; internal and external... when the good people of iran put a bomb up ineedajob's #$%$ then and only then will tensions ease.
      • Robert 4 mths ago
        @Heather; That was a well reasoned post. I may disagree on some points
        but on the whole it was more reasoned than the article itself.
      • Heather 4 mths ago
        @MarkL Interestingly, if you listen to Ahmadinejad's speeches, when he speaks in English so that translation issues are not extant, he is actually fairly well reasoned and not a war mongerer at all. What surprised me in particular was the finding that he was not even really a hate mongerer, except when taking portions of his speeches out of context. It might be true that he should be deposed, but not for the reasons we are force fed by the media... Certainly our recent leaders have done much more to spread divisiveness and death than him, despite the media's representation of him. With that in mind, would you be the first to put a bomb up the bottom of Bush, Obama, the majority of our Congress, the leaders of Haliburton or Monsanto or other war profiteering companies et al? Will you act as you call for the Iranian people's to act, without really understanding their culture or leaders? (I certainly make no claim to fully understanding either, but feel it is important to make the attempt before declaring them more worthy of punishment than ourselves... as I would hope they would do for me or any of mine...)
    • 4rest_Gump  •  4 mths ago
      In this country you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. But on the flip side of this is also "intent"

      Do we trust Iran when they say the uranium enrichment is for peaceful purposes? No we don't and the reason is that we've given them other options than to enrich uranium themselves. A safe alternative that would make it much more complicated for them to create a bomb.

      War is never fair... killing a scientist known to be working on nuclear related work to sub due that work can be called an act of terrorism because that scientist is treated as a casualty of war in the eyes of the opponents doesn't really make it so.

      But if it goes to all out war expect Iran to use civilians as shields etc... which brings us back to war is never fair.

      You never know if there might be something else at hand here... we all know not to long ago there was an uprising against Adminajad and these killings could be made to look like the "west" carrying out these assasinations... not that the west couldn't do it either.

      We know tensions are high and certain factions at large within Iran would probably be very happy if the tensions escalated to all out war and US stepped in to over throw Adminajad. They know tensions are high and are trying to trigger something the easiest way they know how. You can imagine what would happen to them if it was discovered that they did something and not the supposed "west" as being reported in the news.
    • KeithE  •  Palmdale, California  •  4 mths ago
      Oh those Iranians. Soooo clever! Lets kill a possible security risk and then blame it on the west. That will give the rest of the potential defectors something to think about, besides no one would ever suspect us. Everyone will know that the Great Satan is responsible! We are developing nuclear weapons for peaceful purposes only....... but I rant.
    • Patrick F  •  Cranbury, New Jersey  •  4 mths ago
      If Iran is NOT building nuclear weapons (a pretty big if) then these assassinations are wrong on so many levels.

      It is probably the US or Israel, or both, behind this. If they are so convinced that this is necessary, I wish they would share the information with the public.
    • anonymouse  •  4 mths ago
      several years back, when an assassin targeted and killed an abortion doctor attending church services, Keith Olbermann(then at MSNBC) was quick to label the man a terrorist. my reaction at the time was that we should be very careful about expanding the definition of terrorism lest our gov't use it as further justification for removing more of our constitutional freedoms in the name of national security. while i disagree w/olbermann's alarmist reaction to the assassination, i do agree that targeting individuals in foreign countries, whether by car bombs, drone attacks or other covert means, does amount to terrorism. there is no doubt that, should such attacks be carried out on US soil by foreign operatives against americans, the entire country would consider them as terrorist attacks. having said that...i think the US, more than 10 years after 9/11/2001, is still behind the curve in formulating an effective counter-terror policy. n ireland, sri lanka, and spain have dealt w/ terror attacks for decades and slowly but steadily made significant progress in removing the causes of terrorism. the US is still of a mind that military might is the appropriate way to deal w/terrorism, while terrorism has been effective expressly because it circumvents conventional war and conventional diplomacy.
      • CB 4 mths ago
        Terrorism is about making people live in fear. Murder one abortion provider, make hundreds look over their shoulders. How is that not terrorism?
      • anonymouse 4 mths ago
        kill a 7/11 convenience store clerk during a hold-up: is that terrorism against all 7/11 convenience store clerks? be careful how broad a definition you encourage gov't to adopt: your freedoms are as at-risk as those of any potential terrorist(or street thug).
      • anonymouse 4 mths ago
        @CB: people live in fear of violence all over the world, from street gangs to drug cartels to unmanned drone bombings to serial rapists. the places where terror has most successfully been defeated are the places where people learned to control their fear and take appropriate action. fear exists in the world w/or w/o terror and con only be overcome by courage and determination. terror can be dealt with just like any fear, but the solution is not by diminishing the rights of those terrorized in the name of security, and that's what happens when the definition of terror is so broad that it removes the freedoms of the potential victims.
    • Crono141  •  4 mths ago
      Funny, I don't even think it would be a question if the target was hitler's chemical weapons expert during the holocaust. Iran is more crazy and hateful than the nazis were, the just don't have as big a stick as germany had. I applaud anyone who is actively trying to stop them from acquiring that stick.
    • asghar  •  Tehran, Iran  •  4 mths ago
      @main street
      which dictator ?
      do you mean hosni mubarak(Egupt) which were supported by you for 30 years , you are right!
      • Farzad 4 mths ago
        no,he means Khameneyi and Pasdar,great dictator and killer
      • Farzad 4 mths ago
        maybe assad
    • rat  •  Fresno, California  •  4 mths ago
      im happy.
    • Kevin  •  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania  •  4 mths ago
      where's your proof bozo? you don't know who did it either.
    • asghar  •  Tehran, Iran  •  4 mths ago
      @main street
      which dictator ?
      do you mean iran ? you are very wrong !
      all iranian Officials are elected by people :
      " .. head of state and head of government (the president), a legislature (the Majlis), and an "Assembly of Experts" (...........which elects the Supreme Leader..................)"....
      where is your claimed dictatorship ?