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    America's big wealth gap: Is it good, bad, or irrelevant?

    The gap between rich and poor is at its widest since the Roaring '20s. Obama complains that it's unfair, but a growing chorus of economists and sociologists say it's worse than that.

    Not since the Roaring '20s has the income gap between rich and poor been as wide as it is today in America – a development that has set politicians, various advocates, and average citizens debating if and why it matters.

    President Obama, revving up for a reelection campaign, decries the wealth gap as fundamentally unfair. It's one reason his economic strategy calls for higher taxes on the wealthy.

    On the Republican side, presidential hopeful Mitt Romney is seeking to fend off criticism that his wealth and some of his public comments show him to be out of touch with Main Street America. Those rising to his defense celebrate his wealth as just reward for hard work and business savvy – the very qualities the nation itself needs, they say, to get the economy going again.

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    As for the American public, considerable consternation exists from Peoria to Dodge about how pronounced the rich-poor gap has become. In a recent Christian Science Monitor/TIPP poll, 3 in 4 US adults describe themselves as "concerned" about it, and 51 percent say they believe that reducing income inequality would make the economy and society better off.

    Are they right to be concerned? Is there something inherently dangerous – to economic health or to the fabric of society – when the income gap gets this wide? Economists have studied such questions for decades, and today the preponderance of evidence tilts toward the view that extreme inequality does hinder, to some debatable degree, economic strength and social stability.

    "The view that income inequality harms growth – or that improved equality can help sustain growth – has become more widely held in recent years," World Bank economist Branko Milanovic said in a September report. Not that long ago "the reverse position – that inequality is good for growth – held sway among economists."

    That conclusion is by no means settled, and this article will lay out the best arguments of both sides – some of those arguments voiced by ordinary Americans. But what now seems established is that income disparity has risen in recent years within the United States, as well as within other economically advanced nations.

    An overview for the US: Over the past three decades, average incomes have grown for typical households at all parts of the earnings scale, but earnings have truly soared for the rich.

    Average income for a household in the top 1 percent has more than tripled, from $350,000 in 1979 to $1.3 million in 2007, according to data tracked by Lane Kenworthy, a University of Arizona sociologist drawing on numbers crunched by the Congressional Budget Office. These figures are adjusted for inflation and look at household income after taxes and any transfer payments from the government.

    By comparison during those three decades, households in the middle 60 percent saw average real income go from $44,000 to $57,000. For the bottom 20 percent, this gauge shows average household income rising from $15,500 to $17,500.

    President Obama has pitched a "fair share" approach to the economy as a central part of his re-election campaign. In his newly released budget, the president proposes, for example, that investment dividends be taxed at the same rate as wage income for high earners.  And he argues that, down the road, one principle of tax-code reform should be that the very rich pay at least 30 percent of their income in federal taxes.  

    The US tax code is an inevitable part of any public debate over issues related to inequality and economic fairness. But economists say past tax policies, which have allowed the wealthy to keep more of their income, aren't the only reason that income gaps have widened.

    Other factors that may be at play include an increasingly high-tech economy, which has put a premium on skills and education. Also, whether because of market forces or the policy climate, a rising share of national income has been going to corporations (as profits), while the portion that goes to pay workers has declined. That shift benefits owners of corporate stock.

    So long as a boom time kept most people's financial fortunes on the rise, few jumped up and down over the greater concentration of wealth in fewer hands. But the hard times that ensued after the financial system's near-collapse in 2008 have changed that. It's much more top of mind now that the share of people officially deemed to be living in poverty has jumped from about 12.5 percent to 15 percent since 2007, wages are barely rising for the middle class, and many millions more people are out of work.

    America has seen the income gap widen before. Often, when class differences moved to center stage, the result has been a political realignment that tilted power and policy at least modestly away from the rich and big business. The 1930s and, before that, the Progressive Era in the early 1900s are prime examples.

    But for every individual who is wringing his or her hands over income inequality, there's someone who sees it as the American way.

    "You'll make money according to what you've done in life," and according to your education and skills, says Paula Alibrandi, who works as an executive assistant in Boston. "That's only right."

    Here's a look at the key arguments:

    It's bad for the economy

    Nick Hanauer isn't the person you'd expect to be vocal in the fight against inequality. He does venture capital deals as a founder of the firm Second Avenue Partners in Seattle. He's part of that top 1 percent, not one of the so-called 99 percenters involved in various "Occupy" protests in recent months.

    But as he sees it, the widening of inequality has created an unhealthy economy, even for people like him.

    "If you have a society where the people at the very tippy top accumulate all of the resources, you choke the economy to death," he says.

    Mr. Hanauer says that investors and entrepreneurs like himself play an important role in job creation, but that the ability of the middle class to buy products is even more crucial.

    "Steve Jobs didn't launch the iPhone in Bangladesh or the Congo. The iPhone is nothing without millions of people who can afford to buy it," says Hanauer, who has recently co-authored a political-economy book called "Gardens of Democracy."

    Many economists, to greater or lesser extents, support Hanauer's general point: that a more balanced distribution of income would probably help economic growth.

    If the share of earnings going toward pay for labor (as opposed to corporate profits) had held constant in recent years, then overall activity in the economy "would be a bit higher than it is now," says Nigel Gault, chief US economist at the forecasting firm IHS Global Insight in Lexington, Mass.

    Inequality may be affecting growth in other ways, Mr. Gault adds. Disparities of income can mean that people lose faith that there's a fair economic playing field and that hard work will pay off. It can also mean that millions of people lack access to a good education. To the degree that these negative forces are operating, America is failing to tap the potential of its "human capital."

    Wesley Pontjour, who is getting a degree in business management, will soon be testing the market for his own human capital. The resident of Cambridge, Mass., says he's optimistic that he'll find work when he graduates in May.

    At the same time, he sees ways that inequality may be hindering the economy.

    "Obama's address the other night, that was big," Mr. Pontjour says. "He spoke about being fair and how to ... get the economy flowing again."

    The definition of "fair" may depend on individual vantage points, Pontjour allows. But he says that better schools, for instance, might make a difference for people who grow up in lower-income neighborhoods, as he did.

    Mr. Milanovic of the World Bank sees this point about education as an important reason that more economists are viewing inequality as bad for growth. "When physical capital mattered most, savings and investments were key," he writes. "[Now] widespread education has become the secret to growth. And broadly accessible education is difficult to achieve unless a society has a relatively even income distribution."

    It's bad for US society and politics

    To Ben Guaraldi, who teaches computer programming in Cambridge, Mass., America's income divide hits home first and foremost in the political system, as wealthy people and corporations wield an outsize amount of power.

    "Some of them aren't really aware of the effects" of the policies they push for, he says. To Mr. Guaraldi, a registered independent, the unfavorable results may include a weaker economy and poorer policies on other fronts, as politicians feel pressure to serve the interests of their financial backers. He, for one, hopes to see stronger government action to confront the threat of climate change.

    Many Americans, even ones with very different political leanings, echo that view about money in politics. The rising power of corporations and the rich, coupled with the weak economy, has coincided with an erosion of public trust in governing institutions like Congress and the Federal Reserve.

    Some thinkers even say America's very survival is at risk, if steps aren't taken to restrain the widening income divisions. Bruce Judson of the Yale Entrepreneurial Institute has estimated that the US is partway down a path of economic polarization that, based on patterns seen throughout history, could lead the country toward dissolution and revolution. He's not predicting that outcome, but asserts that the scenario is not as far-fetched as it may sound.

    Some experts who study inequality argue that it has contributed to a range of damaging social problems. British scholar Richard Wilkinson has pointed to strong correlations between the level of inequality in advanced nations and certain health problems, a decline in trust of others, and higher rates of imprisonment.

    It's not holding America back

    For most Americans, the big economic priority for government to address is job growth. And among people who care about that, many aren't sure if measures aimed at reducing inequality will help.

    Luis Tello, a young Bostonian who works in network marketing, says the economy will do better if people "think abundantly," which will help them see opportunities, rather than focus on who is getting how much.

    His theme is similar to what Rabbi Aryeh Spero argued in a recent column for The Wall Street Journal: that US prosperity is built on biblical teachings that enshrine personal property as well as compassion, and that make envy a sin.

    A range of other arguments surface for why Americans shouldn't focus too much on inequality.

    Some economists argue that misguided efforts to fix it, such as with programs that end up expanding the welfare state, might slow long-term growth.

    Others, while saying inequality matters for society, don't believe it's holding back job growth in a significant way. "It's a bad thing, but is it [a] linchpin for economic success?" asks Stephen Rose, a Georgetown University economist who has studied the health of the middle class. "I don't think this [inequality] means we can never have a low unemployment rate again."

    Skeptics also question whether inequality is a threat to political and social stability. American democracy, after all, has shown resilience despite ups and downs of inequality in the past. And some researchers say the great class divide is not really about income distribution.

    On the political right, author Charles Murray has stirred this discussion with a new book called "Coming Apart." He sees a sharply divided America, with a faltering working class and an out-of-touch elite, but argues that the core issues are all about social behaviors such as churchgoing and community involvement.

    Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum emphasizes some similar themes. For example, he argues that the economy will get back to full strength only if Americans can revive their family-and-community ethic, as well as their work ethic.

    Where many free-market advocates emphasize the virtues of individualism, Mr. Santorum has hammered a different message on the campaign trail: "America is about more than just you. America's about service and sacrifice ... making a contribution to the greater good." Talking with voters in Iowa, he said, "When the family breaks down, America doesn't survive."

    Santorum's words are just one of the reminders, from left and right, that the income gap is just part of a larger web of economic and social challenges. Even so, it promises to remain a source of hot debate between now and the November election.

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    • Bustersmycat  •  3 mths ago
      There is nothing wrong with people being rewarded for hard work or a good idea, or for having better skills. It is more a question of the LEVEL of the reward for those things. Is it right for a company officer to earn tens or hundreds of millions per year while layoffs or wage freezes are occurring within the working class of the company? I personally think that excessive reward is the problem, not the idea of reward for merit itself. Does a large corporate CEO really contribute 10,000 times more to society than the factory worker in that same companY?
      • KevinH 3 mths ago
        No, but so long as the compensation committees on corporate boards are made up of other CEO's, they are going to line each others pockets. It's the old "you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" philosophy. And the real problem is that shareholders are either too stupid or inept to vote the executives out. And so the gravy train for the top 1% goes on and on while the majority get screwed with stagnant pay and less job opportunities.
      • kerrdog 3 mths ago
        So stock holders are stupid are they Kevin? Wish you had some investments do you? Try growing an actual brain and maybe you can think of a way to get rich.
      • concerned citizen 3 mths ago
        Kerrdog, not everyone is going to be smart enough to get rich, but that doesnt mean that they should be dirt poor either. Is it better for the economy to have 100 people with $10,000 to spend or 1 person with $1,000,000 to spend? That's why our economy is stagnant. I don't think you really have any successful investments, if you did you wouldn't be on this board insulting people you would probably be working your portfolio.
    • Army Vet  •  3 mths ago
      3 years after her death, I still make pmts on a credit card I used to bury my wife. How many Repubs ever have to deal with this kind of reality?
      • knaug60 3 mths ago
        Sorry to hear this for several reasons.
      • James Dogue 3 mths ago
        More than you'd like to believe. How many democrats are millionaires? As many as republicans.
    • Debbie  •  Everett, Washington  •  3 mths ago
      It is about a fair days pay, for a fair days work ! And the greedy people who do not want to pay it !
      • Nick 3 mths ago
        Ok, who gets to say what's 'fair'? Obamma and gang would do that for you.
      • Debbie 3 mths ago
        Democrats are the only ones who ever raise the minimum wage, it needs to be raised again and hedged to inflation. Republicans do not believe in a minimum wage.
      • matt m 3 mths ago
        Why does the government get to say what amount of money I'm allowed to accept for a job?
    • Eric1  •  3 mths ago
      The problem with these 'calculations' is that they do not take into account inflation. nce that is put into the mix, you will find that middle and low-income earners have actually found their incomes REDUCED in the time frames noted.
      • v 3 mths ago
        The income comparison numbers do take inflation into account, but it is government-approved-and-reported inflation rates, not the real inflation rates. The actual inflation rate appears to be higher than what the government has reported, and the difference is increasing as pressure is put on the government to reduce inflation-adjusted cost of living increases by mis-reporting the inflation rate.
      • Bustersmycat 3 mths ago
        yes, the figures did not adjust for inflation, but that really wasn't the object of the discussion anyway.
      • knaug60 3 mths ago
        Consider that in 1975, the average corporate CEO earned some 25 times the average worker wage. Now the number is more like 400 times average. This particular measure would seem to be independent of inflation. Yet it still shows that by many measures there is a huge migration of wealth into the hands of a very few.
    • treesrme  •  Costa Mesa, California  •  3 mths ago
      rent used to be one third of your income.. rent has increased at least 30% probably more in the last few years.. it is now half of our income.. our reality is not their reality.. their only reality is the almighty dollar.. oh and apparently boobs.
      • Alan 3 mths ago
        Woo-hoo...boobs!!!!
      • Rob 3 mths ago
        Google and watch these three youtube documentaries:
        "Power of Nightmares" - foreign policy truth BBC documentary
        "Money as Debt" - clearly explains who controls the money and power
        Google "Michael Scheuer Iran" - ex-CIA head Bin Laden unit explains our foreign policy and fear of Iran
        Google and watch "Predictions in Due Time"
    • Alex  •  Denver, Colorado  •  3 mths ago
      Consequence of 2% of people controlling most of the nation wealth:
      - Extra rich influencing politicians and policies with their money, so the government would not be serving the nation as a whole, but only the ones who can pay for political campaigns and buy lobbyists (happening today)
      - Extra rich enslaving the rest of the populous by their money and power to work harder and harder for less and less compensation (happening today)
      - Extra rich buying public media and hence the public opinion and making the masses to believe it is in their best interest to make the rich even richer (Does the term "job creators" sound familiar?)
      - Extra rich manipulating the public opinion into believing that they are poor as a result of their own fault, not as a result of rich having accumulated all the wealth and not much is left for the rest ("if you are poor, its your own fault")
      - Extra rich manipulating national foreign policies, so wars will be waged and conflicts will be ignited which ultimately benefits them (Haliburtons of the world) while the masses are supposed to fight these wars sacrificing their lives and carry the weight of its financial costs (Iraq, Afghanistan, ....., and soon Iran)
      - Extra rich controling every avenue to make sure their club remains as exclusive as possible and common man would not have a shot at it, no matter how hard he tries and how smart he is
      - Extra rich manipulating the policies to make sure they control natura resources, laws, labor force, .... and in summay every thing that belongs to the public would be under their finger tips at the end
      - Extra rich manipulating the system so they can freely do whatever they want with no consequences or regulation ("eliminiate regulation")
      - Extra rich starting to truely believe that they are hand picked by God to be served by the masses and are superior than every body else, and it is just natural that 98% have to suffer so they can swim in money and live a fairy tale life.
    • Aaron Clark  •  Kaiserslautern, Germany  •  3 mths ago
      The consequences of all this #$%$ is that there are people living in poverty in the United States and they keep getting poorer. They go without food, heat, electric, and water at sometimes because they don't get enough from the government when the adults get laid off of work. I speak from experience when I had to heat with wood heat, the only way that we had a roof over our heads was because my step father worked on the land lords farm land most of time to just pay on one months rent. We spent two months with out electricity cause the 300 that my step father got from being laid off went to food cause we only was receiving 180 in food stamps. The house that we stayed in had holes big enough for a cat to crawl through to get to our food.
    • Debbie  •  Everett, Washington  •  3 mths ago
      When tax rates were 70% on profits, companies invested in their companies and helped them grow....now they do not invest in them or workers.
    • THX-1138  •  3 mths ago
      The first point to make would be an understanding in American History. Whether or not you agree with the principals, this is historical fact like it or not: During the American Revolution and band of people collectively known as the Founding Fathers, made a decision to fight against the British Colonial rule in order to create a free nation that is known as the United States of America. This free nation was built upon the basic principals of Liberal thought and Republicanism. Of course today's definitions of Liberal, as distorted, manipulated and used as political weapons of stereotyping and dividing, are not quite the same as they were more than 250 years ago when John Locke's 1690 Treatises on Government started the trend of British liberal thinkers. This liberal thinking resulted increating two ideologically separate political groupings in the British Parliament known as the Tories and the Whigs. The Tories were the defenders of the Crown and the established Anglican Church, while the Whigs drew their inspiration from the 1688 Revolution, in which the circumscription of the monarchy's role was finally established through the overthrow of James II and William III. During the American Revolution we saw the Tories, who were loyalists to the Crown in England and opposed the creation of a Free America, and thus became enemies and traitors to America, and the Whigs, who were American Patriots and embraced a more popular agenda, in the form of religious toleration, and electoral and parliamentary reform which would widen the electorate and redistribute parliamentary seats, as the necessary means to reflect the changes in the distribution and wealth of the population which had followed the Industrial Revolution. The New American Patriots, formerly the Whigs, whose political focus was Republicanism, which focused on inalienable rights, liberty, supporting an activist government to promote the common good, rejecting inherited political power, expecting citizens to be independent in their performance of civic duties, vilifying corruption and thoroughly opposing the concentration of power and wealth, instead advocating and working toward the distribution of power into the maximum number of hands. These essential criteria of Republicanism should be noted carefully, especially to those who center their political beliefs on a perceived restoration of the U.S. Constitution, as it was the very fabric in which the Constitution was written. Lets quickly reexamine one point, "thoroughly opposing the concentration of power and wealth, instead advocating and working toward the distribution of power into the maximum number of hands." Every Revolutionary American held this ideal in the highest regard and to believe or advocate differently was simply "Un-American" and would have been defined as being just another Torry, which was treasonous to America. This historical understanding has very little bearing on the "Conservative" vs. "Liberal" conflict in America today and has everything to do with being an American and supporting the ideals that created this nation. I hope this historical understanding will help re-energize American Citizens to better define their political motivations and alignment and help lessen the crippling divide we see today. As American has been the dominating global power and could be seen as a modern Empire, it would do well to understand that ALL Empires in history have crumbed and been destroyed from the inside, laid to waste by bitter ideological division among it's own people. Perhaps the say is true, those who do not know or understand history are doomed to repeat it, since most of today's irrationally defined Liberals and Conservatives, have forgotten the foundation of this nation that make them American in the first place.
    • Ocho Uno  •  3 mths ago
      The rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer. Sooner or later, something's got to give.
    • Richard  •  Melbourne, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      Don't cha just hate it when a GOP Governor comes in and lays off tens of thousands of Government workers to allow them to give tax breaks to their business buddies? Bummer; huh?
    • Richard  •  Melbourne, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      I don't mind if rich folks get rich through hard work and Imagination; but when they buy Congressfolk to buy changes to the rules that allow them to legally steal what is ours......
    • Theydontgetit  •  3 mths ago
      The steady decline in the Middle Class spending power is what is dragging this country's economy downhill. The wealthy alone do not spend enough to fuel the entire U. S. Economy. When the average Joe cannot afford much beyond the bare minimum, then the only businesses who will succeed are dollar stores and discount stores like Wal-Mart.
    • RikH  •  Tampa, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      Science has proven that even dogs have a sense of fairness. Pairs of dogs were trained to do a task that resulted in reward (food-treat) and each could see what the other got. When one was rewarded significantly less; that dog completely lost interest in the task, and refused to perform even when hungry. The only discernable difference from humans was that the highly rewarded dog didn't rub the other one's nose in it.
    • For once and for all  •  3 mths ago
      So a rabbi thinks that private property, inequality, and the accumulation of excessive individual wealth derive from biblical teaching. Perhaps he should try reading all the warning AGAINST the accumulation of excessive material wealth found in both the old and new testaments. What an ignornant, self-serving fool.
    • mydogshakespeare  •  3 mths ago
      It depends on how much influence their money can buy. These days, money = influence; pretty much always has, pretty much always will. Especially when money influences the regulators (i.e., the lawmakers, enforcers, and judges).
    • treesrme  •  Costa Mesa, California  •  3 mths ago
      basic accounting.. how do you save money when the banks give you 3% interest on your savings and charge you 15% interest on the money you borrow or pay on credit cards? the costs of every single necessity and everything that the law says we must have has at least tripled, and fees til the cows jump over the moon, getting ripped off at the pump and the stores, helpful vultures, and then look at the wages.. please tell me that all the super intelligence in washington dc understand this simple equation.. the numbers can not possibly add up.. what the hell did they think was going to happen.. now they want us to believe they care about us and want to fix this.. lies,, they do not give a rats #$%$ about us.. they most likely hate us.. i am not feeling any love from dc.. nothin.. can't imagine what scam they will come up with next..
    • Richard  •  Melbourne, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      And don't cha just hate it when one news network harps 24/7 that Government Workers who supply needed services to all of us are non-Productive? Lay-'em off; who cares!
    • Richard  •  Melbourne, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      Family values and work ethics are great! Gotta luv 'em! Now....if there were actual jobs....
    • MikeyPooh  •  Surfside, California  •  3 mths ago
      the pinnacle of income equality was everyone making nothing when we were cavemen. although even then one cavemen could make a nicer axe than another and he'd be jealous. the entire point of technology is that it provides leverage to do more with less so that we have more left over for everything else. an inescapable byproduct of technology is income discrepancy.
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