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    Anger grows at Egypt military in Christian deaths

    CAIRO (AP) — Videos of military armored vehicles plowing through Christian protesters and images of their flattened bodies are fueling rage against the ruling army generals, even beyond Egypt's Christian community. Activists accused the military of fomenting sectarian hatred as a way to end protests and halt criticism.

    Anger was also turning on state television, blamed for inciting attacks on Coptic Christians as the military crushed a Christian protest late Sunday, leaving 26 dead in the worst violence since the February fall of Hosni Mubarak.

    The bloodshed was seen by many activists as a turning point in Egypt's already chaotic transition: the deadliest use of force against protesters by the military, which has touted itself as the "protector of the revolution." Criticism has been mounting that the military, which took power after Mubarak's ouster, has adopted the same tactics as the former regime and has been slow to bring real change.

    The repercussions began to hit the interim civilian government. Finance Minister Hazem El-Beblawi handed in his resignation over the government's handling of Sunday's protest. El-Beblawi, who is also deputy prime minister, effectively told Prime Minister Essam Sharaf that "he can't work like this," said an aide to the minister who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

    Christians vented their fury at the overnight funeral at the Coptic Christian Cathedral for 17 of the at least 21 Christians killed in the army attack.

    Prayers were interrupted by chants of "Down with military rule" and "The people want to topple the field marshal," — a reference to Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi, who heads the ruling military council. No state official or military official were present at the funeral.

    Egypt's Christians, who represent about 10 percent of the 85 million people in this Muslim-majority nation, have long complained that they are second-class citizens. In recent years, increasingly influential ultraconservative Muslims, known as Salafis, have spread rhetoric that Christians are trying to take over, protesting against the building of churches and accusing Christians of hoarding stocks of weapons. Violence against Christians, the majority of whom belong to the orthodox Coptic Church, has mounted since the fall of Mubarak as state control has loosened.

    Bahy Eldeen Hassan, head of the Cairo Institute for Human Rights Studies, said the military may have counted on sectarian sentiment against Christians to allow it to crush the protest and send a signal that it will no longer tolerate civil unrest and criticism.

    "The message is to the whole society, not to Christians in particular. I believe this is all in preparation with wider confrontation," Hassan said. "I am afraid they used the Coptic Christians exploiting sectarianism and knowing that Christians will receive less sharper response from the public," he added.

    Sunday night's confrontation began when thousands of Coptic Christians marched to the state television building, located on a main boulevard along the Nile, to stage a sit-in protesting a recent attack on a church in southern Egypt.

    Witnesses said the gathering was peaceful until it was attacked. Video footage showed the crowd chanting slogans until riot police and soldiers descended on them.

    In the ensuing mayhem, footage shows armored military vehicles barreling through the crowd back and forth at high speeds. From the back of one vehicle, a soldier opens fire wildly on protesters. The footage — both amateur video posted on YouTube and media video — showed bodies with crushed heads or bleeding limbs.

    Young Christian Vivian Magdi, whose fiance was killed when an armored vehicle ran him over, gave an account to Egyptian private network ON TV.

    "His body was in the middle of the wheels. His legs were torn. His head hit the pavement, breaking his skull," she said. "Soldiers gathered around us and started to beat him up," a tearful Magdi said. "I begged them to leave him. He is not breathing," she said. "Then a soldier with a red cap came, shouting, cursing and hitting me with a stick then tried to beat him up. I threw my body on him (her fiance) ... and the soldier said to me: 'You infidel, why are you here?'"

    During the bloodshed, a state TV presenter urged "honest Egyptians" to go protect the army, saying troops were under attack from the Christian protesters. A scroll on their report read, "Coptic protesters are pelting soldiers with stones and Molotov cocktails," as presenter Rasha Magdi reported three soldiers killed. "By whose hands? Not the Israelis, not the enemy, but by the hands of the sons of the nation," she said. Its continual coverage over the hours made little or no mention of protesters killed.

    Soon, bands of young Muslim men also descended on the scene, armed with sticks, swords, firebombs and firearms, and clashed with the stone-throwing Christians.

    Forensic reports for 17 slain protesters released Monday showed they died from being crushed by armored vehicles or from gunshots. Another died from a sword blow to the head. Another body was headless. The military has suggested soldiers were killed, but has not officially confirmed deaths or said how many.

    "The TV was used as the tool for instigating sectarianism and hatred to religion," Hassan said. "This is the first time in the history of the state media to play this role," he added. "The calls on TV fueled violence and increased the number of victims."

    Even after the riot, assailants roamed the streets looking for Christians to beat up. In some cases, they pulled men and women suspected of being Christian out of taxis and private cars and cordoned off a Coptic Hospital where the killed and wounded were taken. Several cars were set on fire and shops were smashed.

    In the days that followed, state TV ran only interviews with purportedly injured army soldiers, who claimed the protesters opened fire, though witnesses denied the protesters had guns.

    A number of producers and staffers on state TV denounced the coverage. "I am embarrassed that I work in the TV. The Egyptian television is calling for a civil war between Christians and Muslims. The Egyptian television proved that it is a slave to whoever is the master," one presenter, Dina Rassmi, said on her Facebook page.

    The military has said nothing about the circumstances of the violence, though the state news agency said it would hold a press conference Wednesday. In a statement Monday, it vowed only to take the "necessary precautions to stabilize security" and use the full weight of the law to prosecute individuals involved in violence, whether by participation or incitement.

    In an apparent response to concerns it will use the violence as an excuse to prolong its rule, the council pledged to make good on its promise to hand over power.

    Amid the turmoil, officials are to start on Wednesday accepting candidates to run in Egypt's first post-Mubarak parliamentary elections, due to begin on Nov. 26.

     

    117 comments

    • true justice  •  7 mths ago
      blah blah blah - bottom line - they want egypt to be 100% muslim - !!!!!
    • yahoouser  •  7 mths ago
      This is the real side of the story that you will never get over here b/c of the biased news reporting by a christian media--- I get live news feeds all day long from Egypt and I get the news straight from friends and family who are actually there, so stop pretending that you "know what you are talking about. Those so called peaceful christian protesters came armed with guns, knives and rocks and attacked the military shooting one officer in the neck killing him instantly, there 12 soldiers killed that day, the military had a right to defend themselves agasint these thugs, but the media here painted a very different spin on the real story making it seem like the muslims were the aggressors.The military is the only law and order this nation has right now. Second, I was there when the so called controversial church was beginning to be builit, they are not above following the law, and if the law says you have to go through the proper govt. channel to get the necessary permits to build then you have to. This was a community center to start with, the govt. had already told them no they could not change it to a church, and they started building it anyway. This is what started the whole thing. Tensions are high in Egypt right now b/c they need to get their new govt, installed and start making reforms in the laws, so security is lax and the "People"(all of them) are taking advantage of it! Stop turning this into a holy war pitting both religions agaisnt the other!
    • Rojo Grande  •  7 mths ago
      The Egyption leaders had a wonderful opportunity to make a real difference in the world. They could have been good honest men. Instead they are just as bad or worse than Mubarak and his cronies. Egypts leaders have brought shame to their family names but money and power to themselves and their friends. Cowards.
    • Robert S  •  7 mths ago
      The religion of peace strikes again.
    • John  •  7 mths ago
      I wonder how long it takes till the Muslims claim this was all part of a Zionist plot?
    • M  •  7 mths ago
      To the idiot Bosinian Muslim, just remember that it was the USA that protected your #$%$ from the Christiains who were being slaughter by your fanatical Muslims from the Middle East
    • Wayne  •  7 mths ago
      The Egyptian people traded in an old lion for young tigers, good luck with that.... I believe this was a diversion from the fact that the military is never going to give up power. Destroy a Coptic Churches make them mad and ask for Muslim thugs to protect the military. Sads me to see the evils of, power, greed and religious fanatics have on a society .
      • Silly Walk 7 mths ago
        Never trust religion, never trust the military.
      • gahitarug O 7 mths ago
        if the military want power over civilian they should have created military junta long
        ago after the revolution.
      • Wayne 7 mths ago
        The reason they didn't was the mob was at full force and they didn't want it to look like a military take over, or they still work for the old lion. The longer the military stays in control the hard it would be for them to let go of power. Besides they want to be looked upon as HEROs, now they will create problems to keep themselves in power.
    • metaldave  •  7 mths ago
      Religion is a cancer on this world and should be abolished
    • bbb3  •  7 mths ago
      So this is the Arib spring? Hate anyone who does not practice Islam? Seems to me this is the same old story. 3 thousand years old. women are slaves male children are given guns, and tought to hate anyone who does not practice Islam. Can anyone tell me how having 13 wife slaves and haveing children who you can not support makes any sence? This happens becouse the kids are hungry and mad. And they are tought its the west who did this to you. The fathers sell there children and agian it is the west's fault. when will these kids wake up and see where the real fault is? I normaly don't get into reliagan. I am a Native American and understand what happens when you are considered a pagan. Very few people today understand the religian We practised. We worshiped nature, and all its creatures. And 1 great spiriate. Or God or jesus or Alla, or what ever name you want to give him or her. I will tell this. America ows its lust for freedom to the Native Americans. We tought them it was worth dying for it. Think about it, all of you jokers. Choose your sides, the time is near.
      • independentbynature 7 mths ago
        Their religion is only 1400 yrs old.Not 3000.
      • BUB 7 mths ago
        The kids will never wake up n shouldnt be asked to Your asking why the children dont turn on their families NOT happening anywhere on this planet and yes the time is near and yes I have already chosen
      • hamilton 7 mths ago
        Bub, get help. quick. Your hate will eat up your soul and body.
    • Wayne  •  7 mths ago
      Today the militray targets Christians, next week one of the other muslim minority groups. It is about power. I say no more of my tax money wasted on these bigots.
    • Concerned  •  7 mths ago
      As a Christian Egyptian/American, I am disappointed no word from the Whilte House or Clinton today. Most of the US funding for Egypt does not really make its way to the average person as most of it goes to the same military that killed scores of Christians two days ago.

      The military has made deals with the Muslim Brotherhood and it shows from the events that harming Christians will not get them into too much trouble as they can misinform the rest of the population that the Christians started it and that the Christians shot at the military first. All that is proving false with many regular Muslims who were witnesses as the scene.

      Moreover, the State media is complicit in the murders as they basically went out of their way to tell people that Christians were attacking the military which inspired a lot of people to go down to confront the Christians unnecessarily.

      Two TV reporters, quit their posts, and gave an account of how the Egyptian TV incited ethnic division and incited violence for the first time ever.

      Is this how US Taxpayer money is used nowadays?
      • Silly Walk 7 mths ago
        Our tax dollars? You want my tax dollar to be used to defends some religious freaks? Never trust religion, never trust the military.
      • Pope Fred 7 mths ago
        The late Dr. Moshin Hakim, a renowned heart transplant surgeon did my first heart bypass surgery in 1991. He was a Coptic Orthodox. He did over 100 heart transplants, then himself died of a massive coronary at age 48. What a tragedy. I feel so sorry for his fellow Coptics. Dr.Hakim was from Egypt.
    • ElvisQ  •  7 mths ago
      Anyone who expected change in Egypt is not paying attention. The country is just like the rest of the world in that men with money run things. To their own advantage of course and for more money. Mubarak wasn't standing there alone. The government was staffed with crooks, cronies, relatives, religious conmen and assorted sadists. Just like about every other government in the world. These goons will gladly give Mubarak to the street but they intend to keep their own positions and power.
      • Silly Walk 7 mths ago
        Never trust religion, never trust the military.
    • We, the People  •  7 mths ago
      And we gave them all our support ....!
      • hamilton 7 mths ago
        We gave our support to the people who cried out for Freedom and Democracy, not to these shadow people in the military.
    • R  •  7 mths ago
      "This is the first time in the history of the state media to play this role,"

      Yeah sure!
    • Jackson  •  7 mths ago
      Egyptian postcard to Mubarak: "Not having a good time. Wish you were here"
    • Kirara  •  7 mths ago
      This has nothing to do with Christians or Muslims. This has to do with the Military deciding that they like the power and trying to find ways to keep it
    • Casey  •  7 mths ago
      The popular human reform in Egypt that has swept away the bad old government, bu6t wait! The military remains, the power brokers remain, the ones that own the wealth remain and now we see the Arab Spring was used by greedy Military to topple a government that was not hash enough or leaning too close to Israel!
      From the great hope to the realization that the fight has not even started in Egypt is very sad.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  7 mths ago
      Someone needs to carve in a tablet some rules and acceptable behaviors. Make it look old and leave near the base of a pyramid. Let them discover it. The only way to change this is if they change it themselves. No amount of bombs or talk will ever bring change. It has to come from within. It's just too bad it has to be like this. As for the military involvement, Tiennamine square 2?
    • M  •  7 mths ago
      ProudMuslimSarah your idiot. A few Christians killed are many. These are Egyptian Christians. They live in their Own country and being killed by their government. They are not Americans or Zionist or Israelis, they are Egyptions. I am calling you idiot, because what they did to the Christians today, will be done to the Suffis, to the Shia, the secular and the uneducated and poor Egyptions. What is done to the least will be done to every one. Learn from history.....prophet Mohammed married one of them, and thir women today are called infidels...your action and your support to these criminals is an insult to your humanity, your religion, and to history
    • A Yahoo! User  •  7 mths ago
      jesus said "behold,I stand at the door and knock".Meaning in the end every person chooses for themselves wether to recieve him.Mohammeds message was "convert or die",which is still being carried out,as you can see acroos the muslim world,today
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