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    Angry over spying, Muslims say: 'Don't call NYPD'

    NEW YORK (AP) — Fed up with a decade of police spying on the innocuous details of the daily lives of Muslims, activists in New York are discouraging people from going directly to the police with their concerns about terrorism, a campaign that is certain to further strain relations between the two groups.

    Muslim community leaders are openly teaching people how to identify police informants, encouraging them to always talk to a lawyer before speaking with the authorities and reminding people already working with law enforcement that they have the right to change their minds. Some members of the community have planned a demonstration for next week.

    Some government officials point to this type of outreach as proof that Muslims aren't cooperating in the fight against terrorism, justifying the aggressive spy tactics, while many in the Muslim community view it as a way to protect themselves from getting snared in a secret police effort to catch terrorists.

    As a result, one of America's largest Muslim communities — in a city that's been attacked twice and targeted more than a dozen times — is caught in a downward spiral of distrust with the nation's largest police department: The New York City Police Department spies on Muslims, which makes them less likely to trust police. That reinforces the belief that the community is secretive and insular, a key reason that current and former NYPD officials cite for spying in the first place.

    The outreach campaign follows an Associated Press investigation that revealed the NYPD had dispatched plainclothes officers to eavesdrop in Muslim communities, often without any evidence of wrongdoing. Restaurants serving Muslims were identified and photographed. Hundreds of mosques were investigated, and dozens were infiltrated. Police used the information to build ethnic databases on daily life inside Muslim neighborhoods.

    Many of these programs were developed with the help of the CIA.

    At a recent "Know Your Rights" session for Brooklyn College students, someone asked why Muslims who don't have anything to hide should avoid talking to police.

    "Most of the time it's a fishing expedition," answered Ramzi Kassem, a law professor at the City University of New York, who supervises an advocacy organization that does such community presentations. "So the safest thing you can do for yourself, your family, and for your community is not to answer."

    New York Republican Rep. Peter King said this kind of reaction from the Muslim community is "disgraceful."

    Muslim groups have previously organized educational programs around the country describing a person's legal rights, such as when they must present identification to a police officer and when they can refuse to answer police questions. A California chapter of a national Muslim organization posted a poster on its website that warned Muslims not to talk to the FBI. The national organization ultimately asked the California branch to remove the poster from the website.

    In New York, the AP stories about the NYPD and internal police documents have outraged some Muslims and provided evidence of tactics that they suspected were being used to watch them all along. These disclosures have intensified the outreach campaigns in New York.

    A recently distributed brochure from an advocacy organization at the City University of New York Law School warns people to be wary when confronted by someone who advocates violence against the U.S., discusses terror organizations, is overly generous or is aggressive in their interactions. The brochure said that person could be a police informant.

    "Be very careful about involving the police," the brochure said. "If the individual is an informant, the police may not do anything ... If the individual is not an informant and you report them, the unintended consequences could be devastating."

    Sweeping skepticism of police affects community relations at all levels of law enforcement on a wide range of issues, not just the NYPD's counterterrorism programs. Interactions with a real terror operative could go unreported to law enforcement out of an assumption that the operative is actually working for the NYPD. A victim of domestic abuse or street violence may not trust the police enough to call for help.

    Retired New York FBI agent Don Borelli said intelligence gathering is key to police work, not just in terrorism cases. But he said it can backfire when people feel their rights are being violated.

    "When they do, these kinds of programs are actually counterproductive, because they undermine trust and drive a wedge between the community and police," said Borelli, now a security consultant with the Soufan Group.

    Kassem said the activists' presentations are intended to "inform citizens about their legal rights when law enforcement comes to their doorstep." He said the goal is not to dissuade citizens from contacting authorities when they have concerns about a crime.

    Since the 2001 terror attacks, the NYPD, city government officials and federal law enforcement have spent years building relationships with the New York Muslim community, assuring many Muslims that they are considered partners in the city's fight against terrorism. But in some cases, community members who have been hailed as partners and even dined with Mayor Michael Bloomberg were secretly followed by the NYPD or worked in mosques that the department had infiltrated, according to secret NYPD documents obtained by the AP.

    "There's not a reference here to the fact that New York is the No. 1 target of Islamic terrorists, that the NYPD and the FBI have protected New York," King said, referring to one of the recent brochures about detecting police informants.

    King, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, has held a series of hearings about the threat of radicalization within American Muslim communities and the level of cooperation members of the community provide to law enforcement. Muslim and civil rights advocacy groups have decried the hearings and pointed to terror cases around the country in which members of the Muslim community helped law enforcement foil plots.

    New York Muslim community groups say they've held dozens of meetings for people who are worried about police surveillance and the NYPD's counterterrorism programs. In one instance, an audience of college students watched as a law student played out the role of a police informant and another played the role of the person the informant was targeting. The goal was to teach people to spot informants.

    "Stay away from these people. That's one of the most powerful things you can do," said Robin Gordon-Leavitt, a member of an advocacy organization Creating Law Enforcement Accountability and Responsibility.

    At another meeting, organized by the Council on American-Islamic Relations, students watched a film of two actors portraying FBI agents talking their way into a young Muslim's home and interrogating him. At the meeting, students were warned not to speak with police even if their parents, imams or Muslim clerics urge them to cooperate.

    "You'll even hear imams saying, 'As long as I obey the law, I have nothing to worry about.' But that's not how it plays out on the ground," said Cyrus McGoldrick, CAIR New York's civil rights manager.

    CAIR has had a strained relationship with law enforcement and was named an unindicted co-conspirator in a terrorist financing case.

    The Muslim community wants an independent commission to investigate all NYPD and CIA operations in the Muslim community.

    ___

    Sullivan reported from Washington. Associated Press writers Matt Apuzzo and Adam Goldman contributed to this report from Washington.

     
    • vic  •  Intercourse, Pennsylvania  •  2 mths ago
      nypd--the department that sodomizes black immigrants (ABner Louima)
    • Trevor  •  4 mths ago
      I hate to interject a note of truth into all this lovely emotion. But according to the FBI crime statistics, about 6% of terrorist acts in the US relate to Islam/Muslims. There are more Puerto Rican terrorists than Muslims. And on a per capita basis, Jewish terrorists are more common still.
    • Timber  •  Rochester, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Where is the muslim against terror movement that would help !
      • None of Your Business 6 mths ago
        The "movement" is called Turkey, Indonesia, most of West Africa and 99.9% of the American Muslim community, but you won't hear about them because they don't kill anybody.
      • Ultimatereality 6 mths ago
        That would make sense, but that would NOT fit in with their agenda, as it is clearly stated in their book, koran, of TOTAL global domination).
      • CallsItLikeItIs 6 mths ago
        It's right here in the U.S., but the media coverage on that goes unseen and unheard, because people never truly want to hear or know what we have to say. That would mean that they might actually have to start acknowledging that we are human beings too, and we, also are victims of terrorist attacks as well, (more than anyone else might I add), and that people might actually have to start treating us with the same respect as they do the rest of the citizens of this country!!
    • J Olsen  •  Newburgh, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Muslims aren't happy in their own countries--they are happy in Europe,America where they play the system.
      • Ev 6 mths ago
        Muslims arent happy anywhere
      • cessch 6 mths ago
        i am white convert to islam born in chicago. i am quite happy. olsen exactly what system is it being played. the same one by poor whites, hispanics and blacks? is that the system? so it good for all but muslims? dummy. ever heard of the indebtness of europe and america not to mention the high un employment? what world u living in?
      • Onlooker 6 mths ago
        And what language you writing? Not English, that's for sure.
    • Lt  •  Columbia, United States  •  6 mths ago
      In all the caterwailing about informants and spying, the mu$lim$ only response is trying to identify the informants and get rid of them. NOTHING I have ever heard or read indicates in the slightest way that the mu$lim$ are doing a single thing to get rid of the terrorists in their midst!
      • Monty 6 mths ago
        same way in Iraq and Afghanistan - they hide the enemy among themselves..
      • snoops 6 mths ago
        its against their religion
      • cessch 6 mths ago
        lt u silly man u failed every comprehension test in school didnt u? re read the article. it contradicts you plainly. never mind i cut n paste it for u. u will miss it a second time no doubt i hope this helps "Muslim and civil rights advocacy groups have decried the hearings and pointed to terror cases around the country in which members of the Muslim community helped law enforcement foil plots."
    • A Yahoo! user  •  Boca Raton, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Congratulations NYPD!!! Keep up the good work.
      • Rocket Man 6 mths ago
        NYPD has done a great job!
      • BOBnMT 6 mths ago
        Some really really stupid people in this world.. yahoo user has got to be a stoner.. go put the pipe away yahoo user and get a grip on reality..
      • Fish 6 mths ago
        Hmmm , I wonder what would you think of NYPD's Job if you were the one to be spied on ..
    • raymond b  •  Mount Prospect, United States  •  6 mths ago
      We now live in a country where the greatest rise in population is by people who support their own before the US. We have seen this with Mexican-American and illegals and now Muslims protecting their own before the USA. This administration is sueing it's own states. SAD
      • NormanM 6 mths ago
        um......you're mississippi is showing...........
      • Born in '42 6 mths ago
        YEP, and keep your head in the sand!!! California will soon be populated by a Mexican[Latin American] majority!!!!!
      • Preybrother 6 mths ago
        M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I !!! What's wrong with Mississippi, you dummy.
    • John  •  6 mths ago
      Imagine what the Taliban would do to you calling yourselves Muslim Americans. If you enjoy and appreciate the value of peace and all that it has to offer, welcome to our country, but you must remember that it was people who called themselves Muslims who attacked this country and murdered innocent people. So we are a little uneasy about anyone else who claims to be.
      If you are here in peace and believe in America then you must not stand to the side and complain but stand up and offer solutions and understanding to those who wish us ALL harm.
    • GW  •  6 mths ago
      The after effects of 911 are all negative from a Muslim stand point. For starters, instead of getting the US out of the Middle East and Western Asia, we are there full force. Now the Muslims are upset because they are not to be trusted, to bad. For their couple of days of dancing in the streets, they will continue to pay for 911 because Americans will not forget. Their best bet is to go back the sand box from which they came. They are not wanted nor needed here.
    • oops  •  Omaha, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Al-Qaeda says it now is going to recruit American born Muslims to terrorize their own country - keep spying please.......
    • ED  •  6 mths ago
      Muslims aren't the only ones being watched. Didn't they just catch some redneck old farts planning on making some bombs. I'm glad the authorities are watching one that is a danger.
    • Cal  •  Saipan, Northern Mariana Islands  •  6 mths ago
      We ought to follow Australia's example. Look up on Net what their feelings are.
    • horsecrazy  •  Nashville, United States  •  6 mths ago
      When you openly invite the enemy to sleep in your back yard and give them freedom , this is what you get.....
    • Jason  •  Beaumont, United States  •  6 mths ago
      They should leave the U.S. in protest. Maybe go to a predominately muslim country and see if the police treat them any better.
    • SLIP  •  6 mths ago
      So far I have never heard any muslim group in America, or anywhere else for that matter, criticizing the actions of radical muslim groups nor have any of them condemned the persecution of members of other faiths in muslim countries of which there are countless occurances. They always have a way of painting themselves as the persecuited group. If they want to be accepted in a free society why haven't they spoken out about these autrocities.
    • donato  •  El Paso, United States  •  6 mths ago
      If they have NOTHING to hide,,,,,,,,why do they care?
    • Jeffrey  •  New York, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Here is the bottom line. Sad but true
      NOT all Muslims are terrorists.But the vast majority of terrorists are Muslim.
    • J  •  6 mths ago
      If the "Muslim community leaders" are not part of the solution then they are part of the problem. They should be urging people to assist law enforcement instead of clamming up. It is clear where their true allegiance lies.
    • Morty  •  Tampa, United States  •  6 mths ago
      It's not like they call the cops anyway. CAIR puts out flyers that tell Muslims not to talk to the authorities. Just like any other gang they have a "no-snitch" rule. Keep spying.
    • Diver  •  6 mths ago
      All you muslims are right. From now on the NYPD will profile WASPS in their attempt to catch the terrorists. Maybe just maybe if 9 out of 10 terrorists weren't muslims things would be different.
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