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    AP Exclusive: NATO may face posible ICC probe

    BRUSSELS (AP) — Some NATO members are worried that their organization may be investigated by the International Criminal Court after its prosecutor said allegations of crimes committed by NATO in Libya would be examined "impartially and independently," according to diplomats accredited to NATO headquarters.

    The diplomats said action to pre-empt a war crimes investigation would likely include an immediate internal legal review of all incidents in which NATO bombing or other actions caused civilian casualties.

    They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

    The alliance has always maintained that its operations in Libya were carried out strictly in keeping with a U.N. Security Council resolution that authorized member states "to take all necessary measures to protect civilians and civilian populated areas under threat of attack" in the North African country.

    NATO leaders have repeatedly hailed the precision with which the mission was carried out, citing the small number of civilian deaths caused by the bombing as evidence of its success.

    Still, in a briefing to the Security Council on Nov. 2, International Criminal Court prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo said "there are allegations of crimes committed by NATO forces (and) these allegations will be examined impartially and independently."

    Moreno-Ocampo did not elaborate further on the accusations against NATO forces, or who was making them. His office is currently focusing on crimes committed by members of the ousted Gadhafi regime and is waiting for a report by a U.N. Commission of Inquiry in Libya, due in March, before deciding whether to proceed with a formal investigation into alleged crimes by NATO.

    NATO has said it was confident its actions were in compliance with international law and that the alliance is not worried by the possibility of a war crimes probe. "In the event we receive a request for information, NATO is prepared to assist in any way it can," said an official who could not be identified under standing rules.

    Officials from the alliance say that between March and October NATO warplanes flew 26,000 sorties, including more than 9,600 strike missions, destroying more than 1,000 tanks, vehicles, and guns, as well as buildings claimed to have housed "command and control" centers. These included facilities such as Moammar Gadhafi's heavily fortified compound in Tripoli, but also residential homes of his supporters — targets which could be considered outside the UN mandate.

    NATO is already involved in a civil suit in Belgium that accuses the alliance of killing 13 civilians in the bombing of a residential compound near Libya's capital, Tripoli. Attorneys for the plaintiffs say that, although NATO and other international organizations enjoy diplomatic immunity in criminal cases, they fall under Belgian jurisdiction in civil suits.

    The immunity applies only to those holding diplomatic status.

    The definition of war crimes, as described by international conventions on the laws of war, includes any destruction of civilian targets not justified by military necessity. It has been invoked in a number of trials dealing with conflicts in Bosnia, Croatia, Kosovo and elsewhere.

    The possibility of an ICC probe is already causing friction within the alliance, officials said. At a meeting last week of NATO ambassadors and their counterparts from partner countries, the Russian ambassador, Dmitry Rogozin, noted a number of airstrikes could be considered potential war crimes. But envoys from some nations that participated in the bombing reacted angrily, describing the comment as "libel."

    A French Rafale fighter-bomber is said to have bombed a convoy of vehicles fleeing Gadhafi's besieged hometown of Sirte last month, resulting in the capture and subsequent killing of the dictator by opposition forces.

    The incident is particularly controversial because during the siege — characterized by massive shelling of Sirte's downtown area by the former rebels — NATO warplanes never struck the attackers. Instead, they attacked a fleeing convoy of civilian vehicles.

    Lt. Gen. Charles Bouchard, the Canadian who commanded the NATO operation, explained that commanders ordered the strikes because they believed the convoy would try to link up with other pockets of pro-Gadhafi resistance in the west.

    While Moreno-Ocampo has said allegations of NATO crimes would be examined, that does not necessarily mean he will open a formal investigation. Depending on the U.N. commission's findings, he could decide there is no need for further investigations or ask judges for authorization to open a formal probe. He could also determine that there are proceedings at the national level that would negate the need for a case to be brought before the ICC, a court of last resort.

    "We are not talking about any specific incident. We are saying, 'Yes, if there are allegations of crimes we will review that,'" Moreno-Ocampo told The Associated Press.

    Currently, nearly 120 states are parties to the ICC. All European NATO members and Canada have accepted its jurisdiction.

    Since NATO is not a signatory to the ICC treaty, it would appear likely that any violations of the conventions on the laws of war would require direct dealings between the court and its member states, and not with NATO as an institution.

    The operation's critics — including Russia, China and the African Union — have argued that NATO misused the limited U.N. resolution as a pretext to promote regime change in Libya. Its daily air raids were instrumental in enabling the ragtag rebel forces to advance on Tripoli and later capture the rest of the country.

    The issue threatens to have far-reaching consequences for future U.N. interventions.

    Russia and China have already vetoed a Security Council resolution that would have imposed sanctions on Syria for its violent crackdown on opposition demonstrators, arguing that NATO could again misuse a U.N. measure to justify months of air strikes.

    "If there were to be evidence that NATO is also involved in activities illegal under international law, something should be done about that," said Nicolas Beger, director of the Amnesty International European Institutions office. "Nobody should be allowed to commit war crimes, and nobody should be able to get away with it."

    He also said there needed to be an impartial probe into Gadhafi's death.

    "If he was captured alive and then killed, that's a war crime. That's clear."

    ___

    Corder reported from The Hague, Netherlands. Mike Corder can be followed at http://www.twitter.com/mikecorder. Slobodan Lekic can be followed on Twitter at http://twitter.com/slekich

     
    • Poe's Crow  •  Warren, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Nobel Peace Price Winner Obama's One Week War and NATO's nine month "enforcement" of a UN-No-Fly-Zone, while focussing on the hunting down some single old dictator, should be investigated. The entire affair stank to high heaven from Day One.
      • Tom 6 mths ago
        Obama's one week war??

        This was a NATO operation.
        A Canadian general ran the operation
        The geberal reported to an American admiral
        The admiral reported to the pentagon
        The pentagon reported to Sec of Defense
        The Sec of Defense reported to Obama.

        Now repeat after me.

        This was a NATO operation…

        Obama’s one week war???
    • moredock  •  6 mths ago
      The ICC is ok for "the west" as long as they go after NATO's enemies. Now they are getting into hot water. Hope they can stand the heat.
      So much innocent blood on the hands of this NATO crew that believes it can intervene anywhere in the world.

      And don't forget, a half year before NATO turned on that "monster" Gadhafi Britain and the United States of America were sending people to Lybia to be tortured.

      Hang em High!
    • observer  •  6 mths ago
      It has become a crazy world.
    • AgabbyWon  •  6 mths ago
      Alot of young forgot what the WARSAW PACT was all about.The UN is nothing but a joke and all about MONEY.
    • Elango  •  6 mths ago
      Al Queda....says....Thank you NATO....May god blast you..!
    • США  •  6 mths ago
      The trio Obama, Sarkozy and Cameron should go to prison for order the killing of civilians in Libya.
    • stop  •  6 mths ago
      It was war against souvereign state which doesn't attack anybody. There are no any difference from Nazi Germany attacks. Protecting civilians is not means war till last man killed against army and loyalists of state . And how NATO explain deaths of children. Anyway ICC is a joke and just joking.
    • khill05  •  Indianapolis, United States  •  6 mths ago
      The ICC is a joke and will go after anyone for anything they want to and most of the time it is a political tool.
    • 2012  •  6 mths ago
      Independent investigations do need to happen,by people not in the pockets of western interests. ICC likely whitewash it. Clear massive amount innocent civilians were killed by the US and friends.
    • Jim  •  6 mths ago
      when the rulers are above the law ,you have tyranny
      • JC 6 mths ago
        Over 5000 years of writte history...some things never change.
      • PuttPutt 6 mths ago
        You already have tyranny.
      • Yehi 6 mths ago
        I don't know who's red arrowed this comment because it''s obviously the truth. Also, as Mussolini said ""Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." These wars are being waged for profit alone.
    • RickC  •  Gloversville, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Guess who runs NATO? Did some one say US?
    • D1  •  6 mths ago
      And now (Nov 11) this EXCLUSIVE THAT THEY DO NOT WISH TO REPORT ALSO..that there is heavy fighting from Libyan citizens and tribes against NATO rebels all across Libya,and many areas are now under the control of the Green Army;with many green flags flying in a great many highrise buildings all over Tripoli.And its being reported that Tripoli is almost under complete control by the Libyan Green Army and desert tribes.The rebels cut off power in Tripoli,and have suffered for lack of power,because many are injured and killed,and there isn't hospital power to aid them ! Many areas have been blown up by Green Resistance forces, and many political prisoners of the green resistance have been freed from imprisonment of the rebels.Many rebel are fleeing to outside of Tripoli,and in other areas they are fighting and killing each other.
      STAY TUNE,IT'S NOT OVER.... UNTIL AS AMERICAN SAY "THE FAT LADY SINGS"
      Power To The Green Liberation Front !
    • Crosseyed and Painless  •  6 mths ago
      of course NATO is guilty of war crimes in Libya, but the ICC doesn't have the ballywhoo's to do anything ... wusses!
    • Jose  •  Makati City, Philippines  •  6 mths ago
      As usual, the high and mighty get away with it. They are above the law they themselves enforce on others.
    • США  •  6 mths ago
      How the International Criminal Court can investigate NATO for crimes committed in Libya if the court is nothing more than the puppets of this lousy organization.
    • ION  •  Richardson, United States  •  6 mths ago
      " Impartially " means a different international court NOT ICC !!! When a court uses fighters jets to kill people we find out a band of murderers not an international court !
    • Generic  •  Fort Worth, United States  •  6 mths ago
      With all of their current work winding down it appears the ICC is in need of some new material. Hence the NATO investigation. In the end only the lawyers win while everyone else loses.
    • African Child  •  6 mths ago
      It is disgusting even remembering what NATO did to Libyan people expecially innocent children and women who are suffering from depleted Uranium used by NATO to bomb their homes and schools refered to as 'command and control centres' by the propagandists and the future effects of seeing thousands of their parents, friends and relations killed and their society cohession destroyed because they happened to be 'cursed' by having oil which western economies need.
      Please ICC stop insulting our sensibilities by calling for a probe that will amount to a waste of time and opportunity for ICC staff to spend holidays in devastated Libya at ICC/UN costs in the name of investigating war crimes when you saw it all happening for 8 months and you even tactfully encouraged it because the end goal (Gaddafi must be captured or Killed) is achieved and let the Libyans try and rebuild their bombed back to stone age country and lives.
      Perhaps you can start from that woman (Hillary) who sneaked into Tripoli and called for the killing of that countrys leader and a day later it happened as she instructed the NTC (Capture and Kill)
      • JamesB 6 mths ago
        Gaddafi raped and tortured his own people and kept them poor. The people of Libya revolted and they asked for help. NATO refused partially because if they went in oil production would stop. When Gaddafi's atrocities against the Libyans excided all limits and people kept asking NATOs help they went in. Still NATO wouldn’t have gone in except Gaddafi attacked NATO first in a of war terror.
      • tata 6 mths ago
        Good African child. However what your view was/is/shall be does not make a difference in the present world order. ICC is however working to heal the damaged conscience of the monster nations' nationals should they be having any.
        It is not about anything really and the monsters will kill again and again. Have you heard of the new song about Iran. "He has to be stopped building the nuclear bomb". The NATO mob is self-exciting for another lynching and slaughter of an innocent people.
      • D1 6 mths ago
        JamesB.hey look like you need some education about Libya and just who shot John so to speak....For it has been proven beyond a doubt that Gaddafi DID NOT ATTACK HIS PEOPLE ! In fact the Libyan government under Gaddafi green movement was only trying to stop rebel riots in Benghazi from killing policemen at an armory(just like the U.S is now trying to stop any riots in the streets). This was all in the works by the CIA long ago for many years to try and overthrow Gaddafi and Libya,and all of this is documented in the U.S files.All this rape talk was a propaganda ploy too....And if you think that the people of Libya was kept poor like American are right now,then why not check with the U.N human right commission report on Libya and see what they themselves report about Libya.In fact before the invasion of Libya,Gaddafi was to be given a Humanitarian award from them! And just check "The Truth About Libya ",and the other sources
        Man do not continue to allow your government and its news agencies to lie to you,and to lie themselves into unwarranted wars in your name,for if you do,you will for ever remain a chump for the system
    • jil01  •  Sunnyvale, United States  •  6 mths ago
      When you go into any sovereign nation unprovoked and start selectively killing civilians you are on thin ice no matter how you try to spin it.
      • Joe 6 mths ago
        How about when that leader supports the bombing of civilian aircraft?
    • PuttPutt  •  Austin, United States  •  6 mths ago
      It is time to leave NATO and the UN.
      • Beer 6 mths ago
        No need. US isn't signatory to the International Criminal Court.
      • Top of the food chain 6 mths ago
        We ARE NATO. You get that, don't you?
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