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    AP Exclusive: US No-Fly list doubles in 1 year

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration has more than doubled, to about 21,000 names, its secret list of suspected terrorists who are banned from flying to or within the United States, including about 500 Americans, the Associated Press has learned. The government lowered the bar for being added to the list, even as it says it's closer than ever to defeating al-Qaida.

    The size of the government's secret no-fly list has jumped from about 10,000 in the past year, according to government figures provided to the AP.

    The surge comes as the government says it's close to defeating al-Qaida, after killing many of its senior members. But senior officials said the threat does not stop there.

    "As long as we sustain the pressure on it, we judge that core al-Qaida will be of largely symbolic importance to the global jihadist movement," Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told Congress on Thursday. "But regional affiliates and, to a lesser extent, small cells and individuals will drive the global jihad agenda."

    Those are the people added to the no-fly list, current and former counterterrorism officials said. Most are from other countries; about 500 are Americans.

    "Both U.S. intelligence and law enforcement communities and foreign services continue to identify people who want to cause us harm, particularly in the U.S. and particularly as it relates to aviation," Transportation Security Administrator John Pistole said in an interview.

    Affiliated terror groups in Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, Algeria and elsewhere, as well as individuals who ascribe to al-Qaida's beliefs — "All are in the mix," said Michael Leiter, former director of the National Counterterrorism Center. "And no one is claiming that they are shrinking."

    The flood of new names began after the failed Christmas 2009 bombing of a Detroit-bound jetliner. The government lowered the standard for putting people on the list then scoured its files for anyone who qualified. The government will not disclose who is on its list or why someone might have been placed on it.

    Among the most significant new standards is that now a person doesn't have to be considered only a threat to aviation to be placed on the no-fly list. People who are considered a broader threat to domestic or international security or who attended a terror training camp also are included, said a U.S. counterterrorism official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive security matters.

    The Christmas attack led to other changes in how the U.S. assembles its watch list. Intelligence agencies across the government reviewed old files to find people who should have been on the government's terror watch list all along, plus those who should be added because of the new standards put in place to close security gaps.

    The Nigerian man who pleaded guilty in the Christmas 2009 attack over Detroit, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, was listed in a large U.S. intelligence database that includes partial names and relatives of suspected terrorists. That database is a feeder to the broad terror watch list, of which the no-fly list is a component, but only when there is enough information linking the person to terrorism. Officials believe the U.S. had enough information about Abdulmutallab at the time to put him on the broader terror watch list, which would have helped the intelligence community catch him.

    After the Christmas attack, "We learned a lot about the watch-listing process and made strong improvements, which continue to this day," said Timothy Healy, director of the Terrorist Screening Center, which produces the no-fly list.

    As agencies complete the reviews of their files, the pace of growth is expected to slow, the counterterrorism official said.

    The American Civil Liberties Union has sued the government on behalf of Americans who believe they're on the no-fly list and have not been able to travel by air for work or to see family.

    "The news that the list is growing tells us that more people's rights are being violated," said Nusrat Choudhury, a staff attorney working for the ACLU's national security project. "It's a secret list, and the government puts people on it without any explanation. Citizens have been stranded abroad."

    The government will not tell people whether they're on the list or why they're on it, making it impossible for people to defend themselves, Choudhury said. People who complain that they're unfairly on the no-fly list can submit a letter to the Homeland Security Department, but the only way they'll know if they're still on the list is to try to fly again, she said.

    While the list is secret, it is subject to continuous review to ensure that the right people are on it and that the ones who shouldn't be on it are removed, said Martin Reardon, former chief of the Terrorist Screening Operations center and now a vice president with the Soufan Group. If a person is nominated to be on the no-fly list, but there is insufficient information to justify it, the Terrorist Screening Center downgrades the person to a different list, he said.

    "You can't just say: 'Here's a name. Put him on the list.' You've got to have articulable facts," Reardon said.

    On average, there are 1,000 changes to the government's watch lists each day, most of which involve adding new information about someone on the list.

    The no-fly list has swelled to 20,000 people before, such as in 2004. At the time, people like the late Sen. Ted Kennedy were getting stopped before flying — causing constant angst and aggravation for innocent travelers. But much has changed since then.

    While thousands more people are on the list, instances of travelers being mistaken for terrorists are down significantly since the government — not the airlines — became responsible for checking the list, Pistole said. Travelers must now provide their full name, birthdate and gender when purchasing an airline ticket so the government can screen them against the terror watch list.

    But with the nature of the terrorism threat, it's not likely that the list will dwindle, even as al-Qaida's core leadership is defeated, Reardon said.

    "I would argue that even if (al-Qaida) as we know it ceased to exist as of tomorrow, other terrorist organizations or lone wolves with both the intent and capability of carrying out attacks against the U.S. would fill the void," Reardon said. "The consolidated terrorist watch list exists for that very reason."

    Once they are identified and placed on the list, he said, "We have a much greater chance of keeping them from entering the country."

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    Follow Eileen Sullivan on Twitter at (at)esullivanap.

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    AP Interactive: http://hosted.ap.org/interactives/2012/no-fly-list/

     
    • SnakemanJeffss  •  3 mths ago
      One day in the not so distant future, we will all be on a list.
      • Goldstein 3 mths ago
        We already are.
      • grendal113 3 mths ago
        yeah what do you mean one day.......I'm guessing I'm on at least a hundred lists. some good some bad. But, I will be extremly butt hurt if I can't get a passport and leave.......ohhhh yeah child-support I'm a prisoner of the united states I can't even take a cruise.
    • Milo Talon  •  Omaha, Nebraska  •  3 mths ago
      Screw the TSA, Homeland Security and all law-enforcement. They use this #$%$ as an excuse to harrass and control people. I'm fed up with the FEAR tactics used to control the U.S. population.
      • TCAT 3 mths ago
        Vote ron paul to end the assault on our freedoms !
      • Jimicon 3 mths ago
        Blaming the end user. Those rules and regs come from on High.
    • RG  •  Waterford, Michigan  •  3 mths ago
      Who wants to go to an airport, get treated like cattle; then radiated; and then groped by low-IQ government goons?
    • E  •  3 mths ago
      Every day America looses more freedom.
      Soon we will be no different than China or Cold War Russia.
    • Kev  •  3 mths ago
      NDAA welcomes you...
    • ben  •  3 mths ago
      And don't forget the lady with the cup cakes.
      • James 3 mths ago
        and the grandma who took a gun onto a plane!
    • not-that-stupid  •  3 mths ago
      How do they have that many? We don't have that many politicians!
      • Jarhead1982 3 mths ago
        Rats breed at alarming rates so you sure we dont have that many politicians?
      • not-that-stupid 3 mths ago
        Good point!
    • masterd  •  3 mths ago
      Thats why I quit flying and bought a bus style motorhome people think we are rock stars LOL when we stop for fuel its more fun we are together and have our 5 star hotel with us its really posh the same type you see all the big time acts traveling in and we dont have hassels easy to cover 500 miles in a day the cost we found is less than airfair and hotels plus car rentail Rvs are the way to go .
    • stumpedII  •  3 mths ago
      bildenberger plan is working perfectly.. destroy freedom in america.. bankrupt it.. destroy it's middle class.. then offer the savior's hand to it's crushed people.. the deal.. NWO will save us if we give up the constitution and become part fo the new world order.. a planet run by a corporate (fascist) govt.. with the people chipped slaves.. with no where to run .. no where to hide.. the population culled to the level of slaves needed to serve the corporate masters.
    • James  •  3 mths ago
      funny thing is, I'm on the no fly list and I'm retired form the military after 23years of service. tell you alot about their no fly list... still fighting that one after a year of proving of who I am.
      Yet Alec Baldwin still get to fly after his temper tantrum... how fair is that?
    • chet  •  3 mths ago
      lol @ the no-fly list. two of the 9/11 terrorists were on the no-fly list - and they got on.
    • Private Joker  •  3 mths ago
      government hacks behind a desk have to do something to justify their existence
    • tom  •  3 mths ago
      People are so afraid they would give up any right.
    • Dan  •  Albuquerque, New Mexico  •  3 mths ago
      The no-fly list is worthless. I have held a government security clearance for over 20 years- and my name is on the no-fly list! When I travel, I simply use my middle name with no problems. So, what use is the no-fly list if I work for one branch of the US government and hold a security clearance, and am on the government no-fly list? One branch isn't talking to the other isn't the only problem, and brings the no-fly list into question as to how accurate and useful it is at all.
    • Carl  •  Johannesburg, South Africa  •  3 mths ago
      My wife is currently in the USA till the end of March 2012.

      Can anybody give me an indication how much it would cost to get her on the No-fly-List?

      Much Appreciated

      Carl Botha
    • ron  •  Minneapolis, Minnesota  •  3 mths ago
      It would be so much easier if we just profiled, used a little common sense.
    • Jarrod  •  Augusta, Maine  •  3 mths ago
      The dumbing down of America is almost complete. The new America is a land of the cowards and home of the slaves. It amazes me what people in this country have put up with. While our once free country turned into a police state the average Jane/Joe was distracted by American Idol and the ESPN. Numbers don't lie: you are more likely to die of a bumble bee sting or drown in a bathtub than be killed by a terrorist. The war on exaggerated terror has always been nothing more than a war on our freedom.
    • Robert  •  3 mths ago
      more government inconveniences piled on old ladies, children and taxpayers !! ban this crap and the TSA !
    • John  •  3 mths ago
      I put myself on the No-Fly list. I hate the hassel.
    • ruben  •  Pharr, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      I bet the main reson for it doubling are those who know the 4th ammendment and didn't want to get violated. You know, the smart people that knows the law!
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