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    AP Exclusive: US talks to Afghan insurgent group

    ISLAMABAD (AP) — Anxious to accelerate peace moves, top-level U.S. officials have held talks with a representative of an insurgent movement led by a former Afghan prime minister who has been branded a terrorist by Washington, a relative of the rebel leader says.

    Dr. Ghairat Baheer, a representative and son-in-law of longtime Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar (Gul-bu-DEEN HEK-mah-tyar), told The Associated Press this week that he had met separately with David Petraeus, former commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan who is now CIA director, and had face-to-face discussions earlier this month with U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker and U.S. Marine Gen. John Allen, currently the top commander in the country.

    Baheer, who was released in 2008 after six years in U.S. detention at Bagram Air Field in Afghanistan, described his talks with U.S. officials as nascent and exploratory. Yet, Baheer says the discussions show that the U.S. knows that in addition to getting the blessing of Taliban chief Mullah Mohammad Omar — a bitter rival of Hekmatyar even though both are fighting international troops — any peace deal would have to be supported by Hekmatyar, who has thousands of fighters and followers primarily in the north and east.

    Hizb-i-Islami, which means Islamic party, has had ties to al-Qaida but in 2010 floated a 15-point peace plan during informal meetings with the Afghan government in Kabul. At the time, however, U.S. officials refused to see the party's delegation.

    "Hizb-i-Islami is a reality that no one can ignore," Baheer said during an interview last week at his spacious home in a posh suburb of Pakistan's capital, Islamabad. "For a while, the United States and the Kabul government tried not to give so much importance to Hizb-i-Islami, but now they have come to the conclusion that they cannot make it without Hizb-i-Islami."

    In Washington, National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden would not confirm that such meetings took place but said the U.S. was maintaining "a range of contacts in support of an Afghan-led reconciliation process."

    A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the high-level meetings, said Petraeus last met with Baheer in July 2011 when he was still commanding NATO forces in Afghanistan. Petraeus took over as CIA director in September.

    On Saturday, Afghan President Hamid Karzai said he also had met recently with Hizb-i-Islami representatives. Baheer said he attended those meetings but added that the party considers the Afghan government corrupt and lacking legitimacy.

    Karzai's announcement appeared intended to bolster his position as the key player in the search for peace. The U.S. repeatedly has said that formal negotiations must be Afghan-led, but Karzai has complained that his government has not been directly involved in recent preliminary talks with Taliban representatives and plans for setting up a Taliban political office in the Gulf state of Qatar.

    Baheer said his meeting with Petraeus, whom he described as a "very humble, polite person," was marked by a few rounds of verbal sparring with each boasting a battlefield strength that the other dismissed as exaggerated.

    "There was a psychological war in these first meetings," he said.

    Baheer said Crocker and Allen tried to persuade Hizb-i-Islami to become part of Afghanistan's political network, accept the Afghan security forces and embrace the nation's current constitution. He said Hizb-i-Islami was ready to accept the security forces and the constitution, but wants a multiparty commission established to review and revise the charter.

    "We are willing to make compromises," said Baheer. "We already have said we will accept the Afghan army and the police."

    He said Hizb-i-Islami envisioned a multiparty government in postwar Afghanistan. At the same time, the group wants all U.S. and NATO forces, including military trainers, to leave Afghanistan, he said.

    "The presence of any foreign forces will be not acceptable to us under any cover," he said. "Daily, there is another American killing of civilians. The longer they stay, the more they are hated by the Afghan people."

    Overtures to Hekmatyar's group show not only the degree of U.S. interest in pursuing a settlement but also the complexity of putting together an agreement acceptable to all sides in factious Afghanistan. The U.S. formally declared Hekmatyar a "global terrorist" in 2003 because of alleged links to al-Qaida and froze all assets which he may have in the United States.

    Hekmatyar, who is in his mid-60s, was among the major recipients of U.S. aid during the Afghan war against the Soviets in the 1980s. He and other anti-Soviet commanders swept into Kabul in 1992 and ousted the pro-Soviet government, only to turn against one another in a bitter and bloody power struggle that destroyed vast sections of the Afghan capital and killed an estimated 50,000 civilians before the Taliban seized the city.

    A bitter rival of Mullah Omar, Hekmatyar fled to Iran and remained there until the Taliban were ousted in the 2001 U.S.-led invasion. He declared war on foreign troops in his country and rebuilt his military forces, which by 2008 had become a major threat to the U.S.-led coalition.

    Contacts with Hekmatyar's group as well as parallel efforts to negotiate with the Taliban have taken on new urgency following the NATO decision to withdraw foreign combat forces, transfer security responsibility to the Afghans by the end of 2014 and bring an end to the unpopular war, which is increasingly seen as a drain on the financially strapped Western countries that provide most of the troops.

    On Sunday, the U.S. special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan, Marc Grossman, completed two days of meetings about the peace process with Karzai and other Afghan officials. Grossman, who was to travel to Qatar on Monday, urged the Taliban to issue a "clear statement" against international terrorism and affirm their commitment to the peace process "to end the armed conflict in Afghanistan."

    U.S. officials also have reached out to the Pakistan-based Haqqani militant network to test its interest in peace talks. Haqqani fighters, the second largest insurgent group after the Taliban, have been blamed for most of the high-profile attacks in the heart of the Afghan capital.

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    Kathy Gannon is AP special regional correspondent covering Pakistan and Afghanistan. She can be reached at www.twitter.com/kathygannon

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    Associated Press writers Deb Riechmann in Kabul and Kimberly Dozier and Anne Gearan in Washington contributed to this report.

     
    • dean  •  4 mths ago
      Well we have to give a couple billion dollars to somebody don't we.
    • freeman 44  •  4 mths ago
      Why our government is so stubborn in learning it really is ignorant about other nations and their cultures. Afghans, unlike many other countries do not have any loyalty to a “government” their loyalty goes to people and tribes. Get out and leave people alone.
    • RobetK  •  Winter Haven, Florida  •  4 mths ago
      There makeing a deal on how much tax payers money we are going to pay them off with. Then they will take the money and start the same crap over again
      • 123 4 mths ago
        Is their really a place called Winter Haven, Flordia? That's ironic since Flordia is not much of a winter Haven.
    • Bryanne W.  •  Chico, California  •  4 mths ago
      So the scorpion says to the frog, wait, wait; "Trust me."
    • T.J.  •  4 mths ago
      Trying ANYTHING to extract us from the Afghanistan MESS... bribes will need to be paid...
    • ROBERT  •  Kabul, Afghanistan  •  4 mths ago
      Heres a plan nobody is talking about FIGHT A WAR TO WIN...THEN COME HOME...save hand holding for the red cross
      • Linda 4 mths ago
        RIGHT ON ROBERT...and when in doubt...USE NUKES
      • Ernie 4 mths ago
        We won the war and it is time to come home. Robert take Linda with you and go over there and "finish" what you think needs to be done. Both of you will be dead in five minutes. You two are very brave with other's lives.
      • James F 4 mths ago
        We don't need the Nukes ... we just need to get the deadwood out of the Pentagon ... we need a leader that knows how a war is to be fought ... we have the stuff to do it with ... we need another Patton, Eisenhour, and MacArthur ... they knew how to win ... these butt kisser's in the pentagon and whitehouse are to busy counting their kickback money to do the job the right way ... I remember when the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor ... we kicked their butt and then went to Europe and finished a job no one else could do ... and it #$%$ sure didn't take any 10 years to clean their clock ... I'm ashamed of the people we have running the show in this country now ... a bunch of sissy's !
    • Sage  •  Kabul, Afghanistan  •  4 mths ago
      Im just trying to get back to my family in one piece.
      • RayH 4 mths ago
        Good luck to you.
      • Meyrl 4 mths ago
        Hang in ther Bro., and thanks for your service .
      • Ballay 4 mths ago
        Why you went there in first place, if you had no courage to face them.
    • WildBillCody  •  Binghamton, New York  •  4 mths ago
      God, I wished Petraeus would run for president.
      • American 4 mths ago
        He's not corruptable , neither was Stormn Norman or Gen. Powell ,
        !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      • 122112 4 mths ago
        Why? He would still be facing the same idiot republican/tea baggers in congress, so nothing would get done without him giving tax breaks for the rich.
    • John Wayne  •  4 mths ago
      Odd!
      Why talk to insurgents?
      Like you can really trust an insurgent!
      • RICHARD_ABC 4 mths ago
        Can "an insurgent" trust us?
      • organizizer 4 mths ago
        the current gov't of Afghanistan is all ex-insurgents. whats 2 or 3 more?
      • Charlie 4 mths ago
        Insurgents are more than willing to negotiate. What's the problem here? Oh, more money? You already spent what we gave you? No problem, here is some more. Come up short, give us a jingle. Always ready to help, but we're on the line with Muqtada al Sadir at the moment, you know the one, the fat little dude in Iran who wants the US out of Iraq (we still have a large contingent of "advisors there). We have to continue our promise to buy him off, even after we left. Small or large bills this time?
    • Terril  •  New Orleans, Louisiana  •  4 mths ago
      Did anyone else think that US citizens can be called terrorists for rising up against an oppressive govt?
    • Adam  •  4 mths ago
      How stupid talking and this article. Ranks with the present administration. Packup and leave no other options save our soldiers from forced murder. Wish we could hold politicians accountable
    • Dirk Pitt  •  4 mths ago
      I noticed how they very carefully avoided using the word 'negotiations'.
    • Nick  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  4 mths ago
      so who remeberes Vietnam?
    • WERETOAST!  •  4 mths ago
      CAN THE PEOPLE VOTE ON THIS ONE...........?
    • Brook  •  Milwaukee, Wisconsin  •  4 mths ago
      What is the difference between a terrorist and a Patriot? A terrorist is through the viewpoint of the Oppressive govt and a patriot is from the viewpoint of the oppressed.
    • motorhogman  •  Jefferson, South Carolina  •  4 mths ago
      Why just tell me why ? Are we dealing with these terrorist ? Either kill them all or get the h#ll out of there and mind our own biz !
    • TP  •  Port Huron, Michigan  •  4 mths ago
      I guess the long standing policy of the United States to not deal with terrorists was only #$%$
    • stop the BS  •  4 mths ago
      A lot of computer generals posting on this topic. I am willing to go along with General Petraeus
      on this one.
    • Citizen for Progress  •  4 mths ago
      This is tough work but negotiating is preferable to mindless killing.
    • Madison  •  Anchorage, Alaska  •  4 mths ago
      Go to the next vally over, there will be a new group to deal with.
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