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    APNewsBreak: US drops plans to keep troops in Iraq

    BAGHDAD (AP) — The U.S. is abandoning plans to keep U.S. troops in Iraq past a year-end withdrawal deadline, The Associated Press has learned. The decision to pull out fully by January will effectively end more than eight years of U.S. involvement in the Iraq war, despite ongoing concerns about its security forces and the potential for instability.

    The decision ends months of hand-wringing by U.S. officials over whether to stick to a Dec. 31 withdrawal deadline that was set in 2008 or negotiate a new security agreement to ensure that gains made and more than 4,400 American military lives lost since March 2003 do not go to waste.

    In recent months, Washington has been discussing with Iraqi leaders the possibility of several thousand American troops remaining to continue training Iraqi security forces.

    But a senior Obama administration official in Washington confirmed Saturday that all American troops will leave Iraq except for about 160 active-duty soldiers attached to the U.S. Embassy.

    A senior U.S. military official confirmed the departure and said the withdrawal could allow future but limited U.S. military training missions in Iraq if requested.

    Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

    Throughout the discussions, Iraqi leaders have adamantly refused to give U.S. troops immunity from prosecution in Iraqi courts, and the Americans have refused to stay without it. Iraq's leadership has been split on whether it wanted American forces to stay. Some argued the further training and U.S. help was vital, particularly to protect Iraq's airspace and gather security intelligence. But others have deeply opposed any American troop presence, including Shiite militiamen who have threatened attacks on any American forces who remain.

    Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has told U.S. military officials that he does not have the votes in parliament to provide immunity to the American trainers, the U.S. military official said.

    A western diplomatic official in Iraq said al-Maliki told international diplomats he will not bring the immunity issue to parliament because lawmakers will not approve it.

    Iraqi lawmakers excel at last-minute agreements. But with little wiggle room on the immunity issue and the U.S. military needing to move equipment out as soon as possible, a last-minute change between now and December 31 seems almost out of the question.

    Regardless of whether U.S. troops are here or not, there will be a massive American diplomatic presence.

    The U.S. Embassy in Baghdad is the largest in the world, and the State Department will have offices in Basra, Irbil and Kirkuk as well as other locations around the country where contractors will train Iraqi forces on U.S. military equipment they're purchasing.

    About 5,000 security contractors and personnel will be tasked with helping protect American diplomats and facilities around the country, the State Department has said.

    The U.S. Embassy will still have a handful of U.S. Marines for protection and 157 U.S. military personnel in charge of facilitating weapons sales to Iraq. Those are standard functions at most American embassies around the world and would be considered part of the regular embassy staff.

    When the 2008 agreement requiring all U.S. forces leave Iraq was passed, many U.S. officials assumed it would inevitably be renegotiated so that American forces could stay longer.

    The U.S. said repeatedly this year it would entertain an offer from the Iraqis to have a small force stay behind, and the Iraqis said they would like American military help. But as the year wore on and the number of American troops that Washington was suggesting could stay behind dropped, it became increasingly clear that a U.S. troop presence was not a sure thing.

    The issue of legal protection for the Americans was the deal-breaker.

    Iraqis are still angry over incidents such as the Abu Ghraib prison scandal or Haditha, when U.S. troops killed Iraqi civilians in Anbar province, and want American troops subject to Iraqi law.

    American commanders don't want to risk having their forces end up in an Iraqi courtroom if they're forced to defend themselves in a still-hostile environment.

    It is highly unlikely that Iraqi lawmakers would have the time to approve a U.S. troop deal even if they wanted to. The parliament is in recess on its Hajj break until Nov. 20, leaving just a few weeks for legislative action before the end of year deadline.

    Going down to zero by the end of this year would allow both al-Maliki and President Barack Obama to claim victory. Obama will have fulfilled a key campaign promise to end the war and al-Maliki will have ended the American presence in Iraq and restored Iraqi sovereignty.

    The Iraqi prime minister was also under intense pressure from his anti-American allies, the Sadrists, to reject any American military presence.

    An advisor close to al-Maliki said the Americans suggested during negotiations that if no deal is reached in time, U.S. troops could be stationed in Kuwait.

    With the U.S. military presence in Iraq currently at about 41,000 and heading down to zero, almost all of those forces will be flowing out of Iraq into Kuwait and then home or other locations.

    A western expert in Iraq said it is conceivable that if the Iraqi government asks early next year for U.S. troops to return, there will be forces still in Kuwait able to come back and do the job.

    But he stressed that the core problems still remain on the Iraqi side about what types of legal immunity to give the American troops and whether parliament can pass it.

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    Lara Jakes can be reached at http://twitter.com/@larajakesAP

    Rebecca Santana can be reached at http://twitter.com/ruskygal

     

    957 comments

    • Robert L  •  4 mths ago
      I too consider this good news but I'm gonna speculate that within two years Iraq will be under the complete control of Islamic extremists and will own any military hardware that we provide the Iraqis. Our diplomatic personel will be at grave risk.
    • Steve  •  4 mths ago
      our scientist and our military and NASA need to work on a satilite system that can take out nuclear warhead rocket launches an tae the starwar project and make it a reality the religous finatics want the bible to come to pass they want Armeggedento happen and will use any means of doing this most peopl are followers and will follow a idiot brainwasher into death like the rats followed the pied pipper commen scence is what will save you nothing else dont be a idiotic fool speak up
    • Steve  •  4 mths ago
      when our troops are fighting in a area that has nuclear capability they can be taken out with 1 bombb these people dont care and want to destroy the USA russias president called us parisites these people use women and children to strap bombs on them and blow up innocent crowds of people they promise that they will receive 70 virgins what kind of idiots do they take there own people for and there religon is a joke thou shall not kill the russian president better watch his back he should be taken out screw them all you cant fight a war like your weeding a garden dont trust anyone and stop the massive flow of allowing people to come to our country and become american citizens thats letting the enemy live amongst us sure let some come but only the ones that pose no threat to the USA rewrite the constitution so our country is not sold out from under us there is not enough to go around now God save America in God we trust give me liberty or give me death they rewrote the bible from the old tetiment to the new tetiment the same needs to be done to the Constitution before we are outnumbered in our own country,the whole plan of our enemies is to bankrupt our country and we are letting them do it,it must stop NOW
    • LauraM  •  4 mths ago
      Thank God They are brin gin .
      our Boys home, now if they don't turn around and send them to Afganistan maybe we can concentrate on rebuilding our own Country
    • steelerman  •  4 mths ago
      We still will have a huge military presence in the area and everybody knows it. Kuwait, Qatar, Djabouti, Bahrain, Turkey, etc and a fleet of warships in the Persian Gulf.
    • william  •  4 mths ago
      I'd like to see a list of all the tenants in that 8 billion dollar US embassy.
    • Jackattack  •  4 mths ago
      another vietnam. lives lost while bankrupting america and nothing accomplished
    • OpinionatedAmerican  •  4 mths ago
      Ill believe it when I see it.
    • next  •  4 mths ago
      Why is it that it takes 8 to 10 weeks of basic training and 10 weeks of (AIT) advanced individual training before a GI is sent off to war, and 8 to 10 years to train Iraqi and Afghan forces. By the time we train these guys they are ready to retire or start their own terrorist group like Osama Bin Laden did.
    • J.  •  4 mths ago
      Bring the troops home from ALL over the world and BALANCE the budget.
    • Bannister 49  •  4 mths ago
      So what did we get for our expense? 5000 dead 50,000 wounded over a trillion dollars gone Gas is a dollar more than when we went and the unemployment doubled.
    • Mogollon Dude  •  4 mths ago
      An what will happen to the Green Zone where the US has spent Billions to building it up ? I believe they built the biggest US Embassy ever more like a Huge Palace .
    • nuf ced  •  4 mths ago
      4K dead Americans, billions of dollars spent on military, billions given to Iraq-who don't want us there, and billions stolen by corrupt officals. Let me think... Get out.
    • Lee Vining  •  4 mths ago
      Should have never gone in.
    • Dee  •  4 mths ago
      I hope there are jobs for the troops when they get home.
    • The Man  •  4 mths ago
      Well here comes the civil war and the birth of the new Saddam. Iraq will be once again be ruled by a dictator. What a waste of money and American lives. Once again America allowed their finest young men and women to be cannon fodder in a useless war! Silly human race!
    • Flicker  •  4 mths ago
      It's about time, bring the real American heroes home! No more of this middle east bull.
    • Snjlooker  •  4 mths ago
      Bring the troops home and stop giving and selling weapons to them. Those weapons will end up being used against us in a year. They have oil, let them use their own money to rebuild thier country not our money.
    • Casey  •  4 mths ago
      First it is a political move, second are they coming home or to Afghanistan or Africa, third where is mass work call up for three thousand truck drivers at 7,000 a month tax free and a call for fifty car haulers so we can bring home our equipment and not have to face it when it is sold to an Arab country and is used in Israel, fourth if Arab and African history of a country taken from the outside, then held for a length of time, when that power leaves a real civil battle or war begins, so are we on Call or are we just going to supply air power?
      Yes we may have had reason to attack the country but the truth is after the first election we were over staying our contract.
    • Psalm 58  •  4 mths ago
      That is excellent news.
      I hope the Iraqi people will make the most of the opportunity that our soldiers blood has provided for their Nation.
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