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    Atheist Group Targets Holiday Displays

    A Wisconsin-based atheist group is taking aim at once-innocuous nativity scenes and other religious decorations around the country this holiday season.

    Earlier this month, the Freedom from Religion Foundation wrote to Pitman, N.J., Mayor Mike Batten to ask that he remove the city's "Keep Christ in Christmas" banner that hangs over a county road.

    In Athens, Texas, the group posted a sign on the courthouse lawn near a nativity display Wednesday afternoon, that read, in part, "There are no gods, no devils, no angles, no heaven, and no hell." It's the same message on all of their signs, which are being distributed in several states, including California where the FFRF targeted a nativity scene display that's been a tradition for nearly 60 years at Palisades Park in Santa Monica, Calif.

    And just last night, a sign went up in Warren, Mich.

    "There was a nativity display in the atrium of city hall and they've been stalling us but we've come up with an indoor display," she said FFRF co-founder Annie Laurie Gaylor.

    So far the organization has only posted a handful of signs with help from its 17,000 members, but Gaylor has set her sights on wider distribution.

    "I think we could get a system going where there could be dozens and dozens going out, if not hundreds," Gaylor told ABCNews.com.

    In Texas, the nativity scene had been a part of the Athens courthouse lawn holiday decorations for at least 20 years, alongside snowmen, elves and Santa.

    Texas judge Richard Sanders told ABCNews.com nobody had ever tried to put a sign with an atheist message on the courthouse lawn before.

    He asked sheriff's deputies to take the sign down because he said the FFRF member who posted it didn't have permission.

    "We're not trying to promote any religion, it's just a nice part of our decoration," Sanders said.

    But promoting religion is exactly what the FFRF says these cities are doing when they display religious-themed decorations.

    "Our whole position is that we don't believe religious symbols and displays belong on public property," Gaylor said.

    It's a controversial stance that has turned her organization into a magnet for hate mail and angry phone calls. Gaylor said one her "favorites" was the recent message, "Don't you know what f***ing Christmas is all about?"

    But Gaylor insists FFRF's point of view will, one day, become the norm.

    "Non-believers are growing so fast in this country … the government will not be able to get away with showing this kind of preference for nativity scenes," she said.

    Damon Vix, the FFRF member in Santa Monica, Calif., who encouraged other atheist organizations to apply for the right to use public space at Palisades Park, was successful in dominating the city's lottery system.

    The atheist groups who entered the lottery, such as American Atheists, won 18 plots at the park. Religious groups were given two plots. They usually use 14 to tell the nativity story.

    "[The park is] not supposed to be used to promote religion -- it is explicitly promoting religion and it has been even though the city isn't directly financially supporting it," Vix told ABC News Los Angeles station KABC. "And that's the main issue here, a separation of church and state."

    Hunter Jameson, the spokesman for the Santa Monica Nativity Scenes Committee, told KABC the FFRF is trying to suppress their first amendment rights by "pushing us out of the park."

    "We have no objection to their being there, it's fine. They can be there and express their views all they want. They have been there in the past," Jameson said.

    But he does object to the groups using so many of the available spaces.

    But Vix told the station atheist groups are going to continue fighting.

    "There's a growing secular movement that wants to be vocal," Vix told KABC. "We're happy about what we believe, we believe we have an equal say and we're going to say it. And we're going to fight for our rights."

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    14 comments

    • Mark H  •  Wilmington, Delaware  •  5 mths ago
      Don't they have something better to do? Are their lives that empty that they need to fight this battle? I am an atheist, but I would never fight nor argues for any religious displays to be removed. I respect that a large number of people are religious. Now, to be fair - if some group wanted a Jewish or Kwanzaa or Muslim or Buddhist [etc] sign or display in a publically-owned area, I would not deny them the ability go express their beliefs.

      I won't see you in Church on Sunday, but I'll be sure to wave and smile and chat with you at the grocery store. I don't hold anything against you for your beliefs, and I sure won't waste the time and energy to attempt to get you to stop or change the expression of your beliefs.
    • lazy t  •  5 mths ago
      Its Great how Atheist groups are living examples and proof of Bible Prophesy coming true and they don't even know it !, In their attempt to suppress God and the Bible they are instead strengthening the Christian Faith ! , And i Love it !!!!!
    • dean  •  St. Louis, United States  •  5 mths ago
      what exaclty do atheist beleive in?
      • Ted 5 mths ago
        Why does it matter? Why do you HAVE to believe in something?
      • Rickycardo 5 mths ago
        As an atheist I don't "believe" in anything. As an engineer and scientist I accept facts based on empirical evidence. The sky is blue because the testable and provable data says it is. The keywords there are "testable and provable". I am also quite comfortable and content in the knowledge that when I die I will cease to exist, except in memory. I am a loving and caring father and a just and moral person. None of those traits require belief in some sort of superstition. If you want to believe in some celestial voice that is your choice and I am neither offended nor concerned.
      • dean 5 mths ago
        but what about things that can not be explained with testable and provable data.....
    • Keep Your Change  •  Tujunga, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Freedoms are what makes this country so great! You can believe in or not believe in anything you want. But how dare you try to take away others freedoms that you do not agree with!
    • Jim  •  Houston, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Aren't there better things to be concerned about?
    • White  •  5 mths ago
      Why don't antheists just say happy solstice and move on. Their paranoid beting of people who do believe is old. It is not like christians run around and say "Merry Christmas oh and by the way ateists suck"
      • Ted 5 mths ago
        "Why don't antheists just say happy solstice and move on." Because when we say things like that we are accused of trying to destroy christmas. Christians like to have their cake and eat it too.
    • Charles  •  5 mths ago
      take that crap-o-la off public property! if you want to display it in your home, property, or have the star of bethlemen shine out your a**, fine!
      • White 5 mths ago
        Run Charles run, there are theologic monsters under your bed
    • Alan  •  San Diego, United States  •  5 mths ago
      As an atheist, I believe it is only fair that our 'thoughts' be as present in public spaces as much as other religions. Why do religious people hate atheists with such a fervor that they would -if they could- exterminate us all?
      • White 5 mths ago
        How do you figure the hatred. How many stories are out there about christians telling atheists what they can or van not display
      • dean 5 mths ago
        and why do atheist hate religion so much?
      • lazy t 5 mths ago
        I don't hate atheist , i have sympothy for you because Satan has fooled you !
    • Not sure who  •  5 mths ago
      If you don't want to worship God, then don't, it's your right. But it is also my right to display or worship as I want.
      • Drew 5 mths ago
        Yes, as long as you don't use tax money to do so or do so on public land. You are welcome to put up as many nativity scenes on your own property as you want.
      • MG 5 mths ago
        As Drew stated, I agree too. You are welcome to worship however you want but I don't want to fund your delusions with my tax dollars. Also given the extreme activist activities of a lot of churches, I don't think they should be exempt from taxes.
    • Owen  •  Tampa, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Militant Atheists are just as bad as the militant religious. You say God and JC are make believe. Why do you have such a problem with that? What about Santa? Are you ok with him? What if I call him Saint Nicholas? Oh, now you have a problem with him. You make me laugh with your stupidity.
    • half tilted  •  Los Angeles, United States  •  5 mths ago
      christian creeps!....don't come knocking on my door .
    • No Go  •  Tampa, United States  •  5 mths ago
      It's not a belief with atheists, it's what science teaches us, and that is that their is no god, the earth formed over 4 billion years ago, man evolved from apes.
    • Drew  •  5 mths ago
      Why do so many "Christians" think the first amendment gives them the right to force us to worship their dead god on a stick?
    • Charles  •  5 mths ago
      take that crap-o-la off public property! if you want to display it in your home, property, or have the star of bethlemen shine out your a**, fine!
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