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    At BCS schools, players tend to pursue same major

    ATLANTA (AP) — When Jay Finch arrived at Georgia Tech, he wasn't just interested in being a lineman for the Yellow Jackets football team. He wanted to study architecture, too.

    Then he talked with some student advisers, who gave him a dose of reality.

    "They were like, 'You can expect anywhere from 100 to 120 hours of studio time,'" Finch recalled. "I said, 'Oh, like in a month.' And they were like, 'No, in a week.' And I was like, 'On top of football?'"

    With that, Finch hopped aboard the M Train.

    At Georgia Tech, where the famous fight song proclaims "I'm a heck of an engineer," nearly 70 percent of the football team (43 of 62 players) has chosen to major in management, a business degree dubbed the "M Train" by those on campus who consider it an easier route to a diploma than the school's renowned engineering program.

    But the Yellow Jackets are hardly the only school where players tend to congregate in the same fields of study. There are four others universities where at least half the sophomores, juniors and seniors playing football are pursuing the same degree, The Associated Press found in a survey of the 68 schools in the conferences which receive automatic bids to the Bowl Championship Series, plus Notre Dame and Big East-member-to-be TCU.

    At Vanderbilt, it's human and organizational development (35 of 59). At UCLA, history is a big draw (27 of 47). At Wake Forest, there's been a gridiron run on the communications department (34 of 60). At Baylor, upset winners over TCU on the opening weekend of this season, expect to find a lot of big guys in general studies (27 of 53).

    This is not mere coincidence, of course. While it's natural for a selected group of students — in this case, male athletes — to be interested in the same classroom subjects, it's also apparent many are drawn to courses that are more accommodating to their Saturday pursuit.

    "I wanted to dedicate myself more toward football," conceded Finch, a sophomore center. "Yeah, I did take a little bit of the easier road. Management is still hard. You've still got to go to class.

    "But," he added, "at least I'm not up 'til 3 in the morning drawing."

    The trend is so prevalent it has its own name — clustering — and extends far beyond Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt, UCLA, Wake Forest and Baylor.

    The AP survey, compiled from media guides, university websites and information provided by the schools, showed at least half the football players with declared majors at a dozen other universities are bunched in two fields of study. At 22 schools, 50 percent or more are pursuing a degree from a group of three majors.

    That means more than half of the schools at the core of major college football — 39 of 68 teams — have some level of clustering.

    At a recent summit hosted by NCAA President Mark Emmert, where a rash of rule-breaking was the main focus, university presidents quietly discussed the impact that clustering has on the academic experience for student-athletes.

    While the governing body has no intention of mandating more diversity in the selection of majors, it is looking at compiling more data on what players are studying, hoping it can be used to improve athletes' academic experience.

    "We're not going to say certain majors are out of bounds. We're not going to say you have to take certain majors," said Kevin Lennon, the NCAA's vice president of academic and membership affairs. "Those are personal decisions that every student-athlete has to make, just like any student."

    The situation puts into focus one of the ever-present conflicts in big-time college sports: winning games, making money and keeping the boosters happy vs. providing athletes with a quality education and keeping up school standards.

    Georgia Tech, for instance, receives more requests from the football team than any other for special admissions — enrollment for those who don't meet the standards applied to the overall student body. But officials at the Atlanta school point out management is one of the most rigorous business programs in the country, requiring everyone to take two calculus courses and two lab sciences.

    "There's always going to be that tension," said Anderson Smith, the senior vice provost for academic affairs. "You've got to recruit who the best players are. But it's a much more heterogeneous population than what we have applying to Georgia Tech as regular students."

    Vanderbilt is considered the toughest academic school in the football-crazy Southeastern Conference, which is usually cited as the reason the Commodores perennially wind up at the bottom of the league standings. And yet 35 of 59 non-freshmen were going for the same degree.

    By the way, what is human and organizational development anyway?

    "Leadership is one of the things that we focus on, and we have a very active and engaged student body," said Beth Shinn, who chairs the department. "My guess is any club or sorority you would look at would have an overrepresentation of HOD people."

    In fact, human and organization development is the most popular major on campus among all students, including three of the last six student government presidents, according to Shinn. It's a wide-ranging field, requiring courses in calculus, economics, statistics and social sciences, as well as psychology, sociology, anthropology, political science and public policy.

    "Our students are prepared for a vast variety of careers," Shinn said. "We don't do basket-weaving, thank you."

    Chris Marve can attest to that. The senior linebacker is actually pursuing a double-major, combining human and organizational development with sociology. As part of his HOD curriculum, he interned over the summer at a Nashville law firm and has his sights on becoming an attorney.

    "This major is definitely not just an athlete's major," Marve said. "People who come here are very intelligent and have a very high intellect, so it's not an easy major at all even though a lot of athletes do sign up for it. I think it's the most powerful major you can leave out of here with."

    The majors winning the popularity contest vary from school to school.

    At Cincinnati, 40 players picked criminal justice as their major. At Mississippi State, 30 players have declared in kinesiology. Sports administration is the choice of 28 players at LSU. Twenty-one Iowa players are majoring in interdepartmental studies, while 20 players Clemson went with sociology.

    "We used to call 'em Mickey Mouse courses. They exists at every university," said Murray Sperber, who teaches at the University of California, Berkeley, is a professor emeritus at Indiana University and author of the book, "Beer & Circus: How Big-time College Sports Is Crippling Undergraduate Education."

    "As an educator, my concern is: Are they getting a meaningful education?"

    Some athletes seem baffled by the whole process of sorting out a major.

    The vast majority of Florida players start out in social and behavioral sciences, which is actually a broad area of study that leads to choosing a major and getting a degree.

    Tight end Trey Burton, a sophomore, wants to pursue a career in business. He isn't sure why he started out in social and behavioral sciences.

    "I have no clue," he said. "I guess they just give you that when you get here and that's what you start out with. I really don't even know what that is. What is it? Social and behavioral? I don't even know what that is, to be honest with you."

    Sperber believes the Academic Progress Rate, a landmark program set up by the NCAA to compel schools to move student-athletes into meaningful courses and show they are moving toward a degree, has actually led to more clustering of majors.

    Schools can be stripped of scholarships if not enough players are making the grade. Therefore, he said, advisers tend to steer players toward less-demanding classes.

    "The whole APR stuff puts a tremendous amount of pressure on academic advisers. It puts pressure on athletes to choose their major very early. It's the law of unintended consequences," Sperber said. "You think of a good defense, and immediately the offense is thinking of ways to get around it."

    The NCAA makes no apologies for the APR, saying it has led to tougher academic standards and ensured that athletes from all sports graduate at a rate that matches or exceeds the student body as a whole.

    "We need to remind ourselves that before the reform effort, some students weren't getting a degree at all," Lennon said. "The APR is incredibly significant. We have more young people moving toward a degree. We have many more getting degrees. That's the most important thing."

    The NCAA has also done extensive research that shows the vast majority of athletes — more than eight in 10 — are satisfied with their choice of major.

    And if they aren't, Myron Rolle advises them to make it a priority to take control of their academic careers.

    The former Florida State star earned a Rhodes scholarship while starting at strong safety for the Seminoles. He took a year off from football to study at Oxford and is now trying to make it in the NFL. Ultimately, he hopes to become a neurosurgeon.

    "I took a very proactive approach immediately when I got to school that I wanted to be in a certain major and I needed tutors and I needed this time for my teachers after class to be able to succeed and flourish," Rolle said.

    "You have a lot of young kids, 18- and 19-year-olds, who want to do exactly what the coach says to get on the field. They go to college with the dreams of winning a national championship and being the best player they can be.

    "But ultimately, after you're done with your school, you want to say, What did I gain from this school? Did I gain an education?"

    ___

    AP Sports Writers Mark Long in Gainesville, Fla., and Teresa Walker in Nashville, Tenn., contributed to this report.

    ___

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    269 comments

    • Ryan  •  8 mths ago
      No one is talking about the "Educational Industrial Complex" where there are 200 plus programs and #$%$ near 100 degrees for subjects such as "Women's Studies" and "Human and Organizational Development". What exactly is someone supposed to do with those degrees? Teach those subjects? Professor Sperber should be more concerned about the proliferation of empty degrees than the clustering of a tiny amount of people into certain fields. The amount of degrees offered should only be in 30-50 range, not 100. Our problem is that we have far too many useless degrees cluttering up our colleges. But professors will defend these because it benefits them. But that's the issue with professors--they criticize everyone but themselves.
    • Hermanus  •  8 mths ago
      Looking at the third paragraph, 120 hours is 71% of the week - that leaves architecture majors only 48 hours to do everything else!
    • Phocion  •  8 mths ago
      Maybe the Obama administration can adopt a new diversity regulation to be eligible for the BCS. X amount of pre med, engineering, accounting, agriculture etc.
    • Robert  •  8 mths ago
      At OSU they major in Tatoo.
    • MrBurnsPrankMonkey  •  8 mths ago
      Let's face the truth here folks. Most of the football players on scholarship are only there to play ball and try to get into the professional ranks. They attend class because they have to and most end up never graduating with any kind of degree once their eligibility is exhausted. The fact is that you really want a college education you'll find a way; otherwise you skate through and end up with nothing to show for 4-5 years but broken dreams and wasted opportunities.
    • Just A. Football Fan  •  8 mths ago
      I used to work in a University bookstore and when I had a break I would read the various textbooks for many of the different subjects that the University offered. I was blown away by how easy the business school books and specifically those geared towards general management were. I came to the very easy conclusion that business SHOULD be regarded as the worst major of all.
    • Redwing  •  8 mths ago
      What's the point of this article? I guess they're trying to tell us that college football players look for easy classes. There's a real revelation.
    • Keith  •  8 mths ago
      This has been true forever--athletes do not have the time and energy to pursue a difficult major--try studying after working out hard for four hours. That is why so many have BusAd degrees.
    • Mike H  •  8 mths ago
      Fast forward 5 years, when the playing days are over, and the kid with a full-ride shot at a better life is undrafted, unemployed, and stuck with a useless degree. No sympathy from me. Use athletic skill to pay for the education, rather than going to class because you 'have to be enrolled' to play...
      • GC 8 mths ago
        Which makes them different from any other college student only in that their useless degree was paid for by the school.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  8 mths ago
      i thought they all were Phys Ed majors
    • RandallF  •  8 mths ago
      Perhaps Criminal Justice should be a required subject in all colleges...:-)
    • Beowolfe  •  8 mths ago
      All of you people commenting on something that you know zero about. No facts, just rumors.
    • Covepeta  •  8 mths ago
      Most college athletes major in basketweaving...DUUH I can throw a football, knock around 300 lb linemen, and put a basketball in a hoop...but darned if I know what 2=2 is.
    • SnowCrash  •  8 mths ago
      "As an educator, my concern is: Are they getting a meaningful education?"Total #$%$ Universities charge students $100K+ for a piece of paper (diploma) and the right to say they are a graduate. A "meaningful education" is irrelevent. Get that paper that will get you hired, and learn on the job.
    • Sick of the Politics  •  8 mths ago
      Why not just let them major in "Athletics". Maybe teach them how to manage a professional sports career, how to stay healthy, and how to prepare for life after professional sports. Most BCS football players are hoping to make it to the NFL or other pro league (same goes for big-time NCAA D1 men's basketball players), which is just as legitimate an area of study as those majoring in Dance, Fine Arts, or Writing. They are all careers in which very few will be truly successful, and in which most will give up on their career within a few years of graduating because of the lack of opportunities, and the fact that only the top 1% can actually do it as a full-time job. Let them earn credits by playing their sport, and taking classes related to those sports. Teach them how unlikely it is that they will make it or be able to make a living doing their chosen career. They shouldn't be forced to major in Athletics, but it should be an option.
    • Gorgeous Devil  •  8 mths ago
      Most football players aren't too far from totally retarded. They should major in their ABC's.
    • Billy  •  8 mths ago
      Duhhh...I pay fubowl on da fubowl fiel.......wid a futbowl.
      • Greg A 8 mths ago
        ahh, no wat I sayin' man, like um you no my major be in, you no, studing busyness, you no.
      • Average Joe 8 mths ago
        Your spelling is actually too good!
    • John Smith  •  8 mths ago
      Just watch and listen to many college athletes being interviewed. Several are seniors in college. You would think they would have developed a better vocabulary by now!
    • True Infidel  •  8 mths ago
      If they don't have a minimum IQ of at least 110 why are they even allowed in college?
      • Danny 8 mths ago
        Hey dummy- the median IQ is 100. One standard deviation is about 15. This means 2/3 fo the general population falls within one SD. Sooo.... 1/6 of the population is below 85 and only 1/6 is above 115. So you think only one in six people (not even athletes) is "smart" enough to go to college? fool.
    • Andrew  •  8 mths ago
      This article is complete #$%$ NO student is doing 100-120 hours a week in Studio. That's 15+ hours a day, 7 days a week. GMAFB. I stopped reading the article right away as soon as i read that little nugget of hyperbole.
      • Bob 8 mths ago
        If you've been to a decent program, you know that 100 hours per week is typical.
      • JK 8 mths ago
        Actually I went through a program very similar to that architecture program, except mine was product design. We spent well over 100 hours a week in a studio all 4 years to finish out projects on time and with the expected level of professionalism that was required to pass yearly portfolio reviews. Design Studio Classes aren't for people who simply want to skate through college and be able to attend parties every weekend. Those people get kicked out after the first semester after they fail to turn in most of the work.
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