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    Big Ten exploring 4-team playoff

    The Big Ten, which helped squash the notion of a four-team playoff to crown a national champion in college football several years ago, is taking another look.

    BCS Executive Director Bill Hancock said Tuesday night that's good news.

    "Our process is working perfectly," Hancock said. "One of good things about our process is that there's no timetable so that a deliberate and thoughtful decision can be reached.

    "The tricky part is our 11 conference commissioners and the Notre Dame AD may have 12 different opinions about the direction we should go over the next six to eight months."

    Hancock, who still expects a conclusion in July, said the group of BCS decision-makers will meet again at the end of this month.

    Michigan State athletic director Mark Hollis said all of the Big Ten athletic directors are comfortable exploring the possibility of a four-team playoff.

    "Four is better than two," Hollis said.

    Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith agreed and said the discussions stem from feedback "that we need to do something different," especially after the recent BCS title game between LSU and Alabama drew lower ratings that other championship games.

    "The fans have been loud and clear," Smith said. "We also recognize that structurally there's things that we want to try and change with the bowl system — how teams get in the bowls. It's time to be curious about everything."

    The BCS title game pits the nation's top two teams based on poll and computer rankings. The Chicago Tribune reported Monday that one idea before the Big Ten calls for playing the two semifinal games on the campuses of the higher seeded teams, with the national championship held in a city awarded hosting rights — like the Super Bowl.

    The so-called plus-one format — two semifinals plus the title game — was proposed in 2008 by the commissioners of the Southeastern Conference and Atlantic Coast Conference. It was shot down by the leaders of the Big Ten, Pac-10, Big East, Big 12 and Notre Dame.

    "I am pleased to hear there is renewed interest in the plus-one format, the same format we introduced for consideration in 2008," SEC Commissioner Mike Slive said in a statement to the AP. "There are many details that need to be considered and it is premature to be campaigning for any particular plus-one model."

    The 11 Bowl Championship Series conferences have already met to discuss possible changes to the system starting in 2014. NCAA President Mark Emmert has said he supports a four-team championship playoff and is strongly against a 16-team format.

    Emmert has also said there has been talk of using a Final Four model, a scenario which could have matched LSU against Stanford and Alabama versus Oklahoma State this season, with the winners advancing to the title game.

    Despite the Big Ten's interest in a playoff, there is at least one big hurdle: The Rose Bowl, with its storied history to two of the nation's biggest conferences.

    "The Rose Bowl is extremely important to Michigan State just as it is to every school in the Big Ten and Pac-12," Hollis said. "There are more questions than answers about how any format would work, including where the games would be played and what the bowl-type experiences would be like in a championship format.

    "My eyes are always open to explore all opportunities, but I don't think we want to exceed 15 games."

    Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon, who is open to any option that includes keeping the conference and Pac-12 tied to the Rose Bowl, said he's not sure the plus-one model will please everybody.

    "I know a lot of people would love to see one more great football game, but I'm not sure this type of playoff will make it more fair," Brandon said. "At some point, you have to draw the line. With four teams, there will be controversies about who those four teams should be because it's usually not clear."

    Smith said there are too many bowl games, lagging ticket sales and teams are already playing "too deep into January" with players who happen to be students, too. He had reservations about a playoff where students play back to back games.

    Still, he said there was a need to discuss the format now.

    "This is the window of time before we go and do something with another partner, or current partner, we don't want to just do the same thing without trying to address some of those issues," he said. "But if we ended up with a plus-one playoff, it would be exciting for fans but there's a lot of issues around it."

    Hancock has said 50 to 60 possibilities for various changes were presented during a meeting in New Orleans, where Alabama beat LSU in the BCS title game last month.

    Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany, who declined comment Tuesday, has acknowledged he would consider the prospect of a four-team field.

    "Four years ago, five of us didn't want to have the conversation," Delany told reporters last month. "Now we all want to have the conversation."

    Asked about how the revenue from a playoff would be distributed, Smith noted that was a key issue.

    "You know, as we went into the BCS system and it was developed over time, the distribution of money changed over time, right?" he said. "What we need to do is if we end up there, that needs to be decided early. I agree with our commissioner that whatever we do it needs to in my view a longer-term deal as opposed to a shorter-term deal so we can lock these things in and give it a chance to work. That includes the distribution of the funds. But that has to be talked about."

    First-year Illinois athletic director Mike Thomas and Nebraska's Tom Osborne, whose school has been in the league for less than a year, both said they believe the champion will eventually be determined by a four-team playoff.

    "If you were able to develop a two-game, four-team scenario that would give the masses a feeling that we're getting a better sense of a true national champion, I think that's a good thing," Thomas said.

    Osborne noted that the NFL has its highest seeds play at home in the playoffs and doing the same thing in college would solve travel concerns for at least some of the fans.

    "I think if a team is ranked higher and has done better in the regular season, it makes some sense to play on their home field even though it may be a cold-weather environment and then play the championship game in a neutral site," Osborne said.

    But Osborne, who won three national championships as coach of the Huskers, knows no plan will satisfy everyone.

    "Everyone who looks at the plus-one model realizes that if you have four teams in play, you're still going to have the fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth teams saying we got a bad deal, we should be one of those four teams," he said. "So there'll be continual unrest until you have some kind of a much larger playoff."

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    AP Sports Writers Rusty Miller in Columbus, Ohio, Eric Olson in Omaha, Neb., and David Mercer in Champaign, Ill., contributed to this report.

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    Follow Larry Lage on Twitter at www.Twitter.com/larrylage

     

    30 comments

    • Cleatis Bagford  •  Apache Junction, Arizona  •  3 mths ago
      Why does Notre Dame have a say in this? They pursued thier own TV contract, are not with a conference and also are not relevant in the National Title race anymore.
      • Liza S. 3 mths ago
        I never got Notre Dame's entitlement that they seems to have.
      • m 3 mths ago
        Its money Notre Dame has 1 if not the biggest fan base of any college football team
    • MichaelP  •  King of Prussia, Pennsylvania  •  3 mths ago
      Funny how the FCS, Division II and Division II can all manage to have a play off system that works and decides a legitimate national champion, but the BCS is against it. C'mon people, you can still have all the sponsors and all the money and have play-offs.
      • xtombguard 3 mths ago
        Do you see bowl games in those divisions? Neither do I, which is why they've been able to have the playoff system. The money, did I say that loud enough, THE MONEY from all the sponsors of these bowls are truly a driving factor behind the bowl structure of Div-I football and has been for years...

        Div-IAA, Div-II and Div-III are the entertainment leading up to the bowl season.
    • Mike  •  Columbus, Ohio  •  3 mths ago
      "The so-called plus-one format — two semifinals plus the title game — was proposed in 2008 by the commissioners of the Southeastern Conference and Atlantic Coast Conference. It was shot down by the leaders of the Big Ten, Pac-10, Big East, Big 12 and Notre Dame."

      Then, everyone complained when the SEC got both spots this year. Karma.
      • Skid Rock 3 mths ago
        Who is everyone?
      • Wayne Turner 3 mths ago
        Everyone who is not a fan in the SEC
      • xtombguard 3 mths ago
        They cant all be great fans like us right Wayne...
    • Skid Rock  •  3 mths ago
      The BCS organization needs to be completely out of this conversation. If the Conferences decide to go with a 4 team playoff, or 8, or whatever, the BCS has no business being involved. They are not needed, and evrybody already knows the stuff they come up with makes nobody happy except the BCS Big Wigs. They had a chance and failed big time....
    • Ron  •  Oklahoma City, Oklahoma  •  3 mths ago
      I have said this before. How do you decide who the final four are? I'm sure No. 5 or 6 would be complaining. Play 10 games, eliminate conference playoffs, then have the winner of each conference go into a playoff for the championship. Pickup an independent to even out the number of teams to start the playoffs.
    • KAG  •  3 mths ago
      BCS sucks!! When a team that didn't win it's conference gets to play for a National Champion the system has been broken !!! Playoffs!!!! Either 16 or 8!!!! 4 is only a start!!!
      • 1st Amendment 3 mths ago
        The BCS is no worse then what it was before. Before the title game was chosen by writers and coaches with the AP poll
    • Herb  •  3 mths ago
      The most logical playoff system would be to include eight teams. Many years there
      are about that number who could actually win it all from the eighth spot. All of the major bowls
      could rotate the first round, semifinals and championship games yearly. Have the first
      round in mid-December, semis in late Dec., and Championship right after Jan. 1st. The
      BCS is only about money, not a legitimate crowning of a deserving champion, who
      got there on merit alone. And yes, there will be someone left out between the 8th
      and 9th ranking team, but all but two legitimate contenders were left out before.
      • KAG 3 mths ago
        16 is better!!
      • Herb 3 mths ago
        I agree that 16 is better, but I don't think there are enough prestigous bowls
        available to support 15 games, that's why I think 8 is more workable.
    • Tea Party  •  San Jose, California  •  3 mths ago
      The mighty dollar, or lack thereof from the latest BCS ratings debacle, is the driving force here and not the fans. Keep up the pressure on the BCS sponsors! PLAYOFFS NOW.
    • David  •  Denver, Colorado  •  3 mths ago
      I think this is a good start. We can't expect these greedy morons to open it up after years of saying it isn't possible. So this is a step in the right direction and hopefully over time more teams will be added.
    • Steve  •  St Clair Shores, Michigan  •  3 mths ago
      Eliminate the conference playoffs. Have the winners of the 4 BCS bowls go into the final 4 playoff.
    • BRIAN  •  Green Bay, Wisconsin  •  3 mths ago
      More Money....More Money....More Money. Thats what it's all about nowadays anyway.
    • The Professor  •  Frisco, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      I long for the day when the BCS winner is awarded by on field performance and not by relative based, arbitrary media and coach opinion. The farther you move away from gymnastic scoring (relative, bias, and subjective), the healthier the top college sport will become.
    • Chris in Sunnyside  •  Ellensburg, Washington  •  3 mths ago
      Reading between the lines here, the flimsy excuses about perserving the sancitity of the Rose Bowl or a 15 game season, are all #$%$ All they care about is the money.
    • Liza S.  •  3 mths ago
      Why is it that every professional sports, baseball, football, hockey, etc, have playoff yet college football does not. Even college basketball, baseball, etc have them. Oh yeah, it is about the money. There are already way too many bowl games that no one cares about. Use the other bowls as a playoff for a spot in a BCS bowl (Orange, Sugar, Rose, Fiesta) and the winners of the BSC game play each other, Orarge vs Sugar winner and Rose vs Fiesta winner, then the winner of those games goes for the BCS championship. What is there to think about. Have your conference winner and a wild card spot play in the playoff bowl games. If a team is not in a conference, Notre Dame, then they are not elligable to play in bowl game. Simple enough. Enough with making exception for Notre Dame.
    • ohbillsav  •  Warren, Ohio  •  3 mths ago
      One simple way to increase viewers of the National Title game,would be to play it on a SATURDAY NIGHT!,If this interfers with the NFL,then play it on FRIDAY NIGHT.This would be more condusive to peoples schedules.Partys would abound.!
    • Michael  •  Philadelphia, Pennsylvania  •  3 mths ago
      The southern schools would never in a million years agree to the prospect of playing a game up north that late in the year. Their players couldn't handle the cold and they would lose too much of their offensive playbook. They'll never agree to playing at northern venues.
    • longhorns247  •  Austin, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      The fans want a real tournament of at least 16 teams. The greed mongers need to get out of the way. I wont watch unless my team is in a game how the system is.
    • james  •  MacHesney Park, Illinois  •  3 mths ago
      southerns are week when it comes to the cold only the strong survive -20 week blood no heart
    • A Yahoo! User  •  3 mths ago
      this will create a 4 team supper tourney and make the bowls meaningless and then there will be more bowls such as the "cupcake bowl." I remember when going to a bowl game meant something.
    • W.  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  3 mths ago
      Regardless of the BCS whining this year, the top two teams did get to meet again and it was still a battle. Okie State got beat by Iowa State and they had no right to be in the championship game.
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