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    Army mulls pros and cons of French manicures, tattoos in revised grooming policy

    Uniform Policy, U.S. Army.The United States Army doesn't lack for challenges at the moment. Among the chief hurdles facing America's soldiers are grueling rounds of combat deployments, plans to withdraw from Iraq, projected budget cuts, and the integration of openly gay soldiers into the force since the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell earlier this year.

    And now you can add to the above list the always tricky question of how much and what kind of expressive flourishes the military will permit to soldiers in its ranks. Raymond Chandler, the sergeant major of the Army, tells Army Times correspondent Lance Bacon that in preparing updated Army regulations on grooming and appearance, he's taken to Facebook to debate the finer points of French manicures, earrings, pony tails, and tattoos for U.S. troops.

    "I believe that we can better visualize to the American people and the Army what it means to be an American soldier than we're doing now," Chandler told Army Times's Bacon. "Those can be done through personal grooming standards and standards of appearance and . . . the uniforms we wear and how we choose to wear them. I think we can do better. Now's the time to take a look at it."

    "I would assume there are going to be some changes," but "exactly what they are it's too early to tell," Chandler added.

    Chandler has taken to Facebook to get some initial feedback from the troops to possible proposed changes to the Army's regulations on personal grooming and appearance of uniforms. Among the measures he's pondering are more extensive regulations on tattoos and bans on French manicures.

    Among the nearly 400 comments he has so far received, many have opined that they "don't want to see so many tattoos," Bacon writes. "I think the tattoo policy is a little loose," Army Material Command Sgt. Maj. Ronald Riling told Bacon. "I don't like tattoos on the neck where they are visible. If they're not visible and they're covered up, I think that's a soldier's prerogative."

    And while some respondents said they didn't like seeing women soldiers wearing earrings, others wondered if the Army didn't have more pressing concerns.

    "How have we gone from debating whether women should be allowed into combat arms branches to if we should be able to wear earrings?" one unnamed female non-commissioned officer respondent replied on Facebook. "This is the United States Army, and there is no time for 'pretty' here. I am a female [non-commissioned officer] NCO and while I embrace my womanhood, the bottom line upfront is that ponytails, French manicures, earrings, etc., will not enhance my ability to train and lead soldiers . . . . Please don't empower me as a female, empower me as an NCO."

    But Chandler said the goal of the more detailed grooming guidance is "not only to bring change, but to add clarity," Bacon wrote. In a culture that has regulations for pretty much everything, grooming is not just about personal choice.

    "We've got a regulation that governs this," Chandler told Bacon. "It was last updated in 2005, and we've published 40 changes since then on the uniform. A basic part of the non-commissioned officer role is the uniform and the appearance of the soldier."

    One idea Chandler has to help soldiers stay more fully abreast of Army policies on grooming and uniforms is to centralize the information online.

    He has suggested launching a Wikipedia-style site that "is updated online and basically live." The material on the site will be updated "as changes to grooming and uniform standards are vetted," Bacon wrote--permitting the site to "immediately enter the reference material as text and visual aids" once new policies get promulgated. "Soldiers also would be notified when policies are updated," Bacon added.

    As for recent reports of some U.S. forces taking a shine to the art of eyebrow grooming practiced by barbers in Afghanistan? Chandler may be tempted to leave such decisions on that issue to his counterparts in the top brass of the Marines.

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    • pinkieluvzu  •  Phoenix, Arizona  •  4 mths ago
      I have been a part of the USCG for about a year now. Wearing earrings, having my nails done, and having tattoos do not change my work performance in any way, shape, or form. Not only did women have to prove themselves to men to even be able to join the military, now we are being told we can't look the slightest bit feminine? We have strict regulations for our grooming standards and I follow them well. Do not concern yourself with feminine grooming standards if your a male. I don't concern myself with mustaches....because I'm a woman!
    • Travelinman  •  6 mths ago
      I liked it better in the old days when all we had to worry about was each other's backs and doing our job.
      • Gary 6 mths ago
        In today's military, "watching each others backs" has a whole new meaning.
      • Jim 6 mths ago
        ha, nice post thanks for your service!!
      • wendy 6 mths ago
        Amen brother...
    • Rent To High  •  Dallas, United States  •  6 mths ago
      When I was in the Navy I had hair down to my rear end. It had to be put up while in uniform. We could not wear colored polish on finger nails only clear polish. We could not wear any earings except Navy silver posts. A watch an wedding ring an one ring on right hand. You had to be clean prim & proper while in Uniform. I was proud as Peacock in my Navy Uniform Dress Blues.
      • FIREINTHEHO 6 mths ago
        Times change like a tattoo in every port.
      • Kathy 6 mths ago
        WEIRDO
      • Rent To High 6 mths ago
        Kathy back at ya girl, says you don't mean its true. Ha ha ha to you jealous girl.
    • o  •  Atlanta, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Gunny Highway wouldn't allow any of this in his beloved Marine Corps!
      • A Yahoo! User 6 mths ago
        Nor would Chesty Puller! Semper Fi!!!
      • Justin 6 mths ago
        o no just marines stealing other marines wives and families as they are overseas, or thinking they have more power as they rank up but yet as a cpl in the corp i took down a sgt easily, o and yet the girls in the marine corp actually get treated nicely in mcmap, o and how about pt is a joke unless ur infantry based those guys i know work hard a lot, marines are not all that. not even all the infantry i seen some that wow should not have been their and of course u could always tell the ones that really are that great, like i said though i have nothing bad to say about the marine corp infantry at all they are the real marine corp, still though not saying they dont steal others wives.
      • Ben 6 mths ago
        No he wouldn't, he would get the Swede after them, I heard he is coming out of the brig.
    • A person who cares  •  Pleasanton, United States  •  6 mths ago
      While they serve, men, women, gays, lesbians, what-the-hell ever, while on duty, they should act, look like soldiers. I am a combat Veteran who served in Nam. We had some female soldiers then. With my experience you give a female a M-16 they will do their duty like anyone else. There will be no questions to ask. What anyone does off-duty, that's their business. Enough said.
      • Rhiannon 6 mths ago
        I agree. As long as they do their jobs while on duty, whatever they do off duty is their business.
      • Rory 6 mths ago
        Well said and much thanks to you for serving our country.
      • Bubba 6 mths ago
        Heh, brother..........I agree and give full support.........
    • brianl  •  Chandler, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Most of this isn't anything new for those who have been in the Military. It's been like this for the most part since I can remember. It's just that in today's sensitivity driven society, everything is now brought into question. NEWS FLASH ladies and gents, the Military is an organization you voluntarily agree to follow the rules and join, if you didn't like the rules then you shouldn't have decided to sign up!
      • Rory 6 mths ago
        So just because someone has tattoos they should'nt be aloud to join and serve there country (cause it looks bad) im sorry thats just childish. My buddy is a Lt Col for the USMC and he has plenty of tattoos id love to see someone explain to him how those effected his performance as a soilder.
      • crayfish 6 mths ago
        I agree with Dank!
      • DesertRat 6 mths ago
        G.A. ... Korean /Nam vet here. As I recall the last line in the UCMJ implied," At the digression of the CO". Personally... if they want to be billboards or beauty queens ... they should stay on the 'outside' where the competition is less.
    • mpartial  •  6 mths ago
      Short hair, clipped nails, and related grooming in the military is all about hygiene and discipline people...it's not a fashion show.
    • JD  •  7 mths ago
      35-10 states hair must be off the collar.
    • Empire of Dirt  •  Pleasanton, United States  •  6 mths ago
      that uniform and your comrades come first,leave your Individuality for when you get home safe and put civi's on again... then have at it.
    • Tilly  •  Fort Sill, United States  •  7 mths ago
      As a female Soldier, I do not see the need to have my nails done for work or my hair fashionable. That is stuff I save for the weekends and evening. I do everything that a normal woman would do off duty, but come Monday it is cleaned off and I standing in formation freezing or sweating with the males. Too many women before me and with have worked out tails off to be seen as an equal... I am not a female I am a pair of boots that can do the same work a male can do. I dont care what other's do in their off time as long as it doesnt carry over to the duty day or deployments.
    • Psyche  •  6 mths ago
      You join, you SERVE. You don't get to be an individual in the military. I don't want some fluff fluff worrying about her appearance when things get dangerous. You want dress up and play doll with yourself, DON'T SIGN UP.
    • G.A.  •  6 mths ago
      The Air Force policy - Air Force Instruction 36-2903, Dress and Personal Appearance, states "Excessive tattoos and brands will not be exposed or visible while in uniform." Excessive is defined as any tattoo/brands exceeding one-quarter of the exposed body part and those above the collarbone when wearing an open collar uniform. The AFI also outlines the current provisions and prohibitions to include standards governing piercings and body alterations.
    • andre  •  Nashville, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Currently being in the military...this is the wrong thing to be talking about right now. If we want to trim the fat, how about we chapter out all the people who can't pass a PT test or who are overweight. Women aren't even allowed to wear earrings now so why is that being discussed. Tattoos are a part of military history, especially the Navy. If you don't want people to join NOW with excessive tattoos, so be it. But good luck getting rid of all the Soldiers with tattoos showing. I'm a NCO and I never judge a book by its cover, I have Soldiers who are covered from head to toe in body art and some are the greatest Soldiers one could ask for. I also have Soldiers with no ink and are absolutely terrible Soldiers. You would be telling the country and Soldiers, "Yes, when we are at a time of war you can die for your country and put your life in harm's way. But, now that things are dying down we don't need you." Is that really the message you are trying to send?
    • G.A.  •  6 mths ago
      People who have not served generally don't understand that you give up many of your rights when you join the military. When I was in the Army I was told when I would go to bed, where I could and could not go, how my hair was to be worn. Unless you hav worn the uniform I don't really think you understand what it is really like. Shoot you even had to go get permission from your CO if you wanted to get married. A soldier is a G.I., ie government property so getting a tattoo means you are defacing govenrment property and can face charges under the UCMJ (military rules/aws book). Too many civilians that may sound silly but that is the way it is.
    • Mark  •  Kansas City, United States  •  7 mths ago
      Yeah, they need to spend more time with marksmanship training. Most graduate basic training and still fail to understand basic shooting priciples, shooting positions, clearing misfires, and keeping their weapons spotless!
    • MissLabeled  •  6 mths ago
      I think a good rule of thumb would be if you think, "I wonder if I'm allowed to..." then just don't.
    • Boomers  •  Madison, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Oh, please bring back the old days of the wonderful US Military, when men were men and women were women; they enlisted to do a job, with honor and integrity, and they were committed to that job. What a shame that men and women who still have those ethics have to deal with all the stupid other distractions of the PC crowds today.
    • Eva  •  Honolulu, United States  •  6 mths ago
      What French manicures and what ponytails?? These things are not allowed in the Army right now. I don't know what this article is talking about. When I was in the Army I was never allowed to have a French manicure or wear a ponytail, and I just got out in Feb.
    • BTO33  •  7 mths ago
      "Please don't empower me as a female, empower me as an NCO."

      WOW. WOW WOW WOW. It's is absolutely FANTASTIC to see someone who so completely and totally 'gets it'. Very impressive.
    • Melissa  •  Austin, United States  •  6 mths ago
      People seem to forget one important thing....you joined the US military...which means you are their property until your time is served. You KNEW this going into it and NOW you want to complain or change things. No one was drafted -- they enlisted. Accept that you are expected to fulfill the requirements of your JOB and everything that comes with it.
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