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    The Envoy

    Poll: 66 percent think American power has declined since 9/11

    Lt. Richard Rogers, a former stockbroker, conducts a presence patrol in Kabul, Afghanistan …A large majority of Americans believes the United States has spent too much in troops and treasure in the last decade responding to the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and that as a result, American economic strength and power abroad have declined, according to a new poll by the University of Maryland and the Program on International Public Attitudes.

    "Overall, two in three (66 percent) believe U.S. influence has diminished in the world over the last decade, and this view is highly correlated with the belief that the U.S. over-invested in responses to 9/11," wrote Shibley Telhami and Steven Kull, the poll's key architects,  in a summary of the key findings released on Thursday.

    The American public is showing "a little tiredness of the military option," Telhami, the Anwar Sadat professor at the University of Maryland and a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, told The Envoy Thursday. That's reflected, he said, "in the degree to which they support the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq and Afghanistan."

    A majority of those polled--57 percent--said they still support the decision to go to war in Afghanistan, but half of the respondents--50 percent--say they now believe the United States has invested too much.

    "At this point a large majority--73 percent--wants the U.S. to reduce the number of troops in Afghanistan, but less than half want them to be withdrawn completely," Telhami and Kull wrote.

    President Obama's strategy on Afghanistan wins wide support from Democrats as well as Republicans, the poll found. "When asked what they think of the Obama administration's strategic choice to try to strengthen the Afghan army while reducing U.S. forces and attempting negotiations with the Taliban, a very large majority--69 percent--approves," Telhami and Kull wrote. Sixty percent of Republicans approve, along with 62 percent of independents, and 83 percent of Democrats.

    On the issue of the war in Iraq, however, the American public remains far more divided.

    A slight majority--55 percent--said too many resources have been spent in the Iraq war, but 45 percent said the decision to invade Iraq was the right decision, while slightly more--49 percent--said the Iraq war was a mistake.

    "While 66 percent of Republicans thought the war was the right decision, only 31 percent of Democrats and 38 percent of independents agreed," Telhami and Kull wrote. "Similarly, 69 percent of Republicans thought going to war in Iraq helped the American effort against international terrorism, while 35 percent of Democrats and 40 percent of independents agreed."

    The poll was conducted from Aug. 19 to Aug. 25 with a sample of 957 adult Americans. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.2 percentage points.

     

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    • David of Prophet Yi  •  8 mths ago
      2011년 8월 27일과 8월 28일 상상을 초월을 하는 형벌들의 재앙들과 재난들 속에 (한국과 미국에 내려지고 있는 지진들과 홍수 그리고 허리케인과 토네이도 또한 산불과 폭우 그리고 태풍과 전염병, 구제역, 바이러스, AI, 신종플루, 질병들, 폭염, 스나미, 화산 폭팔, 그리고 분수에 넘고 상상을 초월을 하는 악질에 범죄들과 범행들을 계획적으로 저질러 오고 있는 죄악들에 비교도 되지 않게 내려지고 있는 악재들과 저주의 악들의 재앙들과 재난들, 보복들, 기타 등) 더 악질에 살인학살의 학대와 혈압을 올리는 고문들 그리고 강탈들과 파괴들은 물론이고 가정파괴와 상상을 초월을 하는 생체실험의 살인학살들을 범죄은닉과 범행들을 위한 모르쇠와 거짓조작의 범행의 방송들과 설교들을 내보내며 신과 신의 종이신 프로펫 이 정연 , Prophet Yi , David of JESUS 님과 가족들에게 저지르고 있는대로 바로 더 잔인하게 내려지고 있는 형벌들의 재앙들과 재난들이다.

      18년 전에 한국과 미국의 목사와 전도사라는 살인학살자 년들과 놈들 그리고 각 tv와 라디오 방송국의 프로듀서와 제작진들 그리고 연예인들과 MC 또한 아나운서들과 앵커들 그리고 정치인들과 대통령들 또한 기자들과 방송국들의 살인학살 강도의 년들과 놈들이 미국의 살인학살자 년들과 놈들을 그대로 흉내를 내며 압부를 떨고 직권남용의 국가보안법들로 24시간 교대로 저질러 오고 있는 살인학살의 만행들의 범죄들과 범행들이다.

      안기부 x파일과 국정원 x파일에 관한 근거의 뉴스 기사들을 확인들을 해 보면 쉽게 이해가 갈 것이다.

      18년 전, 1994년 10월과 1995년 초에 (면목동, 남양주, 일산 건영 아파트, 수유리) 24시간 살인학살의 고문들과 강탈들 그리고 파괴들을 저지르며 기독교 라디오 방송국의 주파수를 하나 따로 내어서 24시간 살인학살의 강도의 만행들의 범죄들과 범행들을 저지르며 성경의 말씀들을 악용들을 하여서 거짓들과 모함들의 조작들로 범행의 방송들을 내 보내며 자신들의 상상을 초월을 하는 살인학살의 강도의 짓들과 범죄들 그리고 범행들을 숨기고 완전범죄를 저지른다고 하며 감히 신의 종이신 프로펫 이 님을 미쳤다고 하며 마귀가 씌었다고 하는 저질에 악질에 범행의 방송들을 내 보내고 나중에는 MBC FM 라디오 팝송 프로그램에 목사라고 하는 남자 놈이 기어 나와서 ‘신의 종인 프로펫 이 님을 도와 주려고 했는데 이제는 어쩔 수가 없다’며 거짓의 조작들로 합리화를 시키며 숨어서 24시간 살인학살의 고문들과 테러들 그리고 강탈들과 파괴들은 물론이고 생체실험들을 저질러 오고 있다.

      KBS 1 한국 방송국 ‘아침 마당’ 프로그램에 진행을 맡고 있던 이상벽이라는 살인학살자 놈이 프로그램 진행 중에 연예인들을 모아 놓고 ‘미국에서는 존경을 받고 엄청난 존재인 프로펫 이 가 한국에서 저렇게 미쳐서 돌아 있으니 .... 쯪쯪쯪’ 라는 아가리를 두서도 없이 끼어 넣기 방송식으로 지껄이고 아는 사람들이 그렇게 생각을 하도록 유도를 했다.
      지금 그 근거의 방송 프로그램들을 숨기기 위해서 악법인 방송법 중에 3개월 지난 것은 파기를 하고 없앤다는 말도 안되는 아가리를 지껄이며 일반 사람들에게 공개를 하지 않고 있다. 이승만 정권 전부터인 일제시대 부터 기록 자료들이 넘쳐나는 상황에서 말이다.

      24시간 교대로 살인학살의 학대와 혈압을 올리는 고문들을 잔인하게 저지르며 자칭 목사라고 하는 미국의 밑바닥의 양갈보도 못되는 안달을 치는 저질에 한국의 사형수 놈이 성경의 말씀들을 악용들을 해가며 갖은 조작의 범죄들과 범행들로도 모자라서 나중에는 자신들의 살인학살의 범죄들과 범행들이 신의 뜻이라는 악질에 아가리를 지껄이고 살인학살의 고문들과 범죄들을 저지르고 있는 년들 그리고 놈들과 같이 우리 함께 기도를 합시다 해가며 예수님의 이름으로 아멘 이라는 범행들을 살인학살의 주파수 무기로 감히 신의 종이신 프로펫 이 님을 우롱을 하며 내 보냈다. (1995년 일산 건영 아파트)

      CBS와 극동아세아 기독교 라디오 방송국의 살인학살자 년들 그리고 놈들과 같이 (프로듀서, 제작진, MC, 프로그램 진행자, 행정직원, 목사, 전도사, 기자, 아나운서, 앵커, 집사, 크리스찬, 장로, 특히 방송국 밑바닥에서 출세를 한다고 하며 나이도 어린 것이 악질에 살인학살의 만행들을 24시간 저질러 오고 있는 한국 암컷 년 1마리 그리고 모조리 다) 24시간 교대의 살인학살의 강탈과 파괴들의 범행들과 범죄들을 밑바닥의 미국의 살인학살자 년들 그리고 놈들에게 아부를 떨며 저지르고 미국과 한국의 살인학살자 년들 그리고 놈들이 같이 악질에 살인학살의 범죄들과 범행들을 의논들을 해가며 ‘우리가 프로펫 이 政演 , Prophet Yi , David of JESUS 에게 지불을 해야만 하는 돈들이 많으며 진실이 밝혀지고 걸리게 되면 우리는 모조리 다 끝장이니, 이러한 상황에서도 신의 말씀대로 어려운 사람들을 돕는다고 하고 있는 “프로펫 이“와 그의 가족들을 더 잔인하게 찢어서 발겨 죽이며 그 돈들로 밑바닥의 악질에 살인자 년들과 놈들을 고용을 하여서 출세를 시켜주며 완전범죄로 더럽고 잔인하게 학살을 해서 완전범죄로 죽이자! 그러면 우리는 우리의 죄악에서 벗어 날 것이며 우리가 프로펫 이 에게 지불을 해야만 하는 돈들은 없어지는 것이며 오로지 강탈과 파괴들을 하며 신의 종이라고 하는 프로펫 이를 우리가 원하는 대로 개와 돼지보다 못하게 학대해서 가지고 놀며 악하게 이용을 하여서 사용을 하고 지옥에 비교도 안되는 학대와 학살의 억울함들의 고통들 속에 미치게 하여서 악질로 학살해서 죽이면 일거양득이다.’ 라고 하며 미국과 한국의 살인학살자 년들 그리고 놈들이 같이 가장 밑바닥의 한국의 살인학살자 년들과 놈들을 고용들을 하고 살인학살의 학대와 혈압을 올리는 고문들을 교육까지 시키며 18년이 넘는 지금까지 24시간 3시간 간격의 교대로 살인학살의 만행들의 범죄들과 범행들을 저질러 오고 있다. 그것들이 바로 내가 말을 하고 있는 자칭 ‘망원’ (Mang Won) 들이다.
    • Tina  •  8 mths ago
      Here is a prophecy 4 U.
      Can U Find the Mushrooms for EVIL Man?
      NYC GETS NUKED
      As John Wayne would say –
      Satan is bringin in his BIG GUNS NOW.
      Preseason IS OVER.
      NYC GETS NUKED
      Flash Picture the cloud for the demons as usual.
      Ho hum
      U have been bad Wall Alley and U GET SPANKED
      As your Reward.
      EVIL Man does not go too far in 2011, 201x, 201.
    • Paul  •  8 mths ago
      put em in camps
    • jamie  •  8 mths ago
      You people who think we are weak are delusional and truely most of what i have read forgot what happen on 9/11 all i can say if you got so many problems with america get the hell out we dont want you here or need you.
      • Don W 8 mths ago
        They will never leave Jamie, I'm still trying to fill that plane.
      • jamie 8 mths ago
        lol
      • American Patriot 8 mths ago
        Hey Don, I'll take 4 tickets for me and my liberal family to Perth so I won't have to vomit over the thought that you're a fellow countryman.
    • steven  •  8 mths ago
      People are stupid and are not ready to handle any truth so why ask em questions on what they think,most of em dont even know what theyre doin in an hour,waste of time!
      • Nonpoliticallycorrect 8 mths ago
        And I guess you're a genius right?
      • Halco 8 mths ago
        Amazing, twenty two and so very wise !!
      • pplRfat 8 mths ago
        I plan on taking a piss here shortly.
    • robertg  •  8 mths ago
      I I was in the military with breaks since Vietnam to the First Gulf War. This constant war mentality has caused us nothing but blood, money, respectability and for all you Right Wingers out there - a deterioration of our Constitution. Even though I could be classified as a Left Wing Democrat Progressive - that is where I part company with Mr. Obama. Obama makes the same stupid mistakes that all our Presidents GOP or Dem keep making - they willingly forget the fact that America has no mandate to change the world - it is America's duty to be an EXAMPLE to the world. That is where this country keeps screwing up. You don't teach Democracy at the point of a bayonet - the lesson never takes. The 4 year tour I had at the Pentagon under Reagan taught me exactly what is wrong with American Foreign Policy. This idea that we are so superior, so moral - that the quality of our life is so much better - that we are prettier - sweeter and just all-around gosh darn wonderful is a load of crap. And this is the attitude that we have polluted the planet with.

      At the end of WWII we were loved by the world - not just because we were one of the victors, but because people around the planet looked to us as the hope of the planet for Freedom and Creativity and Tolerance. They saw us fight Facism, they saw how industry and the government came together to help their people out of a world wide economic depression and they go on to help defeat Tojo and Hitler. And yes, there was much injustice in our society against Native Americans, and other people of color - but even with they the world saw that we had good and decent people that were begining to stand up and lend a hand to fight those injustices. So by and large America was the world's Good Guy.

      However, we allowed a certain Hubris to make us think that we could best direct the affairs of the world, plus we allowed to many people in Corporate America to confuse their bottom lione with patriotism. As a result - we too often came down on the side of former Colonial Masters and the wealthy part of countries in Africa, Asia and Latin America - we began to undue the good image that the world had of us - which is one of the main reasons why are policies are hated through so much of the Middle East and Latin America.

      9-11 was a tragedy - and one that we here in New York will have nightmares about, but knowing the Pentagon and the State Department from the inside as I do - I must be honest to my country and say that - I pray to God that we don't find out someday that 9-11 was something that didn't happen out of the clear blue and that it was done in reaction to some foreign policy initiative that some smart ass in DoD or State Department came up with - in Intelligence it's called "Blow Back".
      • Kristin 8 mths ago
        Excellent perspective, Robertg. You make some very good points. Thank you for your service, by the way. :)
      • muxz 8 mths ago
        Whoever put a thumbs down on this is a straight up loser. Great post, sir.
      • Kevin 8 mths ago
        yeah? but we're cool as hell still.
        http://news.yahoo.com/world-still-thinks-americans-coolest-poll-120048216.html
    • ErnieA  •  8 mths ago
      Yeah, I'm already seeing speaking chinese as a requirement for jobs. This is just not right, this is America #$%$ it!
      • Ikaria 8 mths ago
        Baloney. Get rid of your hate and fear! If you want to fear somene fear the American Taliban Tea Party.
      • Anonymous 8 mths ago
        Why are you mad? I learned Spanish to help out my patients and it wasn't that hard to do. It just takes some effort and a willingness to learn. Besides, speaking another language is kind of fun to do once you get the hang of it. Studies also show that it helps prevent Alzheimer.
      • Wong Fei Hung 8 mths ago
        and to think back then it was going to be Spanish, how the world has changed....
    • ErnieA  •  8 mths ago
      Whether what Obama left on the table runs against our grain or not, it's at least something we can bite on to, and we can fix the politics later. We need to get something going now because we really don't have much time. Congress needs to make a move (a tweek here and a bang there) or feel the wrath of the majority of Americans.
    • David  •  8 mths ago
      Since 9/11 the US standing in the world has deteriorated considerably . Seeking to stamp out terrorism comes across as blind fury and revenge . Wars in Afganistan and Iraq have been ill coceived disasters . The United States has turned from being the Good Guys to being the Bad Guys around the world .
    • StephenL  •  8 mths ago
      In this War, like in previous Korean War and Vietnam War, tactically and militarily, US prevails; but strategically, Al Quaeda, as Osama had stated in his speech after 911, they successed dragging US down by bleeding the US economy, with very low budget versus trillions of US war budget.
      Time to cut losses and come back to gather more strength before relaunching the fight with different strategies.
    • Your worst nightmare  •  8 mths ago
      I've said this before,the Russians were in Afghanistan for ten years and got their rears handed to them and we think we can do better! Guess not, been there for 10 years and no where closer than the Russians got. When is Washington ever going to get it thru their thick heads it doesn't mean our way is better. I say just make the area a nice and quite area for the nect 20 years and problems solved and no troops lost! By the way get out troops home and put them on the border and trane down there!
    • ICY69HOT  •  8 mths ago
      Of course we have declined, fighting war's on basicly 3 fronts means greater losses, more stress on the troops and greater misdirection in the battle field. Time to leave the middle east theater, come home lick our wounds, secure our borders both north and south. Correct the internal problems we currentlly face like excessive gangs within our cities, too many illegals taking American jobs and our roads could use repairs so the constrution battalions can practice by working on American bridge's and highways.
    • Russell M  •  8 mths ago
      Those countries have been fighting for thousands of years and will never stop,bring our troops home and lock down the borders
    • Hardhead  •  8 mths ago
      It's ironic when I hear people say that 9/11 didn't change our way of life. I guess those people have never took a flight before and after 9/11, the country as a whole live in constant fear, the economy in is down to its knee, welfare benefits have been cut, million are unemployed, our patriotism has increased so do our disdain toward some minorities, the government can barely pay its bills. All those changes are the shock waves of 9/11.
    • Gabriel D  •  8 mths ago
      we need to re-enter a period of isolationism like before pearl harbor. Build things within. Create jobs here. Stop Chinese imports. Build iPhones here. To hell with the UN. When I call At&t tech support, I dot want an Indian who chooses different caucasian names every time he answers the phone.
    • Mensa Steve  •  8 mths ago
      Our enemies here and abroad think we shouldn't have tried so hard to go after the terrorists for what they did to us on 9/11; so says Telhami, the Anwar Sadat professor. Nuke 'um!!!
    • jlucky  •  8 mths ago
      Recalculate the margin of error. Study stats and/or talk the people I know. History will show the truth. Please let me know 50 years from now if the libs were correct.
    • CEDRIC  •  8 mths ago
      Our power has not changed. If we use it we are still a super power and the entire world knows it. So don't get it bent you guys just do a lot of talking and don't know anything. Play into the hands of the media. They love people like you. Clueless.
    • johnsmith  •  8 mths ago
      The New Wold Order will certainly take us down. It is happeneing ON PURPOSE by the people that want a global government under the UN. Don't believe it? Google "a new world order defined".
    • humpy  •  8 mths ago
      shoot first ask questions later does have consequences. we started 2 wars out of anger and now were left holding the bag of #$%$ maybe we should think before we act. seriously, what did everyone expect? and we finally got the devil himself. shot in the head. what did that accomplish? were still holding the bag folks.
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