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    Big banks paying major bucks to settle fraud charges — so where does the money go?

    Citigroup CEO Vikram Pandit. AP Photo/Mary AltafferMajor Wall Street banks are handing over some hefty sums to settle charges that they misled investors about those exotic mortgage deals that helped nearly topple the financial system.

    Citi is the latest to pay up. The Securities and Exchange Commission announced Wednesday that the mega-bank will part with $285 million to settle allegations that it fleeced investors by selling them on a complex mortgage product it was secretly betting against. (In an email uncovered by investigators, one Citi trader described the investment as "dogsh!t.")

    Citi isn't alone. In July 2010, Goldman Sachs agreed to pay $550 million to settle SEC accusations that it pulled similar shenanigans with a structured financial product. J.P. Morgan Chase, whose CEO, Jamie Dimon, has complained long and hard about regulatory costs in June, paid $153.6 million, to settle similar SEC charges. In all, the SEC says it has recovered more than $1 billion (pdf) from financial companies over misconduct that occurred in the period leading up to or during the 2008 crisis.

    Which raises an interesting question: What happens to all that money?

    The short answer is: It depends. In some cases, the money is returned to the investors who were victimized. In others, it's given back to taxpayers via the U.S. Treasury's general fund -- just like most tax revenue. And in many cases, it's a combination of the two.

    The split usually depends on several factors: A fund for victimized investors -- known as a "fair fund" -- is set up through an elaborate court process, so it comes with significant administrative costs. That means the amount at issue has to be large enough to make it worth doing. And the victims, of course, need to be easily identifiable.

    In the Citigroup deal, which still needs to be approved by a judge, the SEC has said that the full $285 million will be returned to investors through a fair fund. The sum represents $160 million alleged to have been unfairly taken, plus $30 million in interest, and a $95 million penalty.

    In Goldman's case, harmed investors got $250 million, while $300 million went back to the U.S. Treasury. In J.P. Morgan's, $125.87 million went to investors, and Treasury received $27.73 million.

    These settlements from the big banks' recent financial misconduct won't significantly cut into the multi-trillion dollar national debt. But given that the havoc wreaked by Wall Street affected Americans who had never even heard of a collateralized debt obligation, it seems only fitting that taxpayers should be among those who benefit from the deals.

     
    • aries31  •  Bangkok, Thailand  •  4 mths ago
      The massive fraud by these Bankers virtually ruined the world economies and they all are still struggling under massive debts-thabnks to these US fraudsters. Millions of innocent citizens have suffered and are still suffering in tent houses on roadside . No American seems to care . They are allowing talks of settlement!!! How dare?
      Spooner Americans will start "settlements" with all criminals who defrauded them- looks like. So this is the American way of delivering justice. I want the international financial community who are the victims of this American fraud to file series of cases in the International Court of justice and send all these fraudsters for an indefinite jail term and confiscation of all their assets .
    • Mike  •  7 mths ago
      Shouldn't someone be going to jail?
      • nickatdabeach 7 mths ago
        bwarney frank, chris dodd and Fed chairmen Greenspan & Bernanke FOR STARTERS
      • Norton 7 mths ago
        Yes Obama and all other politicians in DC
      • ghost 7 mths ago
        don't forget bush he played a part in it but of course that won't be able to be dug up
    • Say it like you see it  •  San Antonio, United States  •  7 mths ago
      OK, so where are the felony charges and the jail sentences? Oh I forgot, our elected might not get their campaign contributions if they do that!
      • John C 7 mths ago
        The bad news is they did not break the law, therefor no felony charges or jail. Not saying what they did was good.
      • A. Opinion 7 mths ago
        Many homeowners committed mortgage fraud by lying about their income. None of them are going to jail either.
      • VinceM 7 mths ago
        Actually the reason no criminal charges were filed is that it is easier to convict in civil court then in criminal court saving the tax payer money, I think the settlements are way too small but I am satisfied that they had to pay. I really think these big banks need to be broken up so they don't fail again. But that is up to The Aristocrats who are out to destroy this country and make it into a third wold country so they don't have to pay living wages.
    • Dante_Inferno  •  7 mths ago
      This is peanuts compared to what they should be paying out.
    • Len  •  7 mths ago
      I don't think the American people would take another bail out if things got bad again it would be a call to arms
      • Lili Rolda 7 mths ago
        YES, INDEED Len we should fight like the Libyians, but with a justify reasons, we had lost our pensions and the younger have not future pensions, because Bush and Obama that keep those solder there too long, until it was time for elections.
        Those crooks politicians really think we are bind or rather so stupid that we are not able to see their corruption mind of them
      • A Yahoo! User 7 mths ago
        many are in the streets already.
    • h4x354x0r  •  7 mths ago
      Big bucks? The fines amount to tiny fractions of the money they made off the scams. The Goldman Sachs $550M fine? It amounts to .02% (two one hundredths of one percent) of the amount they actually made off the scam.

      If only everyone's taxes were so low. Why is fraud taxed at such a low rate?
    • A Yahoo! User  •  Reno, United States  •  7 mths ago
      They should JAIL ALL the EXECUTIVES who OK'D ALL THE RIPOFFS.
      • Lili Rolda 7 mths ago
        Reno, we the citizen should be able to lock or hang the power most from their balls on a tree, they are worse thieves, if the were able to collect some of that billions from those wall street thefts, the government should return it to all us, not to his fish friends.
      • s 7 mths ago
        Don't know if Jailing the Execs helps...just adds taxpayer costs -- They should have a serious portion of their holdings (including mansions, vacation homes, etc.) confiscated and returned to investors and/or to Treasury (as refunds to taxpayers as a whole). Not just Execs either -- add the salesmen who knew they were crummy investments.
      • jane 7 mths ago
        Who's going to enforce that?
    • Say it like you see it  •  San Antonio, United States  •  7 mths ago
      When you get right down to it, not only should these bankers be going to jail, but some of our politicians and anti-trust regulators should also be going to jail. Maybe even to the gallows! After all, they are being treasoness to this nation.
      • ron citrino 7 mths ago
        'bout time some one else said public hanging besides me
    • dmp  •  Beaverton, United States  •  7 mths ago
      I AM SO SICK OF THIS GARBAGE!!! WHEN WILL WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS??? EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD BE AT THE WHITE HOUSE DOOR DEMANDING THAT EVERY POLITICIAN STEP DOWN - When are we going to start monitoring things better? If every loan from the government had to be audited by the private accounting companies and paid for by those large corporations getting the loans, then maybe this would be caught long before it is to late! Yes, when it comes to politicians and large banks and corporations policing IS necessary. Now that would create new jobs!
    • algodude  •  7 mths ago
      Yet another slap on the hand. To curb behavior, the decision makers in question need to go to jail
    • Jay  •  Milwaukee, United States  •  7 mths ago
      These settlements should be billions, not millions for all the harm they did to the economy and to people in all walks of life.
    • steven  •  New York, United States  •  7 mths ago
      A few hundred million here and there is a drop in the ocean compared to the damage these banks caused the economy. I agree with the other posters - there should be more of these Wall Street dudes going to jail.
    • Joe  •  7 mths ago
      the CEOs of these companies should be in jail. at the very least they should have all lost their jobs with no chance of ever getting a similar job.
    • ~Don~  •  Houston, United States  •  7 mths ago
      Politicians pockets,,,,at a time when the country is struggling Congress vote themselves raises
    • GARY  •  Pleasanton, United States  •  7 mths ago
      The delay in agreeing to make the settlements was caused by the need for the banks to first come up with a string of new fees to cover the cost. The fees will, of course, be high enough to cover the cost, AND add to the profits of the bank........ of that you can be sure.
    • Durga  •  7 mths ago
      Corporates are Citizens! They should pay a hefty fine and all executives including the board do some jail time, just like any other citizens who commit a fraud.
    • Brian B  •  Madison, United States  •  7 mths ago
      If a corporation has the same rights as a citizen, according the the Supreme Court, then it should also have the same consequences.
    • Rex  •  7 mths ago
      THis is a joke. Why is the SEC allowing them just to have a payout? I cancelled my citi bank, bank of america card, and transferred my stock from goldman sac. You all should do the same too!!
    • djhowe  •  Plattsburgh, United States  •  7 mths ago
      BIG BUCKS??? Their fraud was in the multi-trillions, 285 million is like making them pay taxes on not even a full portion of the money they swindled from people, way to spin it Yahoo!
    • LifeSaver  •  7 mths ago
      So what else is new?
      This country will get back on it's feet again only when we elect people that care about this country AND well being. It's not looking good for 2012. All of them are charlatons.
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