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    Citing deficit, ratings agency downgrades U.S. credit

    Charles Dharapak, File/APDespite the ongoing possibility that Congress and the Obama administration won't come to a deal to raise the U.S. debt ceiling, the major ratings agencies have so far refrained from downgrading the country's credit rating.

    True, both Moody's and Standard and Poor's warned last week that they're considering doing so, thanks to the possibility that a failure to raise the debt limit could trigger a massive government default by early August. But at this point, neither has acted.

    Still, neither of those two agencies has the best track record of late. Both played a key role in the events that led to the financial crisis, by continuing to slap AAA ratings on subprime-mortgage-backed securities, even long after it became clear to many that they were junk.

    A less prominent agency, Egan-Jones Ratings, largely avoided buying into the subprime madness. That might be because it's not paid by the Wall Street banks whose securities it's rating; instead it collects fees from investors who need accurate assessments, so it has more of an incentive to get things right.

    And wouldn't you know it? Egan-Jones announced yesterday that it had downgraded the U.S. debt rating, from AAA to AA+.

    The firm made it clear that its decision wasn't prompted primarily by the immediate fear of a default caused by a failure to raise the debt limit. Rather, Egan-Jones officials explained the downgrade arose out of the related concern that Washington won't reduce the long-term deficit. "The major factor driving credit quality is the relatively high level of debt and the difficulty in significantly cutting spending," the firm said in a report released Saturday.

    In an interview with The Lookout, Sean Egan, the firm's president, elaborated on that view. Egan brought up the situation of a homeowner who goes on vacation and forgets to make his monthly mortgage payment. In that case, "the mortgage company won't declare you in default," he said. "They'll charge you a fee and expect you to pay on return."

    But, he continued, "it's a different case than if your ability to pay is significantly diminished."

    The first scenario, he said, is how the firm views the debt ceiling issue--"akin to a delinquency that will soon be rectified." The second scenario corresponds to the long-term deficit problem, Egan said.

    Egan said that since the firm first put the U.S. rating under review back in March, it had been looking for reassurance that Washington was getting the deficit problem under control. On that score, he said, "we have yet to receive comfort."

    The downgrade won't have a major impact on the financial markets. But it's another sign that investors are growing increasingly spooked about the political system's apparent inability to address the country's fiscal situation.

     

    394 comments

    • Harry  •  10 mths ago
      If the US was fairly rated by Equifax, Trans-Union, or Experian, it would have a Credit Rating of around 590. It could not even buy a home.
      • lumkay 10 mths ago
        right on!!!!
      • Matt 10 mths ago
        Wow, I haven't thought about it that way. You're definitely correct though.
      • shelia 10 mths ago
        I agree with that assessment.
    • Sciurus  •  10 mths ago
      Make lobbying a felony. Really.
      Government will not represent the wishes of the people as long as bribery is legal.
      • Calvin 10 mths ago
        Trouble is Lobbying is protected by the Constitution. Why don't the Repukes make an Amendment for that instead of the stupid balanced budget Amendment that won't pass?
      • Max Oz 10 mths ago
        Carefull what you wish for.
      • Donald 10 mths ago
        Where in the constitution does it give the right to bribe senators? I missed that one.
    • Brian  •  10 mths ago
      Our politicians couldn't ruin America faster if they tried! Both Republicans and Democrats are to blame. No longer are we for the people, we are for our party. If the GOP try to pass a bill that will help the American people, then the Dems will trash it. Conversely, if the Dems try to pass a bill that is good for Americans then the GOP will trash it. It is no wonder that nothing is getting done in Washington.

      As our government bickers and borrows money, China has lifted over 500 million people out of poverty, loaned us about $1 Trillion, and is building one of the most advanced public infrastructure system in the world from scratch. Here we are borrowing money like a college student from his parents, losing jobs, our infrastructure is crumbling, and trying to police the world. We need to take control back from these lawyers (Most all politicians are) that run our country!
      • JeffC 10 mths ago
        you may want to rethink that China love ...
        and please point to a debt ceiling bill that the GOP has trashed ?
      • yahoo user 10 mths ago
        GOP try to pass a bill that will help the American people?
        Name one.
      • william 10 mths ago
        Name one tax bill that Oboma has authored that passed.
        His was 97-0 against it, dumb leader if you ask me!
    • Frank  •  10 mths ago
      America had its run, now like rome, we're just History. Thanks to GREEDY POLITICIANS.
      • Max Oz 10 mths ago
        And the people that voted them in! Over and Over and Over Again.
    • XFile  •  10 mths ago
      Forget the $46,553 for each citizen's share of the national debt - the debt should be paid off by the ones who caused it - the politicians and their spending/pork/lobbyists/. Every one of them should lose their job and pensions/healthcare for not doing their duty to their country. The only duty they did was to people who gave them money or could help them.
      • Joe 10 mths ago
        We elected them so we share the blame
      • Justin 10 mths ago
        um each share from what I heard would be about 300,000 dollars! Not 46000. Just sayin!
    • John M.  •  10 mths ago
      The blame falls upon the American people who put some of these politicians in office. We have gone decades without requiring accountibility for their irresponsible actions. Our political system is severely broken and we have allowed it to happen. We really have two distinct "countries," Democrat and Republican, who do everything necessary to remain in office. Now we need to get back to "American" first and do what is necessary to take back our country. The reality is that our political system has been severely broken for decades and "We the People" have allowed it to happen. The United States will continue its downward spiral like all other great nations if we do nothing to really change the partisan political system.
    • anthonyc  •  10 mths ago
      Both political parties, its members, and leaders, past, present, and future are too blame for this domestic manufactured political and fiscal crisis plaguing our great country today!!!
    • Michael  •  10 mths ago
      "the political system's apparent inability to address the country's fiscal situation."

      They have the ability, just not the desire. This bunch of overpaid, egotistic schoolyard bullies are busy playing "Chicken" with each other while the entire world economic system goes down the tube.
    • Walter Sobchak  •  10 mths ago
      Perhaps the US could afford to pay its creditors if it were not allowing the banks to borrow CHEAP money from the FED only to turnaround and "LEND" that money to the Treasury.

      God Help us.
    • anthonyc  •  10 mths ago
      America, was once a great country, unitl the corrupt politicans, and businessmen and corporations destroyed her!!!
    • Fred  •  10 mths ago
      Here is how hard this is: Go to the last Clinton (R Congress) budget, dust it off, and sign it into law. We run a projected surplus the next day. Why? Spending has doubled
    • Impeach Obama  •  10 mths ago
      Stop sending US tax dollars, which are supposed to go to benefit the US citizens, to Foreign lands in the support of wars, and Aid. Stop It ! That money needs to spent on the citizens of the US and not to police the world for those who cannot afford to do it themselves.

      Politicians, STOP spending the citizens' money on your 'agendas' in other countries! Take care of Americans first and foremost. We put you in office, now take care of us.
    • netserfernick  •  10 mths ago
      go figure....... If my Government cant do its #$%$ job, it needs to stop taking my TAX money. Maybe we should ALL just refuse to pay TAXES until these SOBs do their job.
    • Jack  •  10 mths ago
      AMERICA FIRST is the road home to economic stability...our leaders seem to place the welfare of foreign nations before ours...THAT SHOULD CONSTITUTE HIGH TREASON.
    • yankee123  •  10 mths ago
      Egan-Jones is correct, the deficit will only grow in size.
    • Mochican  •  10 mths ago
      We haven't had a real economy in decades. The dollar is a note. A note is a promise to pay money. We don't pay anyone and this includes the citizens also. It is all fiat money and the entire system is a ponzi scheme. Don't believe me, look at social security and medicare. They keep the people baffled by fooling them that some minority is getting a handout from the government. How many people do you know get a government check from SS, military, government worker, and etc.? The true national debt is 70 trillion and 14.5 trillion. Add SS, Medicare, military retirement, Veteran's compensation and Veteran Care to the bill and you come up with 70 trillion. Think Tanks compiled these real numbers years ago. WE WILL NEVER HAVE A COUNTRY WITHOUT DEBT. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. THE DEBT HAS TO GROW OR THE COUNTRY WILL DEFAULT AND EVENTUALLY FAIL TO EXIST AS WE KNOW IT. NOTHING CAN BE DONE THE BILLS ARE DUE AND WE CANNOT PAY TODAY, TOMORROW OR EVER.
    • Fred  •  10 mths ago
      We are $14.5 trillion in debt. We are adding more that $1.6 trillion a year. When our leaders speak, they talk about cutting millions and billions. What? Did you fail math? You do know a trillion is a lot bigger than a million, right?
    • JESUS SAVES  •  10 mths ago
      Moody's and S & P are the Arthur Anderson of ENRON. Civilization has not seen corruption at this level since Nero. Can we survive? You mean going two more trillion dollars in debt by buying our own bonds with printed money doesn't deserve a AAA rating? No 2010 Budget and GE doesn't pay taxes on 5 billion profit. Answer: Blame it on Bush. Brilliant! Not that he doesn't deserve some but that is no answer for all the corruption.
    • netserfernick  •  10 mths ago
      you republicans blamming dems, and dems blamming repubs are all MORONS. Its BOTH SIDES you tunnel visioned idiots. Wake your dumb a-- up.
    • Ward W  •  10 mths ago
      What a concept!!! A rating agency paid for by INVESTORS instead of the people they are rating! Moody's, S&P and Fitch continue to be an impact because???????
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