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    Arne Duncan calls for personal finance lessons starting in kindergarten

    Duncan (AP)Education Secretary Arne Duncan said this week that schools should incorporate personal finance into lesson plans. He proposes that such instruction should start as early as kindergarten to combat widespread financial illiteracy.

    "As important as reading and math and social studies and science, I think today more than ever financial literacy has to be part of that," Duncan said at a speech at the Treasury Department. "To continue to have a population that is relatively illiterate in these matters I think has real negative consequences to our democracy."

    Duncan acknowledged that it's up to individual districts and states to make the move, however, since the Education Department doesn't have any authority over curriculum content. (Unlike Australia, for example, which began mandating K-12 financial education in all schools this year.)

    Some American schools have already taken the lead on this, showing their students not only how to open savings accounts but also how to understand credit markets and interest rates.

    More...Schools affiliated with the National Academy Foundation--a nonprofit network of career academies--teach high school students the basics of personal finance. More than 200 of their high schools focus on finance as a career, linking students to internships in the finance industry and offering them electives in subjects such as accounting.

    In the elective classes, students learn to read and interpret documents such as a company's annual report or a home loan. But they also learn about economic principles in their traditional classes. "We connect finance education to Math, History and Language Arts," NAF Chief Academic Officer Andy Rothstein said.

    Some credit unions open up branches in the high schools--partially staffed by the students--where students can also open up savings accounts. Rothstein said that since most of the students in NAF schools are poor and live in urban areas, it's even more important that they learn how to navigate basic financial decisions.

    "Their financial needs are higher by definition," Rothstein said. "They need to be able to access that knowledge to move from poverty to middle class. Too often their own communities and families are not sophisticated in financial management."

    And poorer students need to be able to understand student loans in order to access higher education. "There are a lot of forms that are very complicated to complete. FAFSA"--the Free Application for Federal Student Aid--"is worse than a tax return," Rothstein said.

    A recent working paper by Dartmouth economist Annamaria Lusardi found that "the majority of Americans lack basic numeracy and knowledge of fundamental economic principles such as the workings of inflation, risk diversification, and the relationship between asset prices and interest rates." Most Americans do not prepare for retirement or their kids' college expenses, and a significant minority of them do not know the terms of their own mortgages or the interest rates on their loans. Since employer-controlled pension plans have largely been replaced by 401k plans, it's even more important that Americans know how to plan for their own retirement.

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    • Daddy O  •  6 mths ago
      It's a "nice" idea, but is it necessary? Would it help? I learned financial responsibility by growing up in a household where financial responsibility was practiced. Teaching it in school wouldn't hurt, but it will amount to nothing if the students go home to parents who pay one credit card bill with another credit card. Just teach them lots of math and science, so they have a chance to make it on their own.
      • LittleDustBunny 6 mths ago
        We don't all follow our parents' lead. Give the kids a chance to learn something and break the cycle of fiscal irresponsibility!
      • Cartigan 6 mths ago
        "It's a "nice" idea, but is it necessary? Would it help? I learned financial responsibility by growing up in a household where financial responsibility was practiced."

        So your argument is we shouldn't teach financial responsibility because YOU learned it in a house where it was practiced. I see you failed your logical debating class in school.
      • Unknown 6 mths ago
        Daddy O, I support your idea. Look at Asian Americans, they never learn any thing in financial management from school, but only learn the lessons from their parents who work hard and raise them successfully.
    • Concerned Citizen  •  Collinsville, United States  •  6 mths ago
      I feel much better now. Aren't these the same guys who didn't see the housing market crash coming in 2008?
    • neversurprised  •  6 mths ago
      What does it matter? You think the NEA teachers are going to teach finance any better than they teach readin', writin' and 'rithmetic?

      The answer is not giving kindergarteners more subjects. It's making sure they learn the subjects they have. I can see starting this in junior high with classes added to the curriculum, with teachers who actually care more about teaching finance than protesting for public employee unions.

      Learning starts at home, but the teacher plays a big role. Probably 30% of our nation's K-12 teachers are incompetent. We won't see the educational levels of our children increase until we weed out that 30%, and to do that you have to dissolve the NEA.
      • bee 6 mths ago
        I would also say that 30% of students in public schools today shouldn't be allowed to interact with the other 70%!!! For various reasons....motivation issues, behavioral problems, incompetent parents (or no parental figures whatsoever)...but I forgot all of these problems are the TEACHERS fault!!! Yeah right...can we talk PARENT/STUDENT accountability!!! ALL STUDENTS ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL
      • KimberlyO 6 mths ago
        I would also say that at least 30% of the people commenting here are uninformed, illiterate and narrow minded. Weird! Just because you read it in the paper or see it on FOX news, doesn't mean it is true. Didn't your mother teach you that at home?
      • neversurprised 6 mths ago
        Ahhh -- girls, girls... are you saying there are children who shouldn't be allowed to go to school? Or that the 30% number developed BY THE US DEPT OF EDUCATION IN 2007 is wrong? Your job is to TEACH, not protest for the union. As I said, learning starts at home. But do your jobs better and kids will learn more.
    • SRH  •  6 mths ago
      Personal Finance should be basic Math: If you have $1.00, and you buy something that costs $1.00, you have $0.00 left. If you have $1.00, and there is a product that costs $2.00, you don't buy it until you add $1.00 to your $1.00 to make $2.00.
    • Bluerune  •  East Liverpool, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Great idea, then, when they are elected to congress, they will have some idea how finance works.
      • Dediadreamer 6 mths ago
        And maybe they will be better informed when they vote.
    • eadn  •  6 mths ago
      I've always been an advocate of adding basic life skills to public schooling and starting from kindergarten too. It doesn't have to begin about money, lost choices is a good point to start from. The only problem is that it will grow the kids up sooner, but I'm OK with that. Seems too many people want to "let kids be kids" and I think that's what's caused a lot of problems later on when reality hits.
    • swimmingloba  •  6 mths ago
      Sure, right after we give finance lessons to our government officials. Why are the people being treated as financial idiots...we're not the ones who racked up trillions of dollars in debt? I have ZERO debt.
    • Lori  •  6 mths ago
      I was a straight-A student all through K-12, and at graduation I had no idea of what jobs might pay, how much rent might cost, or that college was expensive. In many families it is taboo to talk about money. There is nothing controversial about teaching the meaning of interest rates and it might help some kids out immeasurably.
      • Walter N 6 mths ago
        You are prime example of why the entire eduction system needs an overhaul. Theach kids what they need to know not what you think they should know. Thank you.
      • Michael W 6 mths ago
        You are an idiot - you only learned what you were told that is the trouble with our education system - we must teach creative thinking - i.e. teaching the times table (X) is memorization not math problem solving
    • Dediadreamer  •  Rancho Santa Fe, United States  •  6 mths ago
      I like this idea, it should follow the student throught his school life. School should not only teach history, reading and writing, etc. It should teach life skills. Children get out of high school these days and fall flat on their faces because they have no education or experience in taking care of themsleves.
    • Coco the Wonderchimp  •  Madison, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Lesson number 1: Cutting the taxes of wealthy people does not create jobs, it destroys them or sends them to China.
      • Walter N 6 mths ago
        Lets see didn't a democrate congress pass the origonal free trade agreements like NAFTA? and didn't a democratic senate pass on the latest free trade agreements? Both of which have little or nothing to do with taxes or tax rates.
    • ak-roady  •  6 mths ago
      I've got a better answer- teach them this stuff at home. Along with the meaning of the words respect, no, hard work, consequences...
    • The Frog  •  6 mths ago
      With dwindling budgets our schools should focus it's precious resources towards basic academics. Please do not take any more time away from these subjects. Why not just make it a mandatory class starting in middle school and also in high school. But teaching it to elementary school kids just takes time away from hardcore academics that are essential to being successful when they move on to middle school and high school. Just my opinion.
    • Janina  •  6 mths ago
      How will they explain the fact that one kid sits on the pile of 99 toys whereas the rest of them fights for one worn out teddy bear?
    • Armyvet35  •  Killeen, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Lesson one: Do have have children until you are married, have an education and are in a career

      Lesson 2: It is NOT ok to live off the governent

      Lesson 3: Those free food stamps and daycare are not actually free. There are people who pay taxes to the government. Those free items are from other people's money

      Lesson 4: Do not get student loans. Work full time and then take a class here and there. Pay as you go!

      Lesson 5: Do not spend money on Big screen TV's, out that money into an emergancy savings account.

      Oh and By the way. Texas High school requirement? ECONOMICS. Is a REQUIRED subject.
      Not an elective. It was a very nice class as well. How to balance a check book, use of credit cards and such. Our teen daughter got alot out of the class.
    • alienbaby  •  Wichita, United States  •  6 mths ago
      I had two finacial classes- one in 6th grade and another Senior year - both were very helpful and actually showed us what our selected degree would get in pay and what our general bills would be depending on whether we were married, had kids, etc - it was very eye opening. BUT there are some children who make it to highschool and still can't read. I think we still need to perfect the very basics first - if they can't do simple addition then a finicial class is going to do squat.
    • Yahooooo  •  6 mths ago
      They can start by getting rid of Red Ribbon week where they bully kindergartners into signing a contract saying they'll never do drugs without reading or understanding it.
    • HypocrisyAtWork  •  St. Louis, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Duncan, the NEA and the AFT are all pretty good at determining what we're "SUPPOSED" to know. Funny though..you sem to be failing at teaching the few things you are supposed to..reading...writing...math and science.
      -- How about teacher remember how to teach those before they start trying to social engineer human beings for the next century.
      -- How about we leave the social engineering in the parents realm where it belongs.
    • Kodiak  •  6 mths ago
      Unless you teach people that they cannot spend more than they earn and that the books absolutely must balance, then all the so-called financial education in the world will do them no good. Also, parents must be taught this lesson FIRST and put it into practice before their children will believe it and take it to heart. Kindergarten might be a bit early, but nonetheless they can learn from parents who will not buy them every little thing their hearts desire regardless of cost. It starts there...
    • Michael  •  Intercourse, United States  •  6 mths ago
      I had to read the article to see what an Arne Duncan was....
    • Nick  •  Elmhurst, United States  •  6 mths ago
      OK Kids now I will tell you that $.51 cents out of every $1.00 that the govenrment takes in is wasted.
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