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    Jobless benefits raise unemployment by less than thought, study finds

    Crowds of job-seekers wait to enter a job fair in South Los Angeles. AP Photo/Reed Sa …Lawmakers in Congress are preparing for battle on several fronts as they weigh President Obama's jobs plan--and one of the likely sticking points will be the administration's request to further extend unemployment benefits, which are scheduled to expire at the end of the year.

    The White House argues that with economic growth faltering and unemployment above 9 percent, the benefits don't just provide a lifeline to millions of struggling Americans; they also offer a fast and effective way to jolt the economy. That's because recipients have little choice but to spend them quickly, rather than saving them, so they're rapidly dispersed into the economy's bloodstream. But Republicans have been lukewarm about the idea, with some contending that jobless benefits increase unemployment, by reducing the incentives for recipients to find work. (Indeed, the GOP appears eager to fundamentally overhaul the unemployment benefits system by tying it more closely to work.)

    That's why a new study (pdf) about the impact of jobless benefits on employment comes at a crucial time. Jesse Rothstein, an economics professor at the University of California, Berkeley, used a sophisticated statistical analysis to conclude that extensions of benefits had a "significant but small" effect on the unemployment rate, by deterring the unemployed from looking for work.

    How small? Rothstein, who previously served as a top economist in the Obama White House and Labor Department, found that the various extensions of jobless benefits enacted during the current downturn raised the unemployment rate by around 0.2 to 0.6 percentage points. By our back-of-the envelope calculations, that translates to somewhere between 310,000 and 930,000 jobs.

    But hold on! Rothstein says that half or more of this effect is thanks to "reduced labor force exit among the unemployed rather than to the changes in re-employment rates." What does that mean? In plain English, unemployment benefits can exert a perverse pressure to keep job-seekers counted in the ranks of the jobless.

    To continue to receive benefits, you're required to keep searching. So some people who would otherwise have grown discouraged and stopped looking for work continue to do so in order to receive benefits. That has the effect of artificially raising the official unemployment rate--since once you stop searching for a job, you're no longer counted in the official rate. But this pattern of lingering nonparticipation in the workforce doesn't mean there are more people without a job.

    So once you exclude those people, you're left with perhaps around 300,000 people who would have jobs were it not for unemployment benefits creating an incentive of sorts to remain out of work. That's not nothing, but as Rothstein notes, the magnitude of this drag on the unemployment rate is "much less than is implied by previous analyses."

    A key followup question, which Rothstein's study isn't designed to address, is whether that small impact is outweighed by the positive effect of jobless benefits in stimulating the economy. That's a hard question to answer, because it involves comparing a micro-economic impact (i.e., benefits causing people to look less hard for work) to a macro-economic impact (i.e., recipients quickly spending benefits and thereby triggering increased economic activity).

    According to at least one analyst, Rob Valletta, an economist at the San Francisco Fed--who, as it happens, is acknowledged in the footnotes of Rothstein's paper -- the latter effect outweighs the former, as The Lookout reported earlier this year. Valetta argues that more jobs are created via the economic gains of disbursing jobless benefits than are lost by the way that the benefits may prolong the time that jobless Americans are not employed. And Valletta was assuming that the impact on personal behavior was around twice as large as Rothstein's study found.

    Of course, all of these calculations also do not address the human benefit of continuing to offer a lifeline to Americans who are struggling.

    What does all this mean? On one level, another academic study--especially by a former Obama administration economist--isn't likely to convince many Republicans to switch their stance on extending benefits. But should Congress ever wrestle with the unemployment crisis as something other than a question of partisan politics, Rothstein's data could be an important reality check.

     

    2,458 comments

    • Andy  •  8 mths ago
      I wish some of these Republican along with the Tea Party were unemployed struggling to find jobs like millions of us are. They certainly would be whistling a different tune if the shoe were on the other foot. We will remember you at election time dont worry. Also, if unemployment is not extended... More

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      IMO Teabaggers have job security working for the GOP,Healthcare Insurance,Koch Brothers and others that pay $$ and give bus rides to professional hecklers ,talking heads and hate mongers !
    • SoTrue2710  •  8 mths ago
      What's wrong with you people? If you can't read and comprehend better than you seem to be doing, it's an absolute miracle that you have jobs at all! If you're not unemployed right NOW, in this economy, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I've been out of work before and it NEVER took me over a couple of weeks to find another job...but WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LONGEST RECESSION SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION. I HAVE LOOKED...DAY AND OFTEN HALF THE NIGHT...WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS. I have redone my resume HUNDREDS of times and I still don't have a job.
      I'm what's wrong with this country today, you say? You're an idiot! What is wrong is the fat cats outsourced our jobs...THEY ARE WHAT'S WRONG WITH OUR COUNTRY. THEY OUGHT TO BE TRIED FOR TREASON! CEOs MAKE BILLIONS AND PAY THEIR UNDERLINGS MINIMUM WAGE...THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG AND IF YOU CAN'T UNDERESTAND THAT, YOU'RE TOO IGNORANT TO MATTER.
      Don't you dare lump all of us in with the people who won't accept a minimum wage job...at this point, I'll take ANYTHING. I used to be an Office Manager but since I lost my job, I've applied to clean offices at night, babysitting, etc. Sadly, those who are doing the hiring now believe that if you've been out of work longer than a few months, they don't want you. Some ads come right and say the unemployed need not apply.
      So, all you haters, you try to walk a mile in our shoes and then you'll have the right to voice your opinion...until that time, shut the hell up!
      • Charles Stucker 8 mths ago
        The "Fat cats' who outsourced your jobs are the people in DC who keep raising taxes until nothing can be done profitably in the US anymore. Tax and Spend, which party does that the most?
      • r 8 mths ago
        Well said so true. Good Luck to you....
      • Chass 8 mths ago
        Where are you looking for a job at?
    • David  •  8 mths ago
      Goverment and or whoever writes this crap...the jobs HAS TO HIRE for the unemployed to get jobs.. You are writing as if there IS jobs and we are not taking them..Ummm lets lay you off from your paying job and see how fast you find another one. Since the economy started going down business found out they could force 1 employee to do 2 person's job , lay off the other 2 and there company would still run. That 1 is not going to say anything for fear he will be out here with rest of us, the companies also know with the way the economy is no employee is going to say anything they will keep their job. THESE companies is making money with less employee and not putting that money back in their business by expanding and hiring again..They are not spending their money also putting it back in our economy. Everything price wise is going up as if the economy is doing great expecting us the unemployed to throw money into it and repair it , and then read crap like this saying WE WANT TO set back on the few dollars we get like we are getting big time free money...sorry idiots by the time all this great amount of money I get is paid to JUST what I need..rent, electric,car ins..High price of gas , food.. sorry nothing left nothing.. We are suppose to be able to dream.. you see something and can not afford it you think well if I put back a dollar every week I can get it ..NOT ANYMORE..when you don't have that extra dollar to put back , you see NOTHING left ..you can't dream... so right we want to set back and live like this and not find work and make more. Here is an idea ....HOW ABOUT OUR GOVERMENT PUTTING A FREEZE ON ANY PRICE HIKE ON ANYTHING TILL WE ARE OUT OF THIS MESS... THAT WOULD BE A START AND YES WE HAVE HAD A PRESIDENT IN PAST THAT DID THAT SO DON'T SAY CAN'T BE DONE. But wait doing that would effect the people THAT IS making money setting back not spending putting it back in our economy ,the ones setting back saying we are free loading.
      • Reprise 8 mths ago
        There was an article posted on yahoo yesterday, There is a TON of low income paying jobs making minimum wage. You know, the jobs kids take to make money on summer vacation. But there is no decent paying jobs.. If I was collecting 600$ a week with unemployment, I certainly wouldn't take a 200$ a week job flipping burgers.
      • Erik 8 mths ago
        I keep an ad going nearly constantly. It spells out specifically what the jobs are, what is expected and the knowledge needed to use the tools for the job. At least 90% of the applicants first words in an application are;
        a. How much does it pay
        b. Does it involve manual labor
        c. Do you have paid holidays

        Upon first meeting the remaining applicants first answer to knowledge is: I can learn it...
      • Becky 8 mths ago
        If the grammar used in your resume or during interviews is anything close to what you posted here, I am not surprised you can't find work. There are plenty of us out here working that cannot afford luxuries and are not "setting back not spending", but living paycheck to paycheck, barely making enough to make ends meet. If your unemployment is paying for your food, gas, utilities, rent, and car insurance, what are you complaining about? I have to work extra hours every week to make those bills, and I'm grateful to be able to do so! Besides, if someone is making money, it is their choice whether to save or spend that money. If they choose to save their money, good for them - that's probably a good part of the reason they are doing well. Companies don't want to hire in tough economic times - their income is less as well, and they are covering their own rears to be sure that they stay in business. For you to think that people should go out and buy things they don't need in an uncertain economic climate just in the hopes that THEIR spending will get YOU a job, while also complaining that you have nothing left over after all your bills are PAID and you have food on the table (while not working), shows the entitlement mentality that people are so upset about.
    • Kathleen  •  8 mths ago
      Somebody in government had better do something now about the unemployment crisis before everyone in America is unemployed. We used to be a proud country that helped our own citizens. What happened? Republicans would rather see us unemployed dead.
    • Dan M  •  8 mths ago
      Unemployment benefits: BAD!!!

      $10 billion per month on Iraq War: GOOD!!!
    • me  •  8 mths ago
      I love how they say unemployment encourages the unemployed to not seek work!! REALLY DUMBA***S??? I used to make 60,000 a year .. on unemployment I will make 15,000.. Do the math morons!!!
      • Al O. Vera 8 mths ago
        A number of years ago, I was unemployed. My former monthly take-home pay was $2000; unemployment was $900. My mortgage payments were $700. Duh.
    • Necro Device  •  8 mths ago
      All us "unemployed" can run out and take minimum wage jobs (Provided we can find one), but it will NOT do anything to help unemployment or the recession. The people who work those jobs are kids out of high school. Now they don't get jobs because skilled labor is taking it. In addition, most of us who been on unemployment are older, we have degrees, we have debt, we have student loans, car payments, house payments, and so on. It will not fix the bigger problem. For every Taco Bell job that educated and skilled laborers take is one less job for that high school student. In addition, not only is that student out of a job, the person who took that job can't afford to pay their bills. It doesn't solve anything! Doesn't anyone get the bigger picture?
    • mark a  •  8 mths ago
      bar jona, i don't understand your math. If you had a six figure salary why are you only getting 1600.. a month. Something sounds fishy here.i thimk your using exageration to prove some point.
      • joemama 8 mths ago
        barjona is concerned for his boner
    • GV026  •  8 mths ago
      To everyone that has a temp job stay positive and work hard. Don't be like other people that wish to go home while they're at work. They don't know how it is to be jobless like i was for a bit. The temp job can turn to something good. Respect all the people and co workers around and ignore the rumors and jealousy that they talk about you. All you have to do is enjoy your job every day and be thankful you have a job. I was under the unemployment insurance for a while till i got a temp job. Now i am happy with my job and wish i would become a regular worker. I work some overtime and love it every time. I loved my past jobs but got laid off due to not enough money going into our company. Now i'm at another good job and i enjoy it. I have a smile on my face great bosses and thank the unemployment for helping me before i landed this job. I will eventually pay back the first extension of my unemployment but first have to pay off my bills due to charging for necessities during my unemployed times. It added up and now i have to work hard and concentrate my checks to paying those back. Once they're paid back i will pay back the unemployment for the first extension and help the economy by spending here and there. Saving too of course for retirement and emergencies. And to those with no jobs yet please stay proud and keep looking like i did you will find something one day. I always thought there's a reason for me being laid off my past job, and i found out by finding another great job that i have now. Good karma to all of you and good luck.
      • brent 8 mths ago
        first off you do not have to pay back unemployment ..just save or spend the money and stay off the happy looks like you take too many
    • HarveyTheHeathen  •  8 mths ago
      It's been said that there are FIVE jobseekers for every opening now. That's probably a low estimate, and that ratio was calculated to be the average during all of the 1970s. When there are quite a few more jobseekers than jobs, it's simple to calculate how many of them would still be jobless years later, assuming equal chances of finding work. AND anyone who knows anything about the job market knows that the chances are NOT EQUAL. Some people have better resumes than others and have been more recently laid off. Those people have an advantage compared to those who have been out of luck longer. There aren't enough jobs to go around, people!
    • Al O. Vera  •  8 mths ago
      A number of years ago, I was unemployed. My former monthly take-home pay was $2000; unemployment was $900. My mortgage payments were $700. Duh...
    • Dawn Bent  •  8 mths ago
      these comments.. wow.. just wow.. class warfare for sure. Wealthy against poor. And let's not forget, many fast food places or retail prefer illegals. LOL What do you do when you're a hardworking citizen and you need a job? People can't even get a first job yet alone a second job. Craziness.
    • gregory  •  8 mths ago
      That must be a really big car in the ditch, cause it hasn't moved in 2 years.
    • HERE KITTY KITTY  •  8 mths ago
      Our Gov should require anyone receiving an unemployment handout to do at least 10 hours of community service each week collecting trash on many of our neglected streets. They would get paid minimal wage while receiving their full benies. WHAT DO YOU THINK?
    • Matt  •  8 mths ago
      There's currently a major shortage of truck drivers. Google "truck driver shortage" and you'll see. Talk to an industry analyst and they'll tell you the same thing. It may not be someone's dream job, but it pays well, is accessable, and is infinitely better than being unemployed.
    • Meg  •  8 mths ago
      "I wish some of these Republican along with the Tea Party were unemployed struggling to find jobs like millions of us are. They certainly would be whistling a different tune if the shoe were on the other foot. We will remember you at election time dont worry. Also, if unemployment is not extended many of us will be out on the street and that definitely cant be good for the economy making it worse. Instead of being so bull headed about what your Parties stand for why don;t you for once stand up for the American People that are trying to make ends meet while they look for work."
    • Lou  •  8 mths ago
      i think we should lay off about 50% of Congress and let these people who have never struggled with keeping your family going live on unemployment benefits
    • Terrie  •  8 mths ago
      I'm getting so tired of the "get off your #$%$ and get a job" comments. Yes, there are people who will not even attempt to do anything until they get their last unemployment check, but the majority of us started looking the day we got laid-off. Do you think we enjoy trying to juggle bills to try to keep our utilities on? Do you think we enjoy begging our landlords for just a little more time to get the rent paid? Do you think we enjoy having to swallow our pride and apply for public assistance to feed our kids??Until recently, I paid the rent and utilities and bought the food and medicines we needed. We didn't have the greatest stuff, but it was MY stuff - I bought/traded, or in some cases, picked it up off the side of the road. We didn't have cable, or cell phones and we use the computers at the library.Most of us didn't get fired for some infraction or stupidity - we lost our positions from the companies we worked for downsizing due to the economy, or from the jobs going to another country because labor is cheaper. We would LOVE to still be working!!! If you have something constructive to say, I'd love to hear it.
    • debetee  •  8 mths ago
      In the cases I am personally familiar with, the unemployed couldn't wait to get back to work, and they did so as soon as possible, even though the pay was low. Take the job, do a good job, give the boss what he is paying for. You just might get a raise. The cases I am familiar with happened to be white males.
    • mytime  •  8 mths ago
      Unemployment is paid by the Employer!! So why should a person be able to draw more unemployment compensation than a retired person draw Social Security, when that person paid their own Social Security? No one ever Found a Job sitting on their Butt...There are Jobs out there, you have got to be willing to look, and then presentable enough to land the Job.. this means dress to impress, speak like a person who wants a Job., I am retired and never drew a day of unemployment because I had a family that had to be supported, take that job that you think is not good enough for you and then something else will come along...
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