Discover Yahoo! With Your Friends

Explore news, videos, and much more based on what your friends are reading and watching. Publish your own activity and retain full control.

To get started, first

YOUR FRIENDS' ACTIVITY

    The Lookout

    Should police be able to put GPS trackers on cars without a warrant?

    The U.S. Supreme Court (AP)Justices on the Supreme Court today expressed reservations about the Obama administration's argument in support of police surveillance teams placing hidden GPS devices on vehicles indefinitely without first obtaining a warrant.

    Attorneys for convicted D.C.-area drug dealer Antoine Jones are arguing that the federal government overstepped its authority by conducting warrantless surveillance on Jones' car via concealed GPS trackers. (To get a warrant, agents must show there is probable cause to believe someone is committing a crime. In Jones' case, officers had obtained a warrant, but it had expired before they tagged his car.)

    The government is arguing that people do not have a right to privacy while traveling on public roads. Police are allowed to physically follow people and even dig through their trash without a warrant, and the Obama administration says that the GPS technology amounts to the same surveillance method.

    But some justices on the court seemed deeply skeptical of that line of reasoning.

    "So . . . you could tomorrow decide that you put a GPS device on every one of our cars, follow us for a month; no problem under the Constitution?" Chief Justice John Roberts asked the government's lawyer, Michael Dreeben. Dreeben replied that yes, the justices could not expect privacy on public roads and the government would be within its rights to put GPS devices on their vehicles.

    Justice Stephen Breyer said that the GPS trackers could not be compared to physical police surveillance, because the ease of the technology means that theoretically every single U.S. citizen could be followed at all times. By contrast, Breyer noted, the government would never have the resources to physically tail a large number of people. "So if you win, you suddenly produce what sounds like 1984," Breyer said.

    As Forbes' Kashmir Hill writes, the justices' aggressive response in the oral arguments signals that they may write a broader ruling on the intersection of technology and privacy. The last Supreme Court ruling on electronic government surveillance was in 1983, and involved pagers.

    Meanwhile, Wired's Kim Zetter tracked down a 25-year-old man named Greg in San Jose, California who recently discovered one of the feds' tracking devices on his car. Greg says he believes he's being tracked because his cousin, a Mexican citizen, fled over the border recently and may have been a drug dealer. The Justice Department wouldn't tell Wired whether the device belonged to its agents--or whether they were investigating Greg.

     
    • M G  •  Krypton, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Why should they have a right to tag our car, WE have given up to many rights already ... Time to fight back! NO more Gestapo tactics, no more wire taps and computer hacking. REMEMBER YOU WORK FOR US ! They think we go to work everyday to pay their salary so they can spy on us. Whats wrong with this picture ??
    • Grapost  •  Philadelphia, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Benjamin Franklin said: Those that sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither!
    • who dat  •  6 mths ago
      is my Car private property or not?..are they not placing a item on my private property?..

      if they are allowed to do this then whats next, bypassing warrent laws by placing mic's and video camera's on the outside of my windows.
      • Skye 6 mths ago
        Watch "Homeland" on Showtime. They'll be looking at us screwing in our own bedrooms and justify it somehow. Think about it.
      • Gmr74 6 mths ago
        Good point...the government is in effect "seizing our property" without compensation.
      • TR RINO 6 mths ago
        They don't need a mic on the window. They can use the electical circuits in the house.
    • Josh  •  6 mths ago
      The road is public, the car is not.
      • Marco 6 mths ago
        I agree the ROAD is public, however to put a tracking on the CAR there should be a warrant. And although the road is public I still think there should be some rights to privacy or at least anti harassment rights... Meaning an office CANNOT follow you home as that would be weird and make you feel unsafe. Unless he has a warrant. Who the hell feel's safe with cops nowadays anyways. And also an officer can only search your trash if you put the bin outside of your property... so still on your green grass??? NEED WARRANT!

        I've been arrested zero times, and committed zero crimes but have been harassed by cops over 10 times and I can say attacked twice for not doing anything wrong at ALL. I'm in Canada where cops aren't really known to be as problematic as your cops down in America. I sympathize with all of you Americans and I do hope things get better for y'all.
    • Brian  •  6 mths ago
      So do they remove the tracker before I pull into MY driveway?
    • Robert  •  Atlanta, United States  •  6 mths ago
      So when I find the device on my car in my garage - which is my private property - then I can sue the government for invasion of privacy?
      • autumn wind songd 6 mths ago
        dont you know the gov't is the only institution which cant be sued...good luck even if they could be...they would have you tied up till death do you both part...
      • newheadlines 6 mths ago
        lol your funny the fact is almost everything has gps in it even the computer you just typed this message on has it they can track you no matter what think about it, this has been going on overseas for years,
    • Happy  •  6 mths ago
      Placing anything other than a parking ticket or a boot on a motor vehicle without the owners permission is a crime known as "Tampering with a motor vehicle."
    • Not us  •  6 mths ago
      Insurance companies want to give you a discount to put them on your car to monitor speed, mileage, etc. now it's as discount, pretty quickly it will either be a penalty or cancelation if you don't. On Star's new contract states they can track your postion, mileage, speed, seat belt use and sell it to outside vendors such as law enforcement, insurance companies or whoever they want. Don't think they will be added to your car's, you just won't know it or have a choice.
    • skipatone  •  6 mths ago
      No, we have lost enough of our right already.
    • Edwin  •  Pleasanton, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Simple answer, NO
    • WaitingForTheElectrician  •  6 mths ago
      They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ----- Benjamin Franklin
    • pep  •  6 mths ago
      Not without a warrant. Citizens of THIS country should not have to be afraid of government goons. We will remain a free people only as long as we protect our rights. If I wanted to live in China, I'd move there.
    • Agent-007  •  Pleasanton, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Not only no but HELL NO!
    • nick d  •  Mentor, United States  •  6 mths ago
      NO, NO, NO. NO F'ing way.
    • Grapost  •  Philadelphia, United States  •  6 mths ago
      HELL NO! A car is PRIVATE PROPERTY! The cops have no right to put a Bumper Sticker on my car so where do they get the idea they have a right to attach a tracking device to it without a warrant.

      How lazy can they be? Hell most Judges just rubber stamp any request for a warrant they ask for. Now they are getting so lazy they can't be bothered with that simple formality.

      The scary part is our NAZI Supreme Court is gonna make this legal.
    • em yêu  •  Los Angeles, United States  •  6 mths ago
      patriot act = gov't listens in on your telephone conversation w/o you knowing; now they want to follow you and hear what your saying w/o you knowing.
    • mike  •  Los Angeles, United States  •  6 mths ago
      hmmmm...What happens then if I put a GPS tracker on a police car (or any other city/state/federal vehicle) - wonder if they'd mind.
    • Zoey  •  Basin, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Uhm, NO! If it is NOT required, by "certain" law and it is NOT, or warrant, to do so, they should not be able to do so. It's breaking the Constitutional Rights! We have enough problems of giving up OUR rights, with out idiots of the law wanting to tag our cars with that crap! =.= I mean, letting them do this, would mean they could randomly tag whatever car they wanted! I could be tagged with that crap, and not even know it. Even though I have a CLEAN record. Driving, AND Criminal wise! Jeez -.- It's like, they are seeing EVERY person, as law breakers, and criminals!
    • Shawn  •  Gardner, United States  •  6 mths ago
      NO!
    • Victoria Two  •  6 mths ago
      Not a good plan. Warrant first, tag second. Always warrant first. Ran the clock on the first warrant, go get another one. Those are the rules and they are good rules designed to protect everyone. The price of maintaining the freedom is the sure knowledge that some bad guys are going to benefit as well. Better that than having my rights rights further restricted, because of someone else's crimes. The United States Constitution is a document for the purpose of expanding the rights of citizens. Now, we are being asked to forego more and more civil liberties in the pursuit of safety and security. The world is neither a safe or secure place. Never has been. Today, however, we are making it dangerous on so many levels at once, we are unable to keep up with everything effecting our lives and we are allowing bad ideas to operate outside the rule of law in an effort to be safe and secure. It can only go badly if we give up our right to make sure that police have the probable cause to convince a judge to issue a warrant.
    [ [ [['Connery is an experienced stuntman', 2]], 'http://yhoo.it/KeQd0p', '[Slideshow: See photos taken on the way down]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['Connery is an experienced stuntman', 7]], ' http://yhoo.it/KpUoHO', '[Slideshow: Death-defying daredevils]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['know that we have confidence in', 3]], 'http://yhoo.it/LqYjAX ', '[Related: The Secret Service guide to Cartagena]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['We picked up this other dog and', 5]], 'http://yhoo.it/JUSxvi', '[Related: 8 common dog fears, how to calm them]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['accused of running a fake hepatitis B', 5]], 'http://bit.ly/JnoJYN', '[Related: Did WH share raid details with filmmakers?]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['accused of running a fake hepatitis B', 3]], 'http://bit.ly/KoKiqJ', '[Factbox: AQAP, al-Qaeda in Yemen]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['have my contacts on or glasses', 3]], 'http://abcn.ws/KTE5AZ', '[Related: Should the murder charge be dropped?]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['have made this nation great as Sarah Palin', 5]], 'http://yhoo.it/JD7nlD', '[Related: Bristol Palin reality show debuts June 19]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['have made this nation great as Sarah Palin', 1]], 'http://bit.ly/JRPFRO', '[Related: McCain adviser who vetted Palin weighs in on VP race]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['A JetBlue flight from New York to Las Vegas', 3]], 'http://yhoo.it/GV9zpj', '[Related: View photos of the JetBlue plane in Amarillo]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['the 28-year-old neighborhood watchman who shot and killed', 15]], 'http://news.yahoo.com/photos/white-house-stays-out-of-teen-s-killing-slideshow/', 'Click image to see more photos', 'http://l.yimg.com/cv/ip/ap/default/120411/martinzimmermen.jpg', '630', ' ', 'AP', ], [ [['Titanic', 7]], 'http://news.yahoo.com/titanic-anniversary/', ' ', 'http://l.yimg.com/a/p/us/news/editorial/b/4e/b4e5ad9f00b5dfeeec2226d53e173569.jpeg', '550', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['He was in shock and still strapped to his seat', 6]], 'http://news.yahoo.com/photos/navy-jet-crashes-in-virginia-slideshow/', 'Click image to see more photos', 'http://l.yimg.com/cv/ip/ap/default/120406/jet_ap.jpg', '630', ' ', 'AP', ], [ [['xxxxxxxxxxxx', 11]], 'http://news.yahoo.com/photos/russian-grannies-win-bid-to-sing-at-eurovision-1331223625-slideshow/', 'Click image to see more photos', 'http://l.yimg.com/a/p/us/news/editorial/1/56/156d92f2760dcd3e75bcd649a8b85fcf.jpeg', '500', ' ', 'AP', ] ]
    [ [ [['did not go as far his colleague', 8]], '29438204', '0' ], [ [[' the 28-year-old neighborhood watchman who shot and killed', 4]], '28924649', '0' ], [ [['because I know God protects me', 14], ['Brian Snow was at a nearby credit union', 5]], '28811216', '0' ], [ [['The state news agency RIA-Novosti quoted Rosaviatsiya', 6]], '28805461', '0' ], [ [['measure all but certain to fail in the face of bipartisan', 4]], '28771014', '0' ], [ [['matter what you do in this case', 5]], '28759848', '0' ], [ [['presume laws are constitutional', 7]], '28747556', '0' ], [ [['has destroyed 15 to 25 houses', 7]], '28744868', '0' ], [ [['short answer is yes', 7]], '28746030', '0' ], [ [['opportunity to tell the real story', 7]], '28731764', '0' ], [ [['entirely respectable way to put off the searing constitutional controversy', 7]], '28723797', '0' ], [ [['point of my campaign is that big ideas matter', 9]], '28712293', '0' ], [ [['As the standoff dragged into a second day', 7]], '28687424', '0' ], [ [['French police stepped up the search', 17]], '28667224', '0' ], [ [['Seeking to elevate his candidacy back to a general', 8]], '28660934', '0' ], [ [['The tragic story of Trayvon Martin', 4]], '28647343', '0' ], [ [['Karzai will get a chance soon to express', 8]], '28630306', '0' ], [ [['powerful storms stretching', 8]], '28493546', '0' ], [ [['basic norm that death is private', 6]], '28413590', '0' ], [ [['songwriter also saw a surge in sales for her debut album', 6]], '28413590', '1', 'Watch music videos from Whitney Houston ', 'on Yahoo! Music', 'http://music.yahoo.com' ], [ [['keyword', 99999999999999999999999]], 'videoID', '1', 'overwrite-pre-description', 'overwrite-link-string', 'overwrite-link-url' ] ]

    About The Lookout

    The Lookout is the Yahoo! News national affairs blog focusing on America’s most important and interesting stories.

    Subscribe

    [X]

    How to subscribe

    Roll over each section to subscribe using Add to My Yahoo! or RSS Feed feeds.

    Yahoo! News offers dozens of RSS feeds you can read in My Yahoo! or using third-party RSS news reader software. Click here to find out more about RSS and how you can use it with Yahoo! News.

    Meet The Lookout Team

    The Upshot Network

    Edited by Dylan Stableford
    Edited by Eric Pfeiffer
    Edited by Olivier Knox
    Add your ideas and help make it happen. Join the conversation.
    Should Bill and Donna take on more risk to boost their business?
    How Josh's comment on a Remake America video laid the groundwork for something bigger.