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    Warren Buffett would likely pay no income taxes under Cain’s 9-9-9 plan

    Warren Buffett. AP Photo/Richard Drew

    If the "9-9-9" tax plan promoted by Herman Cain, a leading Republican presidential candidate, had been the law of the land last year, Warren Buffett would very likely have paid no income taxes, according to an analysis prepared for Yahoo News and The Lookout by the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants. At most, Buffett would have paid taxes on just 1 percent of his income.

    Cain, a Georgia businessman, has risen to the top of several polls for the 2012 presidential campaign. A centerpiece of his platform is his 9-9-9 tax plan. Devised by Rich Lowrie, an Ohio wealth manager for Wells Fargo, the plan would scrap the current tax system--including payroll taxes, capital gains taxes and estate taxes--and replace it with a tax code that imposes a 9 percent personal income tax, a 9 percent national sales tax, and a 9 percent corporate income tax.

    If the plan is to impose a 9 percent tax, why would Buffett pay only 1 percent--or zero percent? Why so little?

    Using information Buffett has released about his total taxable income and his effective tax rate under the current system, Melissa Labant, an accountant with the American Institute of CPAs, said that the bulk of Buffett's taxable income came from capital gains. Cain's 9-9-9 plan would eliminate taxes on capital gains.

    According to Labant's rough calculation, Buffett's ordinary income, outside of capital gains, comes to around $4.9 million. At Cain's proposed rate of 9 percent, Buffett would pay around $440,000 in income tax--1.1 percent of the approximately $40 million in taxable income, after deducting for charitable giving and local taxes, Buffett earned last year.

    Buffett's returns show he made $62.9 million last year, but his taxable income was around $39.8 million. He has said the roughly $23 million difference is thanks to charitable contributions and local taxes.

    "Last year my federal tax bill—the income tax I paid, as well as payroll taxes paid by me and on my behalf—was $6,938,744," Buffett wrote in an op-ed article in the New York Times in August. "That sounds like a lot of money. But what I paid was only 17.4 percent of my taxable income—and that's actually a lower percentage than was paid by any of the other 20 people in our office. Their tax burdens ranged from 33 percent to 41 percent and averaged 36 percent."

    A tax rate of 17 percent is significantly higher, of course, than a tax rate of 1 percent. But even a tax rate of 1 percent is likely too high of an estimate, Labant's calculations suggest. Cain's 9-9-9 plan allows individuals to deduct charitable contributions, and Buffett's charitable giving almost certainly exceeded $4.9 million.

    If that's the case, as it appears, then Buffett would have paid no income taxes at all last year under the plan, Labant said.

    Labant stressed that her calculation required her to make several assumptions, because Buffett hasn't released his full tax returns and because Cain's plan lacks specifics in some areas. Several factors, she said, make it impossible to calculate with certainty the exact portion of Buffett's income that's derived from capital gains, and therefore the exact figure he'd pay under a 9-9-9 tax code. For instance, Buffett may or may not be subject to the alternative minimum tax, and he may or may not have foreign tax credits created by taxes he paid in other countries. We also don't know the exact amount of his charitable giving. Nor do we know whether Cain's plan would exempt all such giving, or make distinctions between different types of contributions, as some tax systems do.

    Income taxes aren't the only taxes Buffett would pay under Cain's plan. There's also that 9 percent sales tax. But this, too, would likely hit him less hard than it would hit less affluent Americans. We can't calculate the exact effect of the sales tax on Buffett without knowing how much he spends each year. But as a general rule, shifting the tax system away from income and toward sales shifts more of the burden onto lower-income Americans. The poor spend a larger share of their earnings than do the rich, because they don't have the luxury of having extra money to save. (Also, Buffett is said to live quite modestly.)

    So, if Buffett thinks he's getting off easy under the current tax system, he should try life under Cain's plan. Then he'd really be complaining.

     
     
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    • Janet  •  7 mths ago
      If this country loses the middle-class, the anchor, it's over.....
      • guest 7 mths ago
        its all falling into place... but, many don't see it, don't want to see it, and don't believe it... but, America will never get out of this regardless who gets in office. She will become known to the rest of the world as a third world country. If you have not read about the Indians in South Dakota, you should. Its not just affecting the Indian Reservations; but, all major cities, small towns are turning into ghost towns. Many blame GW Bush; but, it all started under Ronald (who is supposedly one of the greatest Presidents of all time); really came in under GHW Bush... and those who have followed kept adding to the Global trading... again.. its predicted and coming to past now. It will get 1000% worse before its all said and done.
      • michael 7 mths ago
        WHAT MIDDELCLASS??????????????????
      • Rocco Tool 7 mths ago
        Middle Class? This Regime wants to take YOUR money and give it to the crack dealer on the street. Collectivism.
    • Lbon  •  7 mths ago
      Every man is created equal, except when it comes to taxes.
      • Lbon 7 mths ago
        Real nice, you have a nice day!
      • go figure. 7 mths ago
        every body should pay thier share that way when your in need and get help deserved
      • Maximus 7 mths ago
        true and the rich pay the most!
    • zeno  •  7 mths ago
      we need a state by state accounting and open chat on the 9 9 9 plan. what does it mean for your state and are the tax payers in your state for it? catchy gimmics get some people elected before the real information about them and thier plan get a completely looked over or is correctly evaluated by people who understand what that means for thier state. when you hear a plan it needs evaluated and talked about in an unemotional accountant number crunching mind set to answer the question: does this work and is this the best solution or does it still need work. so states can - endorse it or push it back for rework / refinement.
      • I love NY 7 mths ago
        Cain's plan was evaluated and found that it would cost the middle class and the poor more in taxes than they are paying now. The person who wrote the Cain plan know nothing about economics. Google it and find out exactly who this person is and his background....
      • Djon 7 mths ago
        No more time needs to be spent on 999. Cain spent no time on it, why should anybody else?
      • John S 7 mths ago
        999 good for the middle class.. good for America.
    • mark h  •  7 mths ago
      The ONLY CERTAINTY : DEATH AND TAXES...yep my Dad was right
      • Kibber SF 7 mths ago
        notice how hard we fight to live longer? Imagine if we put that energy towards fixing the tax rate...
      • Joseph 7 mths ago
        technically u could become homeless and not pay anything...
      • Monkey 7 mths ago
        999= death by taxes
    • Ked Tennedy  •  7 mths ago
      Buffett pulls a salary of 100,000 that gets the full tax.... His new car (every three years) is company bought along with everything else
    • Ked Tennedy  •  7 mths ago
      Hey man... there's a 9 percent tax I've got to charge you on the bag of weed... Hey - don't get mad at me... I'm just passing the tax on!
    • Doug B  •  7 mths ago
      likely?
    • John S  •  7 mths ago
      A good article would show how much Buffet would pay under obama's Buffet Plan, which I imagine is also VERY little. Buffet makes most of his money through capital gains. None of the tax plans have discussed raising the tax rate above 15%
    • Jerry B  •  7 mths ago
      Haven't people figured how this works by now.During the campaigns all they do is runoff at the mouth making promises and statements about how they are going to changethings,make things better to do what is right for us and it's all rhetorical #$%$ In 240 years only one President in history has not broken a campaign promise to do the right thing.The 9th President William Henry Harrison delivered a 2 hour Inaugural address inshirt sleeves in January 1841 contracted pneumonia and died in the hospital 2 monthslater so he wasn't around long enough to break his promises.
    • David  •  7 mths ago
      Maybe we should vote for an independent party. lol
      • Rainy Day 7 mths ago
        the republi--cons have already conned you into the "tea Party", did you have something else in mind?????
      • Phebes 7 mths ago
        How about Stuart Alexander?

        /grin
      • sarup 7 mths ago
        I agree with RainyDay. tea party are republicans.they are made of rich millionaires who do not want to be taxed and wants Obama to loose for the same reason.
    • z-force  •  7 mths ago
      This country has excepted the Darwin Flush as its only future what a waste of a great nation and its people~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    • Mike  •  7 mths ago
      lol 9-9-9 would u expect a big businessman to tax the areas he is making money
    • Xj  •  7 mths ago
      Gimme a break, this isn't what's needed - it's what he can sell. Everyone knows you round down from a multiple of ten - it's right in the Pizza Pricing Theory handbook. You will lose a certain number of customers with an additional powers of ten column. It's a psychological barrier well known in marketing, so you sell at 9. It's why everything is priced at $X.99. What are the odds it wouldn't be eight, or ten? This guy is still selling Pizzas.
    • real athlete  •  7 mths ago
      True Patriot is neither.
    • whatsamattawitchyou  •  7 mths ago
      Wag the Dog politics is corrupting this great country. Government and politicians create new crises all the time so it is hard and time consuming for Americans to keep up, which we can't because we are working so hard. Governments and politicians COUNT on people being distracted all the time to do anything about the corruption. If Wag the Dog won't work they rely on the old standby which is SELLING FEAR.
    • chris o  •  7 mths ago
      scary how dumb and simple minded some americans are
    • William  •  7 mths ago
      If their is no taxes on capital gains there shouldn't be taxes on casino winnings either.
    • Xj  •  7 mths ago
      This isn't what's needed - it's what he can sell. Everyone knows you round down from a multiple of ten - it's right in the Pizza Pricing Theory handbook. You will lose a certain number of customers at ten, so sell at 9. It's a psychological barrier. That's why everything is priced at $X.99. This guy is still selling Pizzas.
    • koko  •  7 mths ago
      I hate politics!!!!!!
    • eric  •  7 mths ago
      i don' t understand why the GOP is so scared to approach the 1% with a fair tax scheme...every option presented is like a golden shower for the wealthy....what about the rest of us conservatives who are not in that 1%??? me thinks it a good time to start a new revolution by the people, for the people
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