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    OR bus driver accused of berating mom, crying baby

    PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — A driver in Oregon's largest public transit agency berated a woman and her crying baby into getting off a bus in a Portland suburb, saying "I can't drive with that noise," another passenger said Monday.

    Over the loudspeaker, the female bus driver told the woman to distract the baby to quiet it down, passenger Jennifer Chapman said. Other passengers muttered that the driver should "just drive the bus, just do your job," she said.

    When the mother and the baby got off the bus at a stop in Hillsboro, other passengers also left en masse in protest, she added.

    Mary Fetsch, a spokeswoman for the agency that runs mass transit in the Portland metropolitan area, said TriMet's policy is not to remove people such as women with children from a bus. The driver, who was not identified, has been placed on administrative leave while the agency investigates the complaint from the incident Thursday, Fetsch said.

    The Portland area prides itself on its environmentally friendly transportation options, such as miles of bike paths for commuters and a booming public transportation system. TriMet said it carries more people than any other transit system of its size in the country.

    Chapman said the child was younger than 2 and was fussing around in her mother's lap at the time. The woman spoke only Spanish, she said.

    The bus driver pulled over at a scheduled stop, walked to the back of the bus, pointed at the mother and then the baby, Chapman said. The woman then walked off the bus with the child, followed by the other passengers, she said.

    In a conversation with a dispatcher immediately after the confrontation, the bus driver described the baby as not "just crying."

    "It was screaming all the way from Beaverton, and I just finally stopped the bus," the driver said. "I said we need to get the baby to stop screaming because I just can't drive with it screaming ... that is not safe."

    The conversation was recorded by Al Margulies, a fellow bus driver and blogger who monitors scanner traffic. Marguilies played the recording to The Associated Press, and TriMet has confirmed that the accuracy of the recording.

    The driver told that dispatcher that when the woman and child had gotten off the bus, four or five passengers insulted her, so "I said you guys can get off too."

    The dispatcher told the driver: "In the future, if there is a baby crying on your bus there really isn't a whole lot you do. It's public transit."

    Fetsch said drivers can take steps if they believe their safety is in jeopardy, but policy prevents them from removing people "of a "vulnerable population." The driver has been working for TriMet for 10 years, she said.

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    Nigel Duara can be reached at http://www.twitter.com/nigelduara

     

    1,489 comments

    • Julie  •  7 mths ago
      It amazes me how ugly and ignorant many, many of these comments are. I really should stop reading them as I become so angry and disgusted that I struggle not to post something just as insulting in response. Do we really feel this cynical about our fellow man/woman? Or are some of us just alleviating our own sense of powerless and resentment with ugly words and sentiment?
    • Greg  •  7 mths ago
      If the parent is making an honest effort to meet the child's needs or quiet the child, then I can tolerate it. Its when they just sit there and ignore the screams that drives me NUTS!
      • Mary and Michael 7 mths ago
        Yeah they should never ignore a kid in public. Give the kid a good spanking so they can have the kid taken away. They can then vacation a few years in the state pen courtesy of the fellow passengers.
      • swimmingloba 7 mths ago
        Sometimes ignoring them is all you CAN do; there's only so much "there, there" is going to do for a baby that's been set off without remedy. Sometimes you just have to let them cry it out and get home as fast as you can.
      • Lacey G 7 mths ago
        It may drive you nuts, but drivers for companies who provide transportation services to the public are hired and for their ability to drive safely no matter what the conditions around them. A driver who cannot tune out a screaming child, loud conversation, the action scenes of the movie playing for the passengers or the shiny lights outside their window as they drive through the city at Christmas time has no business sitting in that seat.

        I ran a small bus station for years. The drivers that I saw come through on a daily basis were, for the most part, unflappable professionals who could perform their duties for up to ten hours a day in every weather condition known to man, and while transporting and ignoring some of the most obnoxious behavior ever exhibited by human beings. Some of these men and women had been vomited on, lost tires, had a turkey come through the windshield, sat through four hours of "99 bottles of beer on the wall", and countless other distractions without losing their cool. Anyone who couldn't tune out the background noise and stay focused was gone by the end of their 10th run.

        After watching hundreds of parents come off of buses looking like they had just barely made it through a war, I decided to take a short bus trip with my daughter, who was 3 at the time. I took snacks, coloring books, a walkman CD player, and a movie that I knew she liked because I knew the driver and was sure they'd do me the favor of popping it in. All of my distractions worked for the first 25 minutes. Then she squirmed for 10 minutes. When I finally had to hold her in my lap to keep her from trying to get up and wander the aisle, she spent the last 25 minutes of the trip screaming her head off because the only thing she wanted was out of that seat, and that was the one thing not in my power to let her have. We got a ride home from a friend rather than attempt another trip on the bus.

        My point is, sometimes parents can't do anything else, and the driver is getting paid to not only recognize that, but to ignore it and DRIVE.
    • Alan  •  7 mths ago
      a crying/screaming baby aint nothing. try driving a school bus full of kindergarden thru 6th grade kids. 73 of em all fired up from being stuck in school all day.
      • Consider This 7 mths ago
        I'd kick a few of them off, that out to cause an uproar.
      • Georgiana D 7 mths ago
        When I die and go to hell, that will be one of my job options.
      • marystalent 7 mths ago
        Yes, but a school bus driver knows to expect it.
    • May Pang Ping Pong  •  7 mths ago
      I would love to see a driver throw one of the crude,rude, loud and lewd urban youth off the bus
      • Left is Wrong 7 mths ago
        Sure, that'll happen :-)
      • LEROY 7 mths ago
        you get out fool
      • May Pang Ping Pong 7 mths ago
        Hey, Leroy
        What
        Your Mama, she's calling you, man

        Go to your Mama
        Go to your Mama
        Go to your Mama
        Go to your Mama
        Go to your Mama
        Go to your Mama
        Go to your Mama

        Hey, Leroy
        What
        Your Mama, she's calling you
        She's mad, man
    • Dan J  •  7 mths ago
      I will note that the real problem is getting ON a public or Grayhound etc. Bus anywhere BUT "An Official Stop".

      I once made the mistake of thinking that I would have an easy time of getting From a Hotel outside of Cleveland to a place where I caould get ON a Greyhound Bus.

      The Hotel was right at (abou one tenth of a mile from) an exit of The Ohio Turnpike.
      That is people leaving the Hotel could drive one tenth of a mile and get on The Ohio Turnpike
    • Tseirpa  •  7 mths ago
      no where in the story does it support that she berated the mother. she asked the mom to distract and/or quiet the child. Then she asked them to please get off the bus. A screaming child is extremely distracting because the sound is not steady nor is does it usualy follow a pattern ( allowing your brain to filter it out like you can usually do with music). if it is low pitched and suddenly gets really high pitched.. well a usual response to a scream or a cry is to look for the source. Definately not good for a bus driver. And this is a natural automatic reaction.
      Also please note that this is the 57 line, which runs around every 15min and follows a fairly populated area filled with stores and fast food places. This would have allowed the mother to go to a restroom and check to make sure that her child was not actually hurting. If she couldnt settle the child down then something was obviously wrong because most kids if its just because they arent getting their way can be distracted or will fall asleep exhausted after a few minutes of crying.
    • Annie-g  •  7 mths ago
      'Fetsch said drivers can take steps if they believe their safety is in jeopardy, but policy prevents them from removing people "of a "vulnerable population." What does a "vulnerable population" mean in reference to what the driver did?
      • General Jackson Harrison 7 mths ago
        Can you say "Minorities"?
      • Chi P 7 mths ago
        I'm sure it encompasses a nice list of people from the elderly to handicapped people, mothers with children under two, etc. Use your imagination.
      • many rips 7 mths ago
        Bet she was illegal. Could not speak English!!!!
    • 2 Party System is BROKEN  •  7 mths ago
      I hate when people bring a baby to the movie theater...
      • Michelle 7 mths ago
        How is that related?!
      • Mary and Michael 7 mths ago
        Probably the the thing I hate more is a young mother addicted to tanning who takes a newborn in the tanning bed with her.
      • Louis 7 mths ago
        If a newborn has certain types of jaundice, phototherapy (ultraviolet light therapy) is actually the treatment of choice, but using a tanning bed might do more harm than good.
    • Robin  •  7 mths ago
      so if we are going to start throwing people off of public transportation buses then I can think of many unruly teenagers and adults that should be the first ones to go.
    • Bah  •  7 mths ago
      As much as you non-parents think that all parents are oblivious to their kids screams and can just easily ignore it, you're highly mistaken. No parent enjoys their kid acting out this way, especially in public where everyone stares, mutters, and judges you. Sometimes though, with kids this young, there is nothing you can do but to wait it out. It's hard, embarrassing, and makes you feel inadequate; but sometimes it's all you can do. The way this driver acted was completely inappropriate. It wasn't as if this mother had her screaming child in a movie theater and was refusing to leave until the baby stopped; no, this mother was just trying to get somewhere.
    • Parsley  •  7 mths ago
      There are a lot of people who would just love to have that job!
    • award-winning cold plate ...  •  7 mths ago
      The USA is one strange place!
    • gregh  •  7 mths ago
      ah.. portland the touchy feely city
    • pH  •  7 mths ago
      HAD been working.
    • Robert  •  7 mths ago
      Some days are like that - call in well and stay home.
    • Big Bagel  •  7 mths ago
      The #1 rule on the bus is: do not distract the driver.
    • Oily Tats  •  7 mths ago
      The heroes always get punished first.

      That is really too sad.
    • JesseD  •  7 mths ago
      Every time I ride the bus, there is always a screaming child, wailing its head off, while the mother just looks on. Then of course when you cant stand it anymore and say "are you going to attend to your child?" they yell back: "don't tell me how to be a parent" this is whats wrong with our culture, no one accepts responsibility, even for their own children.
    • Ken  •  7 mths ago
      Crying is one thing. We all know babys cry. I'm sure in ten years the driver had to deal with that at some time. But a screaming cry is hard to deal with and can be hard to concentrate. I agree with the driver on that part if the baby was SCREEMING CONSTANTLY. It seems the driver lost her patience and could of handled it better. Policy puts any driver in a bad situation. Its true a CONSTANTLY SCREAMING child can really be hard to deal with whille driving, but when you can't ask them to get off, makes it harder. There are things we don't know from this sory so we should not be too harsh on eithert side. We were not witness to actually loud it was.
    • rayt  •  7 mths ago
      I am a recent grandpa with a 6 month old have been playing nursemaid for 12 hours a day and its not easy babies cry for several reasons and if they are ill no one can stop her . Im sure the mother would like a baby thats not crying. My hats off to mothers out their they have a hard job.
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