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    Candidates seek to limit federal role in education

    WASHINGTON (AP) — When it comes to education, the Republican field of presidential candidates has a unified stance: Get the federal government out of schools. How they'd do that varies.

    Take the Education Department. Reps. Michele Bachmann and Ron Paul along with Texas Gov. Rick Perry want to shut it down altogether, while Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich want to shrink it. Offering student loans? Herman Cain says the department should get out of that business.

    And then there's the Bush-era education accountability law, No Child Left Behind. Perry calls it a "direct assault on federalism," while former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman has long expressed animosity toward the law.

    Although former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has said "we need to get the federal government out of education," he has been more willing to praise certain Education Department policies.

    While polls show that voters clearly care about education, it hasn't been a driving issue in the race. Instead, it percolates at times. When it does, the dialogue — like many other issues in the race — has been primarily focused on the general theme of limiting the federal role more than on specific education policies.

    Any comments of praise of a federal education policy can lead to accusations that a candidate supports federal overreach, said Frederick Hess, director of education policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute.

    For example, after Romney praised the Education Department's "Race to the Top" program, which has had states competing for billions in grant dollars, Perry called Romney out on it during a Sept. 22 debate saying, "Being in favor of the Obama 'Race to the Top,' that is not conservative."

    Generally, the candidates support more school choice options for students.

    Limiting the federal government's role in education isn't a new argument among conservatives, many of whom disagreed with the decision to create a Cabinet-level department during the Carter administration.

    President George W. Bush took a different view. He campaigned heavily in 2000 on the passage of No Child Left Behind and the need for tough assessment standards, specifically to help low income and minority children. Under No Child Left Behind, which was signed in 2002 with widespread bipartisan support, students are tested annually and schools that don't meet proficiency requirements face sanctions. The law, however, has become increasingly unpopular with critics saying it's too rigid, led to schools being unfairly deemed as "failures" and to teachers teaching to the test.

    Many other Republicans went along — at least early on.

    Santorum voted for the law.

    When Texas' plan on No Child Left Behind was approved in 2002, Perry proudly said that "Texas was a model" for the national law and that the approval meant Texas would receive almost $400 million in new federal funding.

    And in 2005, Romney testified on Capitol Hill in praise of the law. "I do look to the federal government to help set the benchmark where we can compare to how well we are performing, and, if we are not performing, to insist that we do the job or that we suffer the consequences at the state or local level," Romney said.

    The candidates' records on education are revealing.

    Bachmann has said she was driven to first run for office because of concerns over the education her more than 20 foster children were receiving. Two years ago, Gingrich hit the road with the Rev. Al Sharpton, a liberal civil right advocate, on a listening tour on education that Education Secretary Arne Duncan joined.

    Huntsman, as Utah governor, signed a law in 2005 that defied the No Child Left Behind Act by giving the state's education standards priority over the federal requirements.

    Perry has refused to have Texas adopt curriculum standards adopted by nearly every state or have his state compete in the Race to the Top competition, saying it "smacks of a federal takeover of public schools." Perry's positions helped earn him a rebuff by Duncan that he felt "very, very badly for the children" of Texas.

    Romney used to support closing the Education Department, but in 2007 he said he'd come to see the value of the federal government's role.

    In recent months, President Barack Obama has brought education back into the national political realm. He announced states could apply for waivers around many of the proficiency requirements in No Child Left Behind if they met certain requirements. He advocated for the passage of a jobs creation bill rejected by the Senate that included $30 billion to hire educators.

    And, Obama announced he was using executive authority to allow potentially millions of qualified students and college graduates to consolidate their loans and accelerate a program that based payment options on income.

    The announcement on student loans sparked some discussion among the GOP candidates at a forum. Bachmann said Obama's effort was an "abuse of power" that will give people incentives to dodge debt. Gingrich said government loans should be reprivatized before Obama bankrupts the entire country "by promising to every young person you will not have to pay your student loan as a student."

    And Cain said that, "I do not believe it's the responsibility of the federal government to help fund college education."

    Margaret Spellings, who served as education secretary under Bush, said the anti-federal talk on education among GOP candidates concerns her. She said the candidates should be speaking primarily about the needs of kids over adults and better ways to close achievement gaps and educate poor and minority kids — things she said she's not hearing about as much as she'd like. She said she wonders what would happen to important programs under a dissolved Education Department, such as educating disabled children.

    "The federal role in education has always been around the needs of poor and disadvantaged kids, so I'd like to see the focus on that, I'd like to see talk of accountability," Spellings said.

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    • PaulH  •  Kalamazoo, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Funny how all the other candidates are starting to take Ron Paul's ideas and the media act like they are the first to introduce them. They ignore all of Paul's very good ideas and say he's crazy, but as the other candidates start to claim those ideas, the media covers them. What a sorry state of democracy we have. Media determines who the people will vote for and we let them do it.
      • Fred 6 mths ago
        Ron Paul is right! He has my vote.
      • Horus 6 mths ago
        And you wonder why in America no one takes any of them seriously... ?
      • Lt. Dan 6 mths ago
        Ron Paul has no chance of being nominated as the GOP's candidate. He has a few good ideas but most of his ideas are not only unsound they are dangerous to the security of our country.
    • howard h  •  Phoenix, United States  •  6 mths ago
      all students MUST be legal citizens and all states must have an active "trade school" option
    • Synical1  •  6 mths ago
      Sure, federal standards need to be set. But, it should be left to the states on how to achieve those standards.
      And, with an average annual budget of $100 billion, the DOE has become nothing more than a political money pit where political cronies go to boost their retirement.
      • Lt. Dan 6 mths ago
        The best thing that could be done for public education in the country would be to get the federal governemnt completely out of it -- along with the NEA teacher's union.
    • Rasser  •  6 mths ago
      Yeah, the republicans wouldn't want their voters to be educated enough to figure out how badly all these tax cuts for the rich are lowering their standard of living by just giving their money away.

      Republicans: An ignorant voter is our kind of voter.
    • BobB  •  6 mths ago
      Again, pandering to the misguided, it's a race to see who can follow up with the best sound bite. As it currently costs about $12,000 per student to go to public school every year, how do they propose to pay for that without federal funds? 2 kids in school at $24,000 per year would be quite a hike in your property taxes. Most Asian and European countries fully fund their students for college level education-and they're kicking butts around the world in math and science. Without providing the best in education this will become "No Nation Left Behind".
      • Montana Clem 6 mths ago
        Maybe those taxes paid to the fed could be paid to the state??? What a novel idea! Pay same taxes but just to the state and remove several layers o beauracracy
      • Mac 6 mths ago
        I live in a Semi Rural Area. Our cost 1s much closer to 19,000 Dollars a Year.
      • Roe 6 mths ago
        Rick Scott would take the money and give breaks to his corporate friends..Oh wait, he did that already...cut funding to schools but gave corporate a tax break...
    • Gigi  •  6 mths ago
      Education has been replaced in America by the fast track to get rich. What a shame, we used to be on top. The fact ANYONE wants to get rid of the dept. is insane while the USA drop further and further down the list of educated peoples.....
      • Lt. Dan 6 mths ago
        The federal government has destroyed public education. When our public education was the best in the world it was being handled by the individual states without federal government interference. The federal government has a record of screwing up almost everything it tries to manage.
      • Gigi 6 mths ago
        I don't drink 'kool aid' and I'm not into negativity just for the sake of being negative. Don't like it - MOVE. LOL!
      • Gigi 6 mths ago
        Maybe Forrest can explain it to you.....
    • Charles  •  6 mths ago
      ...but what about bushes "no child left behind" thought you repubs worshiped him and all his "accomplishments".
    • Roe  •  6 mths ago
      theses #$%$ are so afraid that people may get an education and realize what a bunch of #$%$ these candidates are. As each one holds out their hand for aid, they are willing to cut back so students who can be productive are left out in the cold because they do not have the monetary means. and please, don't tell me they should get a job to pay for college. What companies are paying wouldn't pay for books and why should they not be allowed to give more time to studying. The last thing we need is privatizing education. Is it any wonder we are lagging behind other countries when we have the likes of Rick Scott (fla. gov.) making sure education is so under funded it's a hardship to teach children even the basics.
    • SC4ME  •  Poway, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Gingrich said government loans should be reprivatized before Obama bankrupts the entire country "by promising to every young person you will not have to pay your student loan as a student."

      The law already states that as a student all student loans are automatically deferred. It is only when the person is no longer attending college that payment is required. Silly Newt.
      • Ed 6 mths ago
        Obama is not talking about deferred, he is talking about people who is out of school. Silly Obama
    • Eli  •  Pekin, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Leave it up to the states.
    • Linda155  •  Rutland, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Just after the fall of the communists in the Soviet Union, we were corresponding with a young couple in St. Petersburg. I tried to explain our education system to them - or rather the thousands of local school boards who control education at a local level. The couple had a simple reaction - "Are you Americans nuts?" Seems they could move across the country and their daughter wouldn't lose a single day of instruction. We moved from Florida to Georgia and our daughter during high school lost a whole level of math and science classes.
    • Robert  •  Oklahoma City, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Prior to federal money going to education, we had the best educational system in the world. One can make any claim they want, but the statistics will prove that it started to decline as more federal money went to public education. With federal money both public, and higher education cost have risen, because more money was guarantee to flow from the federal goverment.
    • wes  •  Savannah, United States  •  6 mths ago
      After teaching for 6 years, I discovered that there are many great teachers. Unfortunately the government has this compelling need to tell everyone what they should do to teach and raise your children. The government can't even balance a budget or tell the truth in any endeavor that they seem to address. Get the government out of the education business, they are completely ignorant of what it takes to educate the children.
    • W  •  Pompano Beach, United States  •  6 mths ago
      If all agree that education should be a priority, it doesn't send a good message to the country and the rest of the world if we just eliminate the department.
    • W  •  Pompano Beach, United States  •  6 mths ago
      I can find many problems with the current education system, very few of which I would blame on the education department or the federal government.
    • J.Galt  •  Hutchinson, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Look at the test scores before big brother took over the schools and compare them to the scores today. Big brother has failed at educating the young in this country.
      It turned into a vote buying adjenda. The teachers are told how to vote by their union.
    • jla  •  Visalia, United States  •  6 mths ago
      how does spending money you don't have help? how much of your income do you want to pay in taxes? 50%, 60% what's your limit? assuming you do work for a living. I bet you pay your credit card bill with another credit card
    • Mike Damone  •  6 mths ago
      The ugly systems you witness are your communities, and you're either to powerless or cowardess to correct it

      It's not the federal gov't's problem, and everyone of these politicians seem awfully eager to shun the responsibilites of the system at their level. There's a smart display of leadership.
    • barryh  •  St. Louis, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Each state has their own department of education...Let each state figure out what is appropriate for them. We have so many layers of bureaucracy now...I support reducing the federal role in education.
    • Number 6  •  6 mths ago
      Why does the GOP always attack education in this country?

      Simple - an educated and informed voter is the GOP's worst enemy.

      It's also why they would love to kill 'net neutrality' - so the GOP and the corporate pals essentially dictate what information is made available for public consumption and scrutiny.
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