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    CIA spy plane loss exposes covert US-Iran conflict

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The loss to Iran of the CIA's surveillance drone bristling with advanced spy technology is more than a propaganda coup and intelligence windfall for the Tehran government. The plane's capture has peeled back another layer of secrecy from expanding U.S. operations against Iran's nuclear and military programs.

    Like the Soviet Union's downing of the American U-2 spy plane during the Cold War, Iran's recovery of the drone has cast a spotlight on part of the U.S.-Iran spycraft.

    Iran has charged the U.S. or its allies with waging a campaign of cyberwarfare and sabotage, and of assassinating some Iranian scientists. The U.S. has accused the Iranian government of helping kill U.S. troops in Afghanistan and plotting to murder the Saudi ambassador in Washington.

    "It's beginning to look like there's a thinly-veiled, increasingly violent, global cloak-and-dagger game afoot," Thomas Donnelly, a former government official and military expert with the American Enterprise Institute, said at a Washington conference.

    The covert operations in play are "much bigger than people appreciate," said Stephen Hadley, former national security adviser under President George W. Bush. "But the U.S. needs to be using everything it can."

    Hadley said that if Iran continues to defy U.N. resolutions and doesn't curb its nuclear ambitions, the quiet conflict "will only get nastier."

    Some historians and foreign policy experts compared the drone incident to the Soviet Union's 1960 downing of the U-2 spy plane and pilot Francis Gary Powers. While those two countries sparred publicly on many issues, the world only occasionally glimpsed each side's secret operations.

    "When I first heard about the drone, my first thought was thank goodness there wasn't a pilot in it," said Francis Gary Powers Jr., the son of the U-2 pilot and founder of the Cold War Museum.

    "They were both on intelligence-gathering missions. They were both doing photo reconnaissance. They were both supporting the U.S. government's intelligence-gathering to find out intelligence about our adversaries," Powers said. The difference this time, Powers said, was that "there are no family members that have to be notified, there's no prisoner in a foreign country."

    The U-2 downing shocked U.S. military planners, who thought the advanced aircraft flew too high to be hit by a Soviet missile. Likewise, Iran says it used advanced electronic warfare measures to detect, hack and bring down an RQ-170 Sentinel drone.

    Iran aired TV footage Thursday of what current and former U.S. officials confirm is the missing Sentinel. The robotic aircraft suffered what appeared to be only minimal damage.

    Iran protested Friday to the United Nations about what it described as "provocative and covert operations" by the U.S. The Tehran government called the flight by the drone a "blatant and unprovoked air violation" that was "tantamount to an act of hostility."

    American officials said Friday that U.S. intelligence assessments indicate that Iran played no role in the downing, either by shooting it down or using electronic or cybertechnology to force it from the sky. They contended the drone malfunctioned. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss the classified program.

    Some U.S. experts expressed skepticism that Iran would be capable of such hacking. But others said Iran's capacity to counter drones may have been bolstered by Russia's decision, announced in October, to sell Tehran an advanced truck-mounted electronic intelligence system.

    The RQ-170 is stealthy but not infallible, said robotics expert Peter Singer of the Brookings Institution think tank in Washington.

    Singer, who has written extensively about drones, noted Russia's announcement about the sale of an undisclosed number of truck-mounted electronic intelligence systems, called the IL-222 Avtobaza, to Tehran.

    He said the equipment included "really good electronic warfare gear," citing reports that its radars were designed to detect drones and included other equipment intended to intercept their data communications.

    No country has demonstrated that it can seize control of a spy drone remotely, said Theodore Karasik, a security expert at the Dubai-based Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis.

    But if any could, Karasik said, the likely candidates would include China and Russia, which has conducted research on the subject. Karasik said either country might have aided Iran against the U.S.

    The stealth drone is especially useful to the U.S. because it provides what is called "persistent surveillance" of Iran's nuclear sites.

    The U.S. and its allies suspect Iran is building a nuclear weapons complex under cover of a civilian program, a charge that Tehran adamantly denies.

    John Pike of GlobalSecurity.org, an expert on defense and intelligence policy, said that continuous surveillance of such sites from aerial drones can help intelligence analysts track vehicles to other facilities.

    The images also can tell military planners when most workers at a site are expected to be on the job, he said, in the event the president orders a military strike against Iran's nuclear program. 

    "They want to bomb the buildings housing people when the largest numbers of people are present," Pike said, noting that similar weapons-development efforts have depended much more on the technicians, scientists and other experts than on their physical structures. "The people can rebuild the buildings, the buildings cannot rebuild the people," he said.

    Experts said the drone probably carried an advanced radar system as well as other specialized sensors, including detectors for monitoring nuclear sites. If those were reverse-engineered by Iran, they could give insights into how to hide its nuclear facilities from the U.S. surveillance.

    Russia, China, North Korea and others may be interested in examining the Sentinel. For example, U.S. drones have advanced engines that allow them to remain patrolling an area for days. China is thought to be struggling to master this technology.

    Singer said it would be difficult for any country to exploit the technological bonanza of a downed Sentinel, but having one to pull apart will give them a start.

    "Bottom line, it's never easy to reverse-engineer anything, let alone something like a radar, but having a working or even damaged system in hand to study up close makes it a heck of a lot easier," he said.

    Francis Gary Powers Jr. noted that spy technology advances quickly.

    Powers said that the CIA suspended U-2 flights for several months after his father was shot down, but by then the U.S. had launched its first reconnaissance satellite, which could gather vastly more information.

    ___

    Associated Press reporters Lolita Baldor and Kimberly Dozier in Washington and Adam Schreck in Dubai contributed to this report.

     

    94 comments

    • hyspeed66  •  Aurora, United States  •  5 mths ago
      are these drones able to carry nukes,, then put them to work,,, iran is our enemy , lots worse than any county on this planet,,,, NUKE the MF,, and blame the Brits,, lmwfwao. not later now,, now and now,,,, and those in foggy bottom know whats at stake,,, stop kissing nobamama ass and just do it,,, what they going to do,, send you back to vietman,, LOL!!
      • SohoBobo 5 mths ago
        Too much crank there, Speedo.
      • wombat 5 mths ago
        Hyspeed66. What are you smoking or have been through the CIIA/Pentagon free lobotomy program.
        Name one conflict that Iran has launched anywhere in the last 150 years.

        The sooner the population of the USA wake up to just what damage the power drunk idiots at the CIA and Pentagon have done to the international standing of the USA , the sooner they might put them back into their box when they vote.

        The CIA Pentagon have never got over the fact that common Iranians gave the puppet shar the flick back in the 1970s. The USA has had their asses handed to them in every conflict in which they have been involved ever since..

        Whether it sticks in their craw or not The USA is not the axis on which the world turns.

        That is a fact of life.
      • Karl Hand 5 mths ago
        Iran is no enemy of mine. The Jews are the mortal enemy of the white race. Want more info.? Check out the website for the Racial Nationalist Party of America. I dare ya!
    • Charles  •  5 mths ago
      I thought we have satellites capable of reading the print on a quarter laying on the ground from outer space, what are we doing with drones if we have the ability to do surveillance with such good resolution from orbit and out of reach of enemies (without it being obvious who).
      • serious 5 mths ago
        smelling for nuclear activity
      • Irene Kirchoff 5 mths ago
        Satellites cant hover around a site for hours like a drone can. They have a small window over a particular site as they are orbiting the earth.
      • codewalker 5 mths ago
        rat bait
    • LoveAddict  •  Little Rock, United States  •  5 mths ago
      This is it our govt. scares other countries into doing something then attacks and the share holders of the munitions companies make the BIG NO BID CONTRACT money.
    • Me  •  5 mths ago
      Continuing massive terrorist attacks by the USI prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, that unless Iran attains nuclear weapons, they will be terrorist attacked and decimated like Iraq.
    • GoneFishin'!  •  Zion, United States  •  5 mths ago
      I'm sure we have another drone already looking at Iran. Next time use a satellite.
    • David  •  Seattle, United States  •  5 mths ago
      see the poll by yahoo on the most important issue in the coming elections. debt is not even mentioned. how out of touch is the world with what the problem is. look at europe and how we got into this recession. nough said.
    • Stephensonog  •  Macon, United States  •  5 mths ago
      "covert" lol
    • Brian D  •  Reading, United States  •  5 mths ago
      laides and gents. there is nothing covert about our operations in Iran....
    • Johnny Masonic  •  Austin, United States  •  5 mths ago
      It's an act of WAR against Iran. I'm stunned they haven't retaliated in full against the Zionist mass murderers.
    • Stanley  •  Paducah, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Send in a trojan spy drone filled with a nuke let them gather it up and donate it
    • fanningmamma  •  Gainesville, United States  •  5 mths ago
      i can't believe with the technology today that if the drone malfunctions they would have it destroy itself!!!
    • Stanley  •  Paducah, United States  •  5 mths ago
      THE proof iran has now the world knows we are watching the towel heads build the bomb good luck rag heads lol
    • Decomo  •  5 mths ago
      Iran officials are getting free chowmein delivered from the Chinese Embassy on top getting free vodka delivered from the Russian Embassy. In return, the Chinese and Russian embassadors are getting private preview of the drone.
    • Jim  •  5 mths ago
      No wonder America is so broke with these war-pigs running 24/7 with their covert operations. I say we disband the CIA and the Pentagon, and instead put the resources into growing good food and making our own clothing and products here in the USA again. War pigs need to go 2012. Vote Ron Paul.
    • Peter  •  5 mths ago
      The Solution for the conflict will be 3.ww and the end effect will be that the astronauts in the space station dont will find a place where to comeback or have to stay up there for yaers...or have to go directely to the mars where is more cleaner than the earth....
    • A  •  5 mths ago
      So are they going to sell it to china now?
    • Pata hai  •  5 mths ago
      USA should apologize to Iran for breaking international laws of air defense and spying on Iran,this is the live proof which can not be denied,US is lying to their teeth like Israelis on peace with pals,oh I forgot they are partners in lying and deceiving.
      • Allan 5 mths ago
        stick it pata hai,you must be a chinese commie
      • TLO 5 mths ago
        Nah, Americans will never admit or apologize. That's their style, a kind of imprint in their brains.
    • ricardo  •  5 mths ago
      Next time don't use Microsoft Windows to control the drones
    • Pata hai  •  5 mths ago
      "They want to bomb the buildings housing people when the largest numbers of people are present," so now US govt want to kill innocent non military persons,and will justify it by saying everything is fare in war?if the same thing is done by the other countries US is the first one to condem and attack,shame on you.
      • Allan 5 mths ago
        you like downgrading my country, i know its not your's get him cia
      • CardiacCard 5 mths ago
        The scientist either flip or get bombed. It's war. If you help build bombs and components for the military use, then you have taken an active role in the war. hence, getting bombed. We will get ours eventually, regardless of what most Americans think. Our time is coming.
      • Kevin 5 mths ago
        NATO killed over 50,000 innocent people to protect the al Qaeda rebels in Libya.
    • Gemcitykid  •  Fargo, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Umm.. we didn't lose a drone, remember? Oh, I'm sorry. Did someone lie....? So the next time my government tells me something, should I believe it? The hypocrisy is sickening. We learned as childrent hat our country represented the "Good Guys". That ended about 1820.
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