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    Congress may try blocking cuts if debt panel fails

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Failure by Congress' debt-cutting supercommittee to recommend $1.2 trillion in savings by Wednesday is supposed to automatically trigger spending cuts in the same amount to accomplish that job.

    But the same legislators who concocted that budgetary booby trap just four months ago could end up spending the 2012 election year and beyond battling over defusing it.

    Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., say they are writing legislation to prevent what they say would be devastating cuts to the military. House Republicans are exploring a similar move. Democrats maintain they won't let domestic programs be the sole source of savings.

    In the face of those efforts, President Barack Obama has told the debt panel's co-chairmen that he "will not accept any measure that attempts to turn off the automatic cut trigger," White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters last week. The leaders of both parties in the House and Senate have expressed similar sentiments — seemingly making any attempt to restore the money futile.

    "Yes, I would feel bound by it," House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said recently of the automatic cuts. "It was part of the agreement."

    But that doesn't mean rank-and-file lawmakers won't try to block the cuts, or that viewpoints might not change if the right deal is offered — especially in the hothouse atmosphere of next year's presidential and congressional campaign or its aftermath.

    With nearly $500 billion in defense spending and an equal amount of domestic dollars at stake, plenty of lawmakers are ready to try blocking all or parts of those automatic cuts, if only to win favor from backers of programs whose funds are on the chopping block.

    "I have no doubt that there will be efforts to turn it off," said Maya MacGuineas, president of the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. "Never underestimate the willingness of politicians to try to avoid making some of the hard choices."

    It's unclear how successful such an effort would be. Not only would an Obama veto be tough to overcome, but pressure from the financial markets on politicians to rein in the government's huge budget shortfalls could keep lawmakers from easing the automatic reductions.

     

    The automatic cuts, enacted in this summer's debt-limit deal between Obama and congressional Republicans, were designed to be so distasteful that they would add pressure on the supercommittee to craft a compromise.

    "I would have hoped it would have been a deterrent to those who have taken an oath to Grover Norquist that defense of our country" is less important than tax cuts, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Friday, in a dig at Republicans who signed a pledge from the conservative activist to not raise taxes.

    But with prospects dimming for a bipartisan accord by the supercommittee on a deficit-reduction package by this week's deadline, it appears increasingly likely that members of Congress will have to live with the automatic cuts — or "sequestration" — that they built into the law. Little progress was made over the weekend as Democrats and Republicans traded barbs over which party was responsible for gridlock on the 12-member supercommittee.

    And while lawmakers of all stripes agree that automatic, across-the-board cuts are no way to run the federal government, the threat hasn't outweighed the differences between the six Democrats and six Republicans on the deficit panel. Democrats are demanding significant tax increases in exchange for savings from expensive benefit programs, while Republicans are refusing to accept such revenue boosts.

    The debt-limit agreement requires automatic cuts of $1.2 trillion if the supercommittee produces nothing or if Congress fails to approve a package of that size by Christmas.

    If the debt panel produces less than $1.2 trillion in savings, automatic cuts are activated to make up the difference. So $800 billion in savings from the supercommittee would trigger $400 billion in automatic cuts.

    By law, 18 percent of the automatic savings are assumed to come from interest costs the government would save from reducing the debt. If the supercommittee fails completely, out of the $1.2 trillion in automatic savings, $216 billion would be assumed interest savings.

    That would leave $984 billion in automatic spending cuts. They are supposed to start in 2013 and be spread evenly over the next nine years, divided equally between defense and domestic programs. That works out to around $55 billion annually each from defense and domestic programs.

    The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has estimated that for the Pentagon, that would mean a 10 percent cut in its $550 billion budget in 2013 — a huge hit.

    "Unless we act today, the dismantling of the greatest armed forces in history could begin tomorrow," Rep. Howard P. McKeon, R-Calif., chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, wrote supercommittee leaders on Friday in a letter warning them of the consequences of the automatic defense reductions.

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., has said he wants to stick with the automatic cuts but would like to reshape them so they rely less heavily on defense.

    Several lawmakers talked of the possibility of easing the impact of the automatic cuts on defense in interviews on Sunday news programs.

    Rep. Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas, co-chairman of the supercommittee, said he hopes the current projected split of half defense, half domestic, for the automatic spending cuts will be changed in the event no deal emerges from his panel.

    "But I am committed to insuring that the American people get that deficit reduction that they were promised," he said on Fox News Sunday. "But under the law, Congress will have 13 months to do that I n a smarter, more prudent fashion."

    "Maybe sequestration is our only way we will get any kind of cuts," Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., said on CNN's "State of the Union."

    Sen. Jon Kyl, an Arizona Republican, said on NBC's "Meet the Press" he believes the Pentagon cuts would be devastating. "But we do have the opportunity, even if the committee fails, to work around the sequester so that we still have $1.2 trillion in savings over 10 years, but it's not done in the very Draconian way that Secretary Panetta is referring to."

    Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass., said, "If they're going to try to protect defense, there'll be pushback."

    On the domestic side, the law exempts Social Security, Medicaid and many veterans' benefits and low-income programs. It also limits Medicare to a 2 percent reduction.

    Still, that leaves education, agriculture and the environment programs exposed to cuts of around 8 percent in 2013, CBO says. For many Democrats, those are cuts worth fighting against, especially if Republicans try protecting defense programs.

    The temptation to block the automatic cuts could grow even larger right after the 2012 elections, depending on the results.

    The 2001 and 2003 tax cuts enacted under President George W. Bush are scheduled to expire in January 2013. Extending them is a top GOP priority, while Democrats want to let them expire for the highest-earning Americans.

    If either party wins White House and congressional control, its members could be ready to reshape both the automatic spending cuts and the tax cuts to their liking.

    ___

    Associated Press writer Donna Cassata contributed to this report.

     
    • Jason  •  6 mths ago
      "Never underestimate the willingness of politicians to try to avoid making some of the hard choices."

      Truer words have never been said.
      • John Thomas 6 mths ago
        Agree entirely. They are a spineless lot caught up in ideology and a lust for power at all cost.
      • Lain Forseti 6 mths ago
        It is true, and extremely sad.
      • Truth 6 mths ago
        Dont forget the Kenyon in the white house that created this mess in the first place !!!
    • The Right thing!  •  6 mths ago
      This is even all about votes in November! We as Americans, want our country back from these career crooks!
      • Steve 6 mths ago
        Just VOTE the incumbents out....... Easy if you don't vote for a political party..
      • A Yahoo! User 6 mths ago
        You mean from the RepubliCLOWNS.
        The orange, crying, one is smirking at you.
      • dntbtnm 6 mths ago
        Private Citizen APS
        So, you are saying it's all the republicans fault. Open your eyes idiot. Both parties far left and right are to blame. Common Sense and Logic has no place for these idiots.
    • .  •  6 mths ago
      Congress lacks ethics and moral character and it's time to remove them at the polls.
      • Richard Simmons 6 mths ago
        congress and Senate. don't listen to your home state law makers. They just want to get re elected and #$%$ more. They are all the blame. i intend to vote against Snowe in Maine. She is also part of the problem Its time they felt OUR pain
      • Lobo 6 mths ago
        They lack honesty, integrity, and honor. They are the most corrupt bunch that has ever held political office in the history of this nation. They make secretive pacts with each other and foreigners in blood and create laws that regulate everyone but only benefit themselves and their friends. This is treason and illegal and they should be brought to justice. Impeach Congress now! They have a single digit approval rating! Do we need it to get to zero before we take action?
      • LostFarmer 6 mths ago
        Remember we voted for them. Vote only for people with honest, integrity and honor, no matter what party they belong to. Their personal life does effect their public life. A #$%$ in personal life is a #$%$ in public life and can not be trusted.
    • jeffreyjoson  •  Darien, United States  •  6 mths ago
      HOW ABOUT AUTOMATIC CUTS TO CONGRESS !
      • Smitty Weston 6 mths ago
        AMEN!
      • Ranger 6 mths ago
        Maybe Rick Perry is on to something. If they aren't going to do anything, then maybe they should just be in session part time.
      • dntbtnm 6 mths ago
        Taxpayers are screwed once again.

        The mistakes, blunders, self serving causes, pork belly outlays, and just outright thievery by our elected spineless politicians and their appointees caused these present problems.

        The people with good intentions that are left have to suffer and pay for the entitlement receivers that abuse the system, including illegal’s and anchor babies (and their cheating parent/s).

        Close the borders to illegals and stop all moneys, school costs, and free medical to all illegals. Why should the taxpayers have to pay for freeloaders and frauds ?

        Stop the Anchor babies. This is the only country that allows babies born to illegals in country citizenship. STOP IT NOW !

        Stop the welfare fraud, food stamp fraud, disability fraud,medicare fraud, and other fraudulent thievery of the "entitlement" systems.

        Drug test for all recipients of the "entitlement" assistance programs. We have to take drug tests to be employed, why not to receive taxpayers money ?

        That "Might" help to slow down the leaks.

        The US. Treasury takes in about $200 billion a month and sends out $340 billion a month. That's a $140 billion a month shortfall paid on credit. You could raise the taxes on the top 2% to 100% and it won't cover it. How about spreading the tax burden into the +-49% who pay NO income taxes? Nah, that's racist.... sheesh.
    • Steve  •  6 mths ago
      Congress = Failure
      • A Yahoo! User 6 mths ago
        President = failure of leadership
      • buddy 6 mths ago
        senate= failure
      • Lain Forseti 6 mths ago
        The president wouldn't fail if congress would pass some of his proposals. Or at least, offer to meet midway. A house divided cannot stand....
    • ☺   •  Auburn Hills, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Folks. This is a PRIME EXAMPLE that nobody in Washington has a clue - and they don't mean what they say. They thought they could push the responsibility off onto 12 others. When that group also fails to achieve a solution, and they will, ALL legislators will reneg and we'll be back to more of 'NOTHING DONE'.
      I say, Flush Washington down the Patomac.
    • me  •  6 mths ago
      congress should wear those jump suits the nascar drivers wear,that have all those stickers on them showing your coporate sponsors, it would be easier to know who to vote in and out,lol
    • charmonium5  •  Fullerton, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Here is the issue in stark relief. Many Congressmen do not have the courage of their convictions.
    • Local Crank  •  Petaluma, United States  •  6 mths ago
      The 9% who approve of Congress's performance are going to have a tough time justifying this one...
    • David  •  6 mths ago
      FACT: Congress has the lowest approval rating of any institution in America.
      FACT: Most Congresscritters will be re-elected, because while most people agree that Congress as a whole s*u*c*k*s, they think their own representative is doing a good job.
      FACT: It never gets any better.
    • Display name  •  San Diego, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Interesting money making scheme politicians don't want you to know about(both parties):

      1) Politicians buy stock in companies bidding for government and military contracts.
      2) Those companies give an inflated budget estimate over other bidding companies.
      3) Those politicians get contracts awarded to those companies.
      4) Those companies make a huge profit at taxpayer expense.
      5) Those politicians make a huge profit off those companies.
      6) The profit those companies make goes into reelection campaigns.
      7) Your taxpayer money flows indirectly to corrupt politicians' wallets and campaigns.

      Lets see how they react to legislation banning stock options for people holding office.
    • Michael  •  6 mths ago
      Im looking forward to 2012. I predict a major turn over in congress.
    • N.  •  6 mths ago
      They should sell tickets to watch them "work". Where else can you watch more Clowns then the Circus?
    • mike  •  Grand Rapids, United States  •  6 mths ago
      "Writing legislation." What a joke! Purge the rat's nest in 2012.
    • relix  •  6 mths ago
      when i was in the army, the army did it's own laundry... had army cooks, too- now they sub it out to halliburton at $1000 dollars a load. cut it. cut it deep.
    • Ranger  •  6 mths ago
      The time has come to forget that we are Republicans or Democrats and vote against every incumbent who is up for re-election. We need to vote all of the current politicians out of office and start over.
    • jeffreyjoson  •  Darien, United States  •  6 mths ago
      OCCUPY CONGRESS !! GET RID OF THESE JERKS !!
    • Michael  •  6 mths ago
      I can't wait to vote in 2012.
    • Royal1  •  6 mths ago
      Why in the hell are we giving money to other countries and its money we have to borrow from China this is insanity on the part of DC
    • Last American Hero  •  Atlanta, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Let the cuts begin!
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