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    Could music stream ripping software put Spotify and other music services at major risk?

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    The music industry has been forced to reinvent itself thanks to the Internet. Ever since Napster first appeared on the scene, consumers have been finding ways to get their music for free, at the detriment of recording labels and artists. One answer to this issue has been the subscription music model: Services like Spotify, Last.fm, MOG, and Rdio are compromises between a market that is searching for profit models and customers who simply won’t spend what they used to.

    How well this new business model works is up for debate. Indie artists say they’re getting ripped off by such services, and some established musicians won’t allow their music to be sold this way. Selling access to music rather than selling the commodity is a very new idea, and one with its drawbacks and benefits. While in the case of most services consumers don’t actually have ownership over this data, it has largely been linked to cutting down on piracy.

    Still, there are always ways around this. Via stream ripping, users are still able to pirate music, even within what are supposed to be safe harbors for artists.

    And Spotify is one of the services to fall victim to the tool. The site is still relatively new to the U.S., but sites like SpotifyRipper and dozens like it give users a loophole in the system so they can get their music for free. Using applications like ReplayMusic, they can record from the service to access the music offline.

    “This is a grey area as the concept has not been tested in court,” according to the SpotifyRip website. “However it’s legal to record from Internet radio and it could be said that Spotify is a type of Internet radio.” Still, the site admits this is against Spotify’s user policy. There are such services available for a variety of applications, like MOG and Pandora. Developers are actively making and selling software to help consumers (of every tech skill level) grab and keep their music.

    “Stream ripping is nothing new and there are a number of cheap and free software tools available online to enable this activity,” says Mark Mulligan of Music Industry Blog. “It has been a risk of streaming services for years. The reality is that stream ripping will happen, but I do not consider it to be a major risk.” He says that while many services are user-friendly, all metadata is stripped from the files, so the process itself can be time consuming.

    “That is not to say this isn’t a problem for Spotify, it is,” he says. “But it is much less of a problem than issues such as hitting profitability, creating long-term financial viability, [and] competing with other streaming services.”

    Music industry analyst Kevin Erickson also says that while Spotify has legally covered its bases with its terms of service, stream ripping can still hurt it. “If SpotifyRip becomes popular, then the press will not be favorable. Spotify claims to have stopped piracy (or reduced it) in some markets, so that claim will go out the window if SpotifyRip makes inroads.”

    While it’s seemingly not a major issue, it could continue to give streaming services an uphill battle with record labels. Google Music has had trouble getting all four major companies on board with its application, and Spotify’s launch was delayed because of contract negotiations. Back in 2007, the RIAA said stream ripping wasn’t a threat to the industry, but that it hoped technology to prevent it would be adopted to circumvent the issue altogether. Of course music consumption has undergone vast changes since 2007, and it’s looking like the powers that be didn’t follow the RIAA’s hopes about avoiding stream ripping entirely were in vain.

    There seem to be endless hurdles on the road to an artist-profitable, consumer-centric music market. Stream ripping has been happening for years without much concern, or mainstream users being aware of it, but the increasing popularity of the subscription platform could seriously change that. If stream ripping were to become a more popular activity, new services could have trouble getting off the ground.

    Spotify could ultimately serve as a cautionary tale for this: “[It] could begin to receive pressure from the labels to close the tech gap in the platform to counteract the SpotifyRip technology,” Erickson notes. If it becomes a big enough problem, labels will start to turn toward services that have prevented or are taking steps to prevent stream ripping. 

    It also means that consumers have a loophole at their fingers. Authorities have known about stream ripping but either thought that technology would eventually disable it or that the music model wouldn’t lend itself to it. But the opposite has happened, and that means that yet again there’s a small window for music lovers who want some ownership over their digital content. 

    This article was originally posted on Digital Trends

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    14 comments

    • John Smith  •  Los Angeles, California  •  4 mths ago
      If it plays online, it can be copied for free. If it plays on the radio, it can be copied for free.

      If you don't want something to be copied for free, then don't let it out for the public to play!

      Those are your choices!

      People were recording from the radio long before CD's ever came out! This piracy didn't just start yesterday.
    • john  •  4 mths ago
      If it online people will take it for free somehow. Its all 1's and 0's
    • Moon  •  4 mths ago
      If the industry is really concerned then here are two suggestions. No more streaming, only radio air play as it was done since the 1920's, and the only format for pruchase is audio disc. Secondly and perhaps most importantly, the industry needs to find real talent. Not just the American Idol cookie cutter model.
      • K 4 mths ago
        That doesn't work either. No one really likes to rip songs from the radio; the quality is pretty low. But you *cannot* prevent someone from ripping songs from a CD and converting them into mp3's.
    • whatisreal  •  4 mths ago
      I used to copy all my vinyl records onto tape, to preserve them, and to be able to play them in the car. I think the music industry is making too big a deal out of all of this. I can't afford to leave a new CD in the car to get warped by the elements. And I have bought a lot more music since I was able to hear different kinds from a more diversified 'audience'. the truth is I have spent more money on Music since Napster first started than in all previous years (which is over 40 years). Yes I have a few songs that I downloaded from Napster years ago, but I don't listen to them, and the files will tell you the last time it was accessed, keep this up and I just listen to what I have legally, and never buy another album again. You are only damaging yourselves. If I don't listen to it, I don't know if I like, and won't spend the money on it. the same holds true for books, I thought it was a great idea to buy digital books, but now, I can't loan it to a friend. Who do you think is going to suffer the consequences ??? not me, what I have is legal, but if I don't share it with my friends, the recording artist or the book writer might never become as popular as they did back in the days when we did share stuff !
    • K  •  4 mths ago
      Here we are again. Back to the service model of commerce.
    • John  •  4 mths ago
      Actually, we prefer the term Bucaneer-American.
      (Note to RIAA, I am not in Stone Mountain. Like a lot of other things on Yahoo, the location data is what we call suspect.)
    • praxis  •  4 mths ago
      "Ever since Napster first appeared on the scene, consumers have been finding ways to get their music for free, at the detriment of recording labels and artists."
      Who writes this garbage???
      People have been bootlegging music, since long before the internet. "Tape to tape" if you borrowed it from your friend or checked it out from the library. Or dubbed straight from the radio when you heard your favorite song starting. Plug your LP into your tape player & hit record - good to go.
      PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BOOTLEGGING MUSIC SINCE RECORDING DEVICES WERE INVENTED!!! NOT since the internet was invented. The music industry is just upset, because they thought that the computer age would allow them to clamp down on it. And now they are realizing that it is harder than they thought.
      • Dvoraak 4 mths ago
        Really? You're gonna compare bootlegging vinyl and tapes to someone logging in and torrenting 1000 songs with a few key clicks?
      • Zyghart 4 mths ago
        Fundamentally they are the same thing, bootlegging or piracy. Quantity has nothing to do with it, and if you knew the right people you could buy mixtapes or vinyl copies in a similar amount. There is MORE music now, meaning more 'piracy'. How long 'til pirates are called terrorists?
    • M  •  Brush Prairie, Washington  •  4 mths ago
      "Stream Ripping" sounds like a new mining technique.
    • Grim Reaper  •  4 mths ago
      People got tired of lining the pockets of millionaire musicians. They are not willing to pay hundreds of dollars per ticket to see them perform. Sales of music and video on physical media are almost a thing of the past. Is it right? No. But you can't argue with billions of people who think it is.
      • g 4 mths ago
        You don't know how things work, every rich world famous rock star w multiple platinum selling albums that I know, which is quite a lot, are broke or in debt, due to the terms of there contract. As Tom Petty wrote about the industry "You [the rock star] get to be famous, I [label/producers] get to be rich."
      • K 4 mths ago
        No G, *you* don't know how things work. There are no shortage of musicians who embrace their own music sales without the labels, don't even appear to be particularly famous, but are making a killing by selling customers their merchandise in a fashion they are willing to pay for. The old model is flawed in the modern age.
    • Shadow  •  Hood River, Oregon  •  4 mths ago
      correction.... its now 27 million... again, WOW!
    • Shadow  •  Hood River, Oregon  •  4 mths ago
      Sport stars, musicians, politicians, ceos... all making way to much money. Seriously Yahoo.... you are actually dangling a 21 million dollar carrot to land your next CEO? Wow! I personally would run that company better than any of you and I would ask for a $100k a year. Time to think about your bloated salaries before you become China owned.
    • FAH KING GOOD TIME  •  San Diego, California  •  4 mths ago
      make your money playin live concerts / the good bands put on a great show and sell out every event. the bad ones better find a day job.
    • Shadow  •  Hood River, Oregon  •  4 mths ago
      I quit buying metallica as soon as Lars opened his mouth.... I quit buying political garbage as soon as GWB opened his mouth. I am going to quit using Yahoo as soon as they pay some #$%$ 21 million to just sell them off to China.
    • Uncle Sam Gone Bad  •  4 mths ago
      I could care less --- the only music I listen to is on Wax Cylinders.
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