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    Country or folk? The Civil Wars blur Grammy lines

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Even Grammy voters don't know what to do with The Civil Wars.

    The duo has been nominated for best folk album and best country duo/group performance, two categories that bear little resemblance to each other. Fellow nominees run the spectrum from Kenny Chesney to Eddie Vedder to Gillian Welch and Fleet Foxes.

    And John Paul White and Joy Williams love it.

    "We kind of had a little bit of a grin between the two of us and our team as well about that, too," Williams said. "I think it's fun the fact that we can't be pigeon-holed into one or the other. That's just fine with us."

    "We're going for best dance recording next year. We're going to do a dubstep record," White joked.

    The truth of the matter, though, is they don't have time to record an album right now.

    The Civil Wars were one of music's underground success stories of 2011. The pair of hard-working, long-toiling solo artists joined together as a songwriting partnership and found the next step in their performance careers. Championed by Taylor Swift, Adele and dozens of other artists, it's been a nonstop acceleration as they continue to sell copies of their 2011 debut album "Barton Hollow," tour the United States and Europe, and collaborate with artists they never would have expected.

    They recently debuted "Safe & Sound," their "Hunger Games" soundtrack song with Taylor Swift, live at Ryman Auditorium with a surprise visit from the pop star. And they unveiled the new documentary soundtrack for "Finding North" which they co-wrote with T Bone Burnett at Sundance. They'll leave for their first European tour about two weeks after the Feb. 12 Grammy ceremony in Los Angeles.

    They hope to spend time there with fellow nominee Swift, who has become a close friend. Swift knew each as a solo artist, and was instrumental in drawing attention to them at a pivotal point in the duo's career.

    "I love The Civil Wars because they're such a perfect example of two people who seem to be absolutely meant to make music together," Swift said in an email. "Seeing JP and Joy come up with harmonies in the studio together is like watching a pair of twins communicating in their own way, finishing each other's sentences and thoughts."

    That incredible chemistry has led to new heights each week, it seems. They hope to achieve the same kind of audience reaction in Europe. In less than a year, their audience has grown from a hundred or so a show to thousands who soak in their dramatic harmonies and simple instrumentation in rapt silence.

    "I'd be lying if we said we had our brains wrapped completely around it," White said. "We've kind of had blinders on all the last year and just focused on what's going on that day. And each night we look up to a bigger crowd in a bigger city, a bigger piece of transportation, our crew gets bigger and it's like, 'How did this happen?'"

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    Online:

    http://www.thecivilwars.com

    http://www.grammy.com

     

    27 comments

    • Cynic  •  3 mths ago
      I'm a senior citizen,and *I've been listening to Country music al of my life.I no longer listen to Country music ,because what passes for Country music today,isn't Country . I would much rather listen to Classic country.bluegrass,folk,traditional,anything but modern country.
    • Are-Key  •  3 mths ago
      Wearing a hat and singing with an accent does not make you a country singer. You either are or aren't country no matter where your from. Most of these new singers are not country.
    • Mike  •  Stephens City, Virginia  •  3 mths ago
      The Civil Wars are very good if people actually listen to their songs and don't just criticize the name of their group. They do not do the meaningless music that characterizes "country music" today which is nothing but the same sounding pop music with cowboy hats on. Comparing the music from the category that has Steve Earle, Eddie Vedder, Gillian Welch and Fleet Foxes to the one that has Kenny Chesney nomintated in is nothing but silly.
    • Clive Sandringham  •  Portland, Maine  •  3 mths ago
      Country Music = no drums or electric instruments!
    • Will  •  3 mths ago
      As a person that made a living in the Country music business for over 30 years, I think I have the background to comment on this. Most of what's going on today has nothing to do with love for a particular music form, it's about money. The objective of most (not all, mind you) of the artists out there in Country music is to reach that ultimate "crossover" status, make as much money as you can before your popularity wanes, then get out. Case in point: Garth Brooks. The man has a degree in marketing, and he marketed Garth Brooks. He took a lot of his cues for stage theatrics from rockers and went for spectacle over content. The man is a Kiss fan, for pete's sake! Country music used to be a close-knit group of artists who supported each other and tried to carry on a particular form of music. Of course, any musical form is influenced by other styles (just look at what Bob Wills did by combining Country and Swing), but there needs to be a reference point that ties it to its roots.

      I got out of the business when the whole "boot-kicker" thing was in full swing. All I saw was that disco was back wearing a hat and boots. We were nothing but a human jukebox expected to play whatever was the current dance tune. "Just shut up and play the beat--we don't care what the lyrics say". Well, I think there is more to a good song than "I get off work, jump in my pickup, go to the honky-tonk and chase women". That's part of Country music, but not the whole picture. I find myself these days listening to a lot of "Alternative Country" or "Americana" singer/songwriters these days. I guess you might call a lot of them "folk singers", but to me they sound a lot like what Country music used to be.
      • G 3 mths ago
        Well said. I stopped listening to it circa 1995
      • cachesoul 3 mths ago
        Im with ya, the best country music out there isnt played on the pop country stations. long live Scotter Jennings who actually brings a new idea... and long live David Allen Coe just for being cool.
      • David M 3 mths ago
        Very well put. As someone who was raised on country, I find very little resemblance in what I grew up listening to and the stuff that gets played on country stations today. They all seem very "cookie-cutter", with all the guys being pretty boys in cowboy hats and all the women being Britney Spears with a twang. There's just very little below the surface.
    • Frank  •  Sacramento, California  •  3 mths ago
      I'm just glad they don't call it country western any more. So called Western music had its orgin in Guitar music first introduced to the Americas by the Spaniards of Europe and advanced by Native Americans in Mexico and the Southwest. What we know as Country today began with immigrants from Scotland, Wales and Ireland who brought the violin and mandolin to the rural areas of the south and Appalachia. Probably the most famous European proponent of modern Western music was Marty Robbins who incorporated and displayed the Mexica roots of true Western music. Whew!!! I'm tired of educating you for now.
    • WB  •  3 mths ago
      George Strait and Alan Jackson got it right when they performed their hit song a few years ago. there has been an awful murder, someone killed Country Music, the sad part is, it is the idiots in Nashville, only looking for their next dollar. the love of Country Music does not exist there today
      • Amir 3 mths ago
        i miss the judds
    • andersen  •  3 mths ago
      95% of todays country singers dont have a clue what country is.A bunch of rockers that couldnt make it in rock so they throw a cowboy hat on and think they are country.
      • A LAD INSANE 3 mths ago
        I agree with your comment but let me add that most of these "rockers" you refer to can't even rock OR play country.
        I do like the Civil Wars though.
        Their song Barton Hollow is really good.
        In my opinion these two have far more talent than Taylor Swift and it shows in their music.
      • Dana 3 mths ago
        American Idol rejects and washed-up rockers have ruined country music.
      • Richard 3 mths ago
        The problem is that Nashville always wanted country music to be mainstream pop. Well, they added drums and amplifiers and changed the music enough that it has become pop, but for some reason still call it country.
    • WB  •  3 mths ago
      i've been listening to COUNTRY music all my life and i do not know who any of the people in this story are. they are DEFINITELY not country music singers, they may be an entertainer in some genre, but it is NOT country music.
      • Lizzy 3 mths ago
        I think that's a compliment.
      • Maria 3 mths ago
        Now, Lizzy.........WB's just explaining WB's thoughts on the subject. I listened to a couple of this group's songs and must agree that they're not country.....and that seems to be the point of the article. I don't care for their particular style, but then that's just me.
      • Richard 3 mths ago
        WB - Neither is the music being played on the "Hot New Country" stations.
    • R.C.  •  3 mths ago
      "Poison & Wine" by The Civil Wars continues to be one of the saddest and most poignant songs I've ever heard.
      • Richard 3 mths ago
        I haven't heard any of their music. But if the song is sadder than Red Sovine's music, then I will definately give it a listen.
      • Richard 3 mths ago
        just realized i spelled "definitely" wrong. Oh well.

        "Poison & Wine" certainly isn't a tear jerker in the way Red's music was, but I am enjoying their music.
    • royhobbs  •  3 mths ago
      Why do we have to make these stupid distinctions between genres of music? As everyone from Duke Ellington to Reba McEntire has noted, there are only two kinds of music: good and bad. In the glory days of the 60's, you could turn on the radio and you might hear a Simon & Garfunkel song, followed by Johnny Cash, the Beatles, Jefferson Airplane, Louis Armstrong, Judy Collins, etc. Nobody worried about whether a song fit into a particular genre. You either liked it or you didn't.
    • Cameron  •  Houston, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      Every one needs to stop hating on them because of their freaking name. 1) the name is clever as hell and 2) they are amazing. Saw them about 3 weeks ago, and the concert #$%$ near changed my life. It's magical. These two people were meant to make music together. I love Hank Williams, Merle Haggard, George Jones, etc. So, don't go and say I don't know country music. They don't fall into the category, and it's absolutely wonderful. At least it's not POP like what "country" is now.
    • ZT23  •  Tucson, Arizona  •  3 mths ago
      I love all the people whining about country not being the same as it was 50, 40, 30, 20 years ago. Heaven forbid a genre change. What, because rock is exactly the same as it was 40 years ago? Is ANY genre the same as it was decades ago? No, but you don't see fans of those genres complaining. So called country music fans can be some of the biggest effing babies in the world. Get over it. The Civil Wars are GOOD music, regardless of genre. Many modern 'country' artists make good music too, regardless of whether they're crossover or folk or Americana leaning. Shut up and enjoy the music or go play your vinyl records people. Sheesh.
    • NA  •  3 mths ago
      Play free bird!
    • Bob  •  Trenton, New Jersey  •  3 mths ago
      don't mess with them. really what is taylor swift a pop diva not country at all
    • *CowgirlTuff*  •  Charles Town, West Virginia  •  3 mths ago
      I absolutely loved The Civil Wars since the first time I heard them, their music is so unique and refreshing. I wish them all the best and I would love to see them become very successful.
    • Mary  •  3 mths ago
      Why would a country group call itself "The Civil Wars"?
      That's like a band from Ireland calling itself "The Potato Famine".
    • somebody  •  3 mths ago
      they couldnt find a better name than the Civil Wars? Really? What are their hits songs...In the Land of Cotton? If the South Won We'd A Had It Made? How about Lincoln Gonna Take My Slaves Away?
    • tim  •  3 mths ago
      its like the difference between dung and crap
    • one hundred conspirators  •  3 mths ago
      first they took the 'western' out of 'country and western'....and now they're taking the 'o' out of 'country'...
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