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    Court: 'don't ask, don't tell' will stay in place

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — The military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy is back in place for the time being, with one major caveat: the government is not allowed to investigate, penalize or discharge anyone who is openly gay.

    A San Francisco federal appeals court ordered the military to temporarily continue the controversial policy in an order late Friday, the court's response to a request from the Obama administration.

    The order is the latest twist in the legal limbo gay service members have found themselves in as the policy is fought in the courts simultaneous to its slow dismantling by the federal government, which expects to do away with it by later this year.

    In its three-page ruling, the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals said the ruling was based on new information provided by the federal government, including a declaration from Major General Steven A. Hummer, who is leading the effort to repeal the policy.

    "In order to provide this court with an opportunity to consider fully the issues presented in the light of these previously undisclosed facts," the court wrote, that it would uphold an earlier order to keep the policy in place.

    The court of appeals had halted "don't ask, don't tell" July 6 but the Department of Justice filed an emergency motion Thursday saying ending the policy now would pre-empt the orderly process for rolling it back, per a law signed by President Barack Obama in December.

    The ruling was supported by Servicemembers United, an organization of gay and lesbian troops and veterans, but the group's executive director Alexander Nicholson voiced frustration over the slow process of dismantling "don't ask, don't tell."

    "The situation with finally ending this outdated and discriminatory federal policy has become absolutely ridiculous," said Nicholson. "It is simply not right to put the men and women of our armed forces through this circus any longer."

    The Department of Justice said in a statement that it asked the court to reconsider its order "to avoid short-circuiting the repeal process established by Congress during the final stages of the implementation of the repeal."

    It said senior military leaders are expected to make their decision on certifying repeal within the next few weeks. In the meantime, the Justice Department said "it remains the policy of the Department of Defense not to ask service members or applicants about their sexual orientation, to treat all members with dignity and respect, and to ensure maintenance of good order and discipline."

    The Justice Department noted that the Defense Department has discharged only one service member since Congress voted to repeal the policy, and that was done at the request of the service member.

    Last year's ruling by the appeals court stemmed from a lawsuit filed by the Log Cabin Republicans against the Department of Justice.

    The gay rights group persuaded U.S. District Court Judge Virginia Phillips to impose a worldwide injunction halting the ban last October, but the appeals court granted the government a stay, saying it wanted to give the military time to implement such a historical change.

    The Log Cabin Republicans asked the court Friday to deny the motion, saying "an on-again, off-again status of the District Court's injunction benefits no one and plays havoc with the constitutional rights of American service members."

    The plaintiff said while only one service member has been discharged since the congressional vote, three others have been approved for discharge by the secretary of the Air Force but the processing of those actions have been "stopped in their tracks" by the court's order. Granting the stay the government wants would allow it to act on those discharges and also allow it to put recent applicants from gay enlistees in limbo, the group said.

    Justice Department attorneys said in their motion Thursday the grounds for keeping the stay in place are even stronger today than they were when this court initially entered the stay, and that disrupting the process set out by Congress would impose "significant immediate harms on the government."

    The chiefs of the military services submitted their recommendations on the repeal to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta last week. As soon as the Pentagon certifies that repealing the ban will have no effect on military readiness, the military has 60 days to implement the repeal, which could happen by September.

    Lt. Col. Paul Hackett, a lawyer in the Marine Corps Reserve, said military officials are ready for the change and there is no need for a delay.

    "We're already taking steps to implement it," he said. "Politicians do what politicians do for whatever their political need is. It's an election year, so somebody is obviously taken that into consideration. I suspect that's what driving this."

    Friday's order lays out a schedule for anticipated objections and motions from both sides: the Log Cabin Republicans have until 5 p.m. Thursday to file opposition to today's motion, and the federal government has until 5 p.m. the next day to file a reply supporting it.

    The court also asks the federal government to explain by close of business Monday why the information on implementation of the Repeal Act wasn't provided sooner.

    On Saturday, a contingent of active-duty troops and veterans are expected to march in San Diego's gay pride parade.

    Former Navy operations specialist Sean Sala is organizing what is believed to be the first military contingent of troops and veterans to lead a gay pride parade.

    Sala said the parade group wear T-shirts showing their branch of service. They will walk with two horses — one draped in an American flag and the other with the rainbow-colored Pride flag — to honor service members and those who have died for equality.

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    Associated Press writers Pete Yost in Washington and Julie Watson in San Diego contributed to this report.

     

    2,234 comments

    • SK  •  7 mths ago
      This again?
    • texaskbar  •  7 mths ago
      If they have the guts to join , fight , die , do their part like the rest of us have and do . Let them serve just like the rest of us have . When someone is shooting at you , sex is the last thing on your mind . We don't have to sleep in the same bed with them or date them . If they ask just say no and leave sex to choice of pardner of choice .
    • ramons  •  7 mths ago
      The people here who argue against homosexuals in the military miss the point: they are ALREADY in the military serving in the armed forces and dying as second-class citizens. The military needs them with two major wars, hundreds of bases around the world, and major manpower shortage problems. Unless you believe a group of citizens should do the same amount of work but be treated as lesser than everyone else, there is no defending the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy. Period.
    • Mi  •  7 mths ago
      Personally, I do not care who serves in our military, it is a hard and sometimes thankless job; with months on end of continous deployments-why does anyone care what our soldiers do in their bedrooms, I do not see anyone policing the sexual acts of anyone else.
    • James  •  7 mths ago
      why are all of these cases tried in SF? talk about playing with loaded dice...
    • The Jester  •  7 mths ago
      This is why you NEVER give up political ground to the left through negotiation. They never give anything in return and will eventually have everything their way. Back when DADT was being debated during the Clinton administration, those against it rightly pointed out that DADT was just one step and that the left would eventually seek full acceptance of openly homosexual service members. The left doesn't toss the frog into boiling water. They turn the heat up a little at a time. Looks like those that opposed DADT back in the 90's, by claiming that it would have a snowball effect and eventually lead to the openly homosexual serving, were right all along.
    • john  •  7 mths ago
      obama and rupaul are going to join the military,,thats why
    • The Jester  •  7 mths ago
      Every lesbian that I've known has a serious issue with men in general. They ONLY associate with other women. Their entire group of close friends are women. Also, most of them have had a poor experience with men in their developmental years, either through sexual abuse or physical abuse, that has turned them completely off or distrustful towards males. Many also came from homes where their father was not a positive role model or was absent all together. Therefore, I think their homosexuality has much to do with these horribly negative experiences they encountered while growing up. As far as male homosexuality, I don't know any that I'm aware of and therefore have no opinion but I wouldn't be surprised if many were brought up without a positive, masculine male role model in their lives.
    • Liberal  •  7 mths ago
      don't change this policy, maybe in another 20 years but right now is not the time!
    • Max Reiner  •  7 mths ago
      No fairies in the military, puh-lEEz!
    • Bre S  •  7 mths ago
      Why are we worrying about this? As soon as Obama gets elected he's going to end DADT and allow Gays and Lesbians the right to serve openly in the military. In addition he's going to get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan. And we can be assured that when he's elected he won't start any pointless wars in oil rich nations.
    • Ginger  •  7 mths ago
      They need for Chris Rock to make a video of, "How To Shut Up And Not Get Your Ax Kicked By The Guys In Yo Baracks."
    • Christ is Lord and Savior  •  5 mths ago
      All Sinners should be welcome in Church, but they should go there to get victory over their Sin, not to try and make the Church accept their Sin. All sexual Sin has been addressed and dealt with by Christ’s sacrifice, the Sins of homosexuality, pedophilia, adultery, incest, rape have all been dealt with at the cross of Christ, but we have to want to have victory over our sins---not have others accept it. All sinners should be welcomed in church, but on the condition that they are going to be told that Christ died on the cross to give us freedom from Sin----Not freedom to sin.
      Romans 6: 1-5 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
      Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
      Romans 1:27-29 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers
      Romans 1:25-26 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
      1 Corinthians 6:9Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men
      The gay agenda is not equivalent to the civil rights movement. I am Hispanic and gay lifestyle choices have nothing to do with the color of one's skin. If that is the case, then pedophiles, polygamist, rapist and adulterers can make the same case—they deserve special rights because of their sexual orientation. All of these sexual choices are sin---end of story.
    • J  •  5 mths ago
      Homosexuals in the military? Wrong answer. So is there going to be a separate barracks for gays? How is this going to work? Should gays be taking shower with straight people? Doesn't seem right.
    • Doodie  •  7 mths ago
      the reason gays accuse others of being in the closet is because it's the only thing they can come up with that makes the feel better about their mental disorder......
    • Ryzul  •  7 mths ago
      The bible says Adam and Eve - Not Adam and Steve.
    • looklogan  •  7 mths ago
      Why do gays have to let everyone know their gay? BIG FRIGGEN DEAL!!
    • Kevin  •  7 mths ago
      I agree... when they get up in the morning they are still queer
    • Cilas  •  7 mths ago
      Reading these comments, its easy to see why our Government makes so many dumb and
      inance rules, laws, etc.
    • dan  •  7 mths ago
      Let me tell you what happens between two consenting adults. I had to close a motel room down to replace the beds and carpeting because we could not get rid of the smell of their great time, try to get the law to help you with that.
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