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    Court: Judges cannot get involved in church dispute

    WASHINGTON (AP) — In a groundbreaking case, the Supreme Court on Wednesday held for the first time that religious employees of a church cannot sue for employment discrimination.

    But the court's unanimous decision in a case from Michigan did not specify the distinction between a secular employee, who can take advantage of the government's protection from discrimination and retaliation, and a religious employee, who can't.

    It was, nevertheless, the first time the high court has acknowledged the existence of a "ministerial exception" to anti-discrimination laws — a doctrine developed in lower court rulings. This doctrine says the First Amendment's guarantee of freedom of religion shields churches and their operations from the reach of such protective laws when the issue involves employees of these institutions.

    The case came before the court because the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission sued the Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church and School of Redford, Mich., on behalf of employee Cheryl Perich, over her firing, which happened after she complained of discrimination under the Americans with Disabilities Act.

    Writing the court's opinion, Chief Justice John Roberts said allowing anti-discrimination lawsuits against religious organizations could end up forcing churches to take religious leaders they no longer want.

    "Such action interferes with the internal governance of the church, depriving the church of control over the selection of those who will personify its beliefs," Roberts said. "By imposing an unwanted minister, the state infringes the Free Exercise Clause, which protects a religious group's right to shape its own faith and mission through its appointments."

    The court's decision will make it virtually impossible for ministers to take on their employers for being fired for complaining about issues like sexual harassment, said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United.

    "Clergy who are fired for reasons unrelated to matters of theology — no matter how capricious or venal those reasons may be — have just had the courthouse door slammed in their faces," Lynn said.

    But Douglass Laycock, who argued the case for Hosanna-Tabor, called it a "huge win for religious liberty."

    "The court has unanimously confirmed the right of churches to select their own ministers and religious leaders," he said.

    But since this was the first time the high court has ever considered the "ministerial exception," it would not set hard and fast rules on who can be considered a religious employee of a religious organization, Roberts said.

    "We are reluctant ... to adopt a rigid formula for deciding when an employee qualifies as a minister," he said. "It is enough for us to conclude, in this, our first case involving the ministerial exception, that the exception covers Perich, given all the circumstances of her employment."

    Perich was promoted from a temporary lay teacher to a "called" teacher in 2000 by a vote of the church's congregation and was hired as a commissioned minister. She taught secular classes as well as a religious class four days a week. She also occasionally led chapel service.

    She got sick in 2004 but tried to return to work from disability leave despite being diagnosed with narcolepsy. The school said she couldn't return because they had hired a substitute for that year. They fired her and removed her from the church ministry after she showed up at the school and threatened to sue to get her job back.

    Perich complained to the EEOC, which sued the church for violations of the disabilities act.

    A federal judge threw out the lawsuit on grounds that Perich fell under the ADA's ministerial exception, which keeps the government from interfering with church affairs. But the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals reinstated her lawsuit, saying Perich's "primary function was teaching secular subjects" so the ministerial exception didn't apply.

    The federal appeals court's reasoning was wrong, Roberts said. He said that Perich had been ordained as a minister and the lower court put too much weight on the fact that regular teachers also performed the same religious duties as she did.

    The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals also placed too much emphasis on the fact that Perich's religious duties only took up 45 minutes of her workday, while secular duties consumed the rest, Roberts said.

    "The issue before us ... is not one that can be resolved by a stopwatch," he said.

    The court's decision was a narrow one, with Roberts refusing to extend the ministerial exception to other types of lawsuits that religious employees might bring against their employers. "We express no view on whether the exception bars other types of suits, including actions by employees alleging breach of contract or tortious conduct by their religious employers," Roberts said.

    Justice Samuel Alito, who wrote a separate opinion, argued that the exception should be tailored for only an employee "who leads a religious organization, conducts worship services or important religious ceremonies or rituals or serves as a messenger or teacher of its faith."

    But "while a purely secular teacher would not qualify for the 'ministerial exception,' the constitutional protection of religious teachers is not somehow diminished when they take on secular functions in addition to their religious ones," Alito said.

     
    • smatry pants  •  4 mths ago
      Good grief Charlie Brown! If the Supreme Court can get a unanimous decision on a case like this and right now 5 were nominated by a Republican president vs. 4 by a Democrat president and all agree on this ruling then what is wrong with the Senate and Congress that cannot seem to agree on anything?????
      • Tom 4 mths ago
        Too may Reed and Pelosi type of democraps to deal with!
      • Goss 4 mths ago
        Liberals are haters????????????
      • jackie 4 mths ago
        Anti American republican cowards trying to destroy an economy to get a corporate payed stooge as president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • gordon t  •  4 mths ago
      9-0 decision - that's a rarity
      • FreeLance 4 mths ago
        There is hope. God is still in charge, be patient.
      • D 4 mths ago
        It's easy when it comes to the childish act which is RELIGION!!!
      • Caleb 4 mths ago
        It was a good call too... makes sense
    • CountryBoy  •  Houston, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      WOW....a unanimous decision.....how RARE.....
      • digging in the dirt 4 mths ago
        My first thought too...
      • Victor 4 mths ago
        Stops gays from suing churches for not marrying them.
      • JFerristx 4 mths ago
        No, Victor, it does not. I know that bigotry is usually associated with reading difficulties, but notice the ruling protects churches from being sued by their religious staff. The right of association generally protects groups from being forced to take members it does not want. NAACP can reject KKK from membership, Boy Scouts can refuse gay's. Sorry there were so many innuendos in that post, but obviously religious staff and members are probably beyond Victor's reading comprehension.
    • stuart  •  4 mths ago
      separation of church and state goes both ways folks.
      • R_M_X_01 4 mths ago
        The words separation of church and state are nowhere in the Consitution
      • T.W. 4 mths ago
        It also seems as if Stuart supports sexism in religion...just so he can write "separation of church and state works both ways"
      • Lance Boyle 4 mths ago
        Going both ways is against my religion.
    • Eric  •  Westerville, Ohio  •  4 mths ago
      For those of you making partisan 'observations', did you notice the word "unanimous" in the second paragraph? Given the stark differences among the justices, I tend to believe the constitution and legal precedent must be pretty clear to produce a unanimous decision.
      • Michael 4 mths ago
        Eric, the article also cited the fact that the Chief Justice was extremely clear that this case was decided on narrow grounds, ie, it was not a decision that the Justices expected to set a broad precedent, which I suspect is one reason it was unanimous.
        The lower courts are going to be cursing this decision for a long long time, because it will be in the lower courts that these ambiguities are settled.
      • John 4 mths ago
        It was an ADA case that had ZERO impact on the teaching and beliefs of the church that the ministerial exception was put in place to protect. SCOTUS can make mistakes, and they just committed one of the biggest boners in the history of the institution.
      • Maaack 4 mths ago
        If she was a minister, which everybody agrees she was, then she was fired as a minister and THAT is the congregation's decision.

        LOL at the notion that this was an ADA case.

        I fail to see how she was "discriminated" against when she was clearly NOT able to safely fulfill her other duties as a teacher.
    • Two-In-Dee  •  4 mths ago
      Am I the only one who is reading this article correctly?

      This ruling is strictly about employee discrimination for the clergy. It doesn't mean religious organizations can hire people and sexually harass them with no legal recourse. The ruling means a church may fire a person for any reason since they don't fall under the federal laws for employee discrimination. That means a church can fire an employee based on sexual orientation, health, race, color, religion, and so on. Churches still don't have the right to sexually harass their employees.
    • Caroline  •  4 mths ago
      If the people want the church to stay out of government, then the government should stay out of churches.
    • joey  •  Lafayette, Louisiana  •  4 mths ago
      if you want separation of Church and State, it works both ways!!
    • Pasta Mon  •  4 mths ago
      Why do some people ALWAYS try to make something into a liberal/conservative issue? Because their IQ is low? …… This is a constitutional issue, not a liberal or conservative one. Note the unanimous vote by the SC.
    • Kurt  •  4 mths ago
      If you get hired at a Church then expect to abide by their rules.
      I can see merit here.
    • JoeJoe  •  Huntsville, Alabama  •  4 mths ago
      Some of the comments really get me. You don't what the government involved with religion, but in this case, you think the court was wrong. The government has no business getting involved with our churches, in any way shape or fashion. The freedom of religion provides we be able to worship in our on manner. If a church fires an official for what ever the reason, that's the churches right. They should only employ like minded people.
    • Roman Moronie  •  4 mths ago
      "We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate.

      All are free to believe or not believe, all are free to practice a faith or not, and those who believe are free, and should be free, to to speak of and act on their belief.

      At the same time that our Constitution prohibits state establishment of religion, it protects the free exercise of all religions. And walking this fine line requires government to be strictly neutral."

      --Ronald Reagan
    • JonL  •  Montpelier, Vermont  •  4 mths ago
      some people on here have to realize that the SC is composed of more than just republicans and they voted unanimously
    • tirpider  •  4 mths ago
      Stands to reason.
      Keep your religion out of government, and keep your government out of religion.

      Fair and just.
      Deal with it.
    • hong k  •  Shenzhen, China  •  4 mths ago
      I dont care who runs the churches. But if they rape little boys they should be in jail.
    • Diablo Verde  •  4 mths ago
      Why would someone want to work for a religious entity that objects to their lifestyle ?
    • David Thompson  •  4 mths ago
      I think there is plenty wrong with organized religion in this country, but even I agree with this ruling. Besides, I always thought that the anti-discrimination laws only applied if it was not relevant to your job?
      Your not allowed to refuse to hire someone in a wheelchair simply because "I don't like cripples" but if the job cannot be done, 'with reasonable accomodation', then you are allowed to refuse to hire a parapalegic to be a firefighter. Similarly, if I was casting for a movie, I'm allowed to say "Chuck Norris, you can't have the role of Nelson Mandella, because you are a white guy." Or "Sorry Jackie Chan, we'd prefer a woman to play the role of Joan of Arc". If your hiring for a strip-club, you are ALLOWED to say "no fat chicks" because it is relevant to the job.
      I guess I didn't even realize that this hadn't been previously ruled, or that common sense wouldn't have put an end to this discussion years ago. If your church adamantly believes that homosexuality is an unforgiveable sin, then I don't think you should be forced to hire a gay clergyman. If your church does not accept women as equal, then I think you should be allowed to refuse to let women be priests.
      Do I agree with those sentiments myself? Absolutely not. But one of the important parts of separation of church and state is not having the government meddle in matters of faith. I don't want the church telling my government how to operate, but I also don't want the goverment telling my church who they have to ordain.
    • beans and cornbread  •  4 mths ago
      The entire state of Virginia as well as many others are "At will" states. they can fire without cause.. and they aren't a church. But I don't see anyone stomping their feet over that..
    • Kirara  •  Salt Lake City, Utah  •  4 mths ago
      If you read this carefully, all the SCOTUS stated was that ordained Ministers were exempt. That's it. What that really means is if a church has a Minister that is teaching something that is against their faith, they can get rid of him or her without fear of being sued. Unfortunately, the lower courts now have all the fun of figuring out who is a Minister and who is not.
    • sunny  •  Fort Collins, Colorado  •  4 mths ago
      Well done.
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