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    Crash raises doubts about China's fast rail plans

    BEIJING (AP) — Doubts about China's breakneck plans to expand high-speed rail across the country have been underscored by a bullet train wreck that killed at least 39 people.

    One train rammed into the back of another that had stalled after being hit by lightning Saturday in China's deadliest rail accident since 2008. Six carriages derailed and four fell about 65 to 100 feet (20 to 30 meters) from a viaduct. More than 190 people were injured.

    Railways Minister Sheng Guangzu has apologized to the victims of the crash and their families. The U.S. Embassy in Beijing said two U.S. citizens were among the dead. The Italian Foreign Ministry said a 22-year-old Italian woman was killed while another Italian was injured.

    The Railways Ministry and government officials haven't explained why the second train was apparently not warned there was a stalled train in its path.

    One expert said he thought human error may have been involved.

    "I think the problem may have come from the mistakes of dispatching management, instead of technological failure," said Qi Qixin, a professor at the Transportation Research Institute of Beijing University of Technology. "The system should have an ability to automatically issue a warning or even stop a train under such circumstances," he said.

    The accident is the latest blow to China's bullet train ambitions. Designed to show off the country's rising wealth and technological prowess, the high-speed rail project has national prestige on par with China's space program.

    Beijing plans to expand the high-speed rail network — already the world's biggest — to link far-flung regions and is also trying to sell its trains to Latin America and the Middle East. But critics say tickets are costly and the services do not really meet the needs of average travelers in many areas.

    Last month, China launched to great fanfare the Beijing to Shanghai high-speed line, whose trains can travel at a top speed of 186 miles (300 kilometers) per hour. The speed was cut from the originally planned 217 mph (350 kph) after questions were raised about safety.

    In less than four weeks of operation, power outages and other malfunctions have plagued the showcase 820-mile (1,318-kilometer) line. The Railways Ministry previously apologized for the problems and said that summer thunderstorms and winds were the cause in some cases.

    Official plans for China's bullet train network to expand to 8,000 miles (13,000 kilometers) of track this year and 10,000 miles (16,000 kilometers) by 2020.

    China's trains are based on Japanese, French and German technology, but the manufacturers are trying to sell to Latin America and the Middle East. That has prompted complaints that Beijing is violating the spirit of licenses with foreign providers by reselling technology that was meant to be used only in China.

    Saturday's accident involved the first-generation bullet trains, which were launched in 2007 and have a top speed of 155 miles (250 kilometers) per hour — slower than the new Beijing to Shanghai trains.

    The tragedy pummeled railway shares with China Railway Group sliding 7.7 percent. The high-speed rail woes added to negative sentiment from the U.S. debt deadlock, sending the Shanghai Composite Index down 3 percent to 2,688.75.

    State broadcaster CCTV reported that 39 people were killed and 192 injured, according to the Railways Ministry.

    The bullet train that lost power was traveling south from the Zhejiang provincial capital of Hangzhou and the crash happened in Wenzhou city.

    Three top officials at the Shanghai Railway Bureau have been sacked, and state-controlled media have raised questions, especially as rail travel moves hundreds of millions of people a year.

    In an editorial entitled 'Train crash lesson for railway progress,' the Global Times said the accident should be "a bloody lesson for the entire railway industry in China."

    The newspaper said the collision casts doubt on China's high-speed railway expansion plans because the country "lacks experience" as it seeks to join the top ranks of railway engineering.

    It said China's high-speed railway has become "the newest target of public criticism," adding the accident should lead to "safer, not slower, railway transportation."

    China's transportation authority ordered local departments at an emergency meeting Sunday to launch thorough safety overhauls to "resolutely curb" severe traffic accidents, the official Xinhua News Agency reported. The order follows a number of recent accidents, including a fire on a long-distance bus on Friday that killed 41 people.

    CCTV reported Monday that a 2-year-old girl pulled from one of the derailed carriages 21 hours after the crash had undergone a three-hour operation. It said she had suffered lung, kidney and leg injuries and is now in intensive care. Her parents died in the crash.

    An official at Saudi Railways Organization, the kingdom's train network operator, declined to comment on the Chinese crash or whether it might affect the company's decision to award a part of a lucrative high speed contract to a Chinese company.

    "I cannot talk about this," said Ali Saad al-Karni, vice president for technical affairs at the state-run company. He said only the company's president could discuss the matter, but he was on vacation and unreachable.

    Saudi Railways in 2009 awarded a consortium including China Railway Construction Corp. a $1.8 billion contract for work on a high-speed rail line linking the Muslim holy cities of Mecca and Medina. That deal covers civil engineering work along the planned route, including the construction of bridges and tunnels.

    Contracts covering the installation of track and the trains themselves haven't been awarded yet, though Chinese companies have been prequalified to bid for those deals too.

    ___

    AP Business Writer Adam Schreck contributed from Dubai.

     

    189 comments

    • Man  •  10 mths ago
      The reason China lags so far behind the West for so long mainly because of cultural backwardness. In things like business ethics, human right issues, intellectual property rights, etc. That's where they ought to concentrate their energy instead of building long bridges and fast trains to show off.
      • David 10 mths ago
        Agree with you Man, but I think they built those things to keep their double digit growth. Once they slow down, the society is going to falter.
      • A BC Canadian 10 mths ago
        smartest and most "right on" comment here. Totally agree. They don't need 10% growth to move on. They need more democracy; Amazed than one cannot buy the Economist at a news stand!. I wonder if it can be subscribed. Harsher penalties for IP rights violations. A constistent and non-bribe ridden legal system, Focus on soft skills education and more creativity. Tolearance and recognition of those people who think differently that those in power as long as their beliefs do not encourage hate or violence. Fair treatment for the poor.
    • Hov420th  •  10 mths ago
      They haven't been able to steal enough American and European technology to get it right yet, they need a little more time.
      • side 10 mths ago
        There is no tech on high speed train in USA.
    • Daphne Wu  •  10 mths ago
      I do not know how many people dead in this accident, eveyday, everyone talks about this thing in our daily life, sina weibo ,renren, and other media tools. Actually, we know less truth live in China, lots websites are blocked.
    • Hishika  •  10 mths ago
      China used to have brilliant minds, but after their communist switch and oppression it all went down hill from there. They can't think for themselves anymore. They just copy other things.
      As sad as it is you can't trust 'made in china' products. Sure they may be #2 in GDP but there's absolutely no quality to it.
      • Hu 10 mths ago
        you are absolutely right
    • King George  •  10 mths ago
      For all you who laugh at China. You guy should learn a little bit Chinese history. 50 years ago, China had barely any industry manufacture, 99% population were farmers, many of them were illiterate. It was just 30 years ago, when Mao died, China started to open to the world and to industralize in a mass scale. China somehow is still recovering herself from fundamental Comunist damage.
      So be nice and give China some time. Roman is not built in one day.
      • Nguyen H nhan 10 mths ago
        As long as communists are in power over there, how can china recover from fundamental Communist damages ?.......
      • Truth Hurts 10 mths ago
        Rome is built by 2 people, Romulus and Remus, China is built by billions
      • Bacon 10 mths ago
        "King George"...why dont you do us all a favor and go live there.
        China is our enemy...this country seems to have forgotten that.
    • Gunnar  •  10 mths ago
      To steeling other coutries technology and then claming it as its own seams to back fire, Japan, with their Bulet trains running for 50 years, and not a single person killed, that is a running safety.
      • side 10 mths ago
        101 Jps killed in train crash in 1997 and th railway was suspended for 55 days.
    • socal  •  10 mths ago
      The difference between China and Japan is a Chinese idea called "chabuduo". It literally means "about", and is used for "good enough". It is all pervasive in Chinese culture. The table you built has on leg short? "Chabuduo": it'll do. If there's a problem, just put a coaster under the short leg. Said I was coming at 7, and I show up at 8:30? "Chabuduo". Close enough. What are you complaining about? The trouble is, trains don't care about "chabuduo".
    • A Yahoo! User  •  10 mths ago
      The death toll is in excess of 100, but the Chinese government doesn't want you to know that. Just wait until one of the Chinese nuclear reactors fails due to shoddy materials and corruption.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  10 mths ago
      The difference between Obama's high-speed train and the Chinese train is that Obama's will never be built. Fortunately.
    • »ó·¡ °­  •  10 mths ago
      Were they going over 180mph during the crash? Sounds like they hit the panic button little too late and it crashed at slower speed.
    • Alison  •  10 mths ago
      The are historical reasons for China's social problems. The Culture Revolution in the 60s and 70s has been a disaster to China's culture and morality...Just imagine what North Korea is
      like now. ...You have to give some time to the country to recover after being though all of that.
    • MLH  •  10 mths ago
      I'm a technician and some of the companies I deal with get their motors from China. They used to get the motors from an American company that had one bad motor in a hundred. Now they have a thirty to forty percent failure rate. They consider this acceptable because of the cost of the motors. They can get three motors from China for the price of one motor made here. Lucky that those motors do not go into equipment that could produce serious issues with their failures.
    • Paulo  •  10 mths ago
      It wasn't mentioned here but if you look for videos of the wreckage you would see that they are already burying the train cars with bulldozers on site. I know train accidents are not at all rare but burying the wreckage a day after the accident is really suspicious. Especially when survivors such as the baby mentioned was found AFTER the bulldozing begun.
    • Daniel  •  10 mths ago
      All this talk about how the commies are ahead by leaps and bounds.....Get real. China is still a second-world country, where most of it's citizens live in abject poverty with no voice. You know, the same direction we're heading in now.....
    • Jack  •  10 mths ago
      communist chinese still run the place so failure with never stop for china until that changes. i rode 3,000 miles on japan's bullet train in total perfection. i'd NEVER step on a chinese fast train. in 47 years japan has ZERO deaths on their fast trains. japan subsidized the fast train (and still does) and it created the world's largest mega economic zone in the world. hire japanese to build our system and you'll get from downtown nyc to downtown d.c. in about 75 minutes...no airport shuttles or airplane stress needed. if you lived in pittsburgh or montreal you could catch the early train to nyc, have a business meeting, and be back for a late lunch with basically zero travel stress that flying has. japan's shinkansen is by far the greatest travel experience i've ever had and i got upgraded free to first class once to europe. we could easily do the same for bullet trains here to eliminate completely inefficient (and subsidized) short flights between mega cities but our culture is too fragmented now to ever accomplish such a thing.
    • ZAINICHIBEIJIN  •  10 mths ago
      The Japanese shinkansen did not derail even during the March 11th earthquakes.
      The Chinese don't seem to know exactly what they are doing creating faulty nation-wide systems. I will not be riding on any of their trains!
    • SIMON SAYS  •  10 mths ago
      So it's about as safe as their coal mines.
    • Nana Papa  •  10 mths ago
      Crushed train was buried at the scene and the service has been resumed today. Chinese government learned. I was not able to believe my own eyes to see the article today.

      It means that Chinese gevernment abandon to investigate the cause of accident and willing to recur. They learned NOTHING from this man-made desaster.
    • bigtisas  •  10 mths ago
      People who laugh at this accident are heartless. Shame on you.
    • Eefcici  •  10 mths ago
      Standard Operating Procedure from China.
      Market / Release a product before you have gotten the bugs out.
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