Dark Matter Gets Darker: New Measurements Confound Scientists

For roughly two centuries, Newton reigned supreme, and his theory of gravity was used to make many astounding predictions (such as the existence and location of Neptune). It also made false predictions (couldn't explain the precession of Mercury, so a nonexistent inner planet was posited--the Newtonian step analogous to the invention of "dark matter"). Eventually we realized that Newton's law of gravity was--gasp!--wrong. Now we have invented a whole unseen world to try to hold on to Einstein's theories. Perhaps it is time to admit that this is the wrong approach. Einstein, like Newton, was brilliant and gave us a closer approximation than Newton had given. But it is an approximation only. Science is supposed to accept the simplest explanation. Is dark matter really the simplest we can come up with? An entire unseen universe of matter is simpler than saying Einstein wasn't completely right?

Dark matter is the 21st century version of the aether theory. Eventually they'll whittle away at what dark matter does until there ceases to be any dark matter category, as everything will have been defined as something else.

these dwarf galaxies behave differently because there is no massive black hole at their center...just a guess...that's why they are dwarf galaxies...not enough gravity to pull in huge amounts of matter to create a full sized galaxy...anyone care to comment or enlighten me on an uneducated guess??

Brans–Dicke theory may come out the winner here. I like the fact it takes into account volume. And I would love to see a computer model based on a rapidly decreasing volume. I have seen a few parers out there. Not a lot. And several Physics forums that will not even consider Albert was wrong. But there are enough anomalies out there now to at least try to see if this alternative theory can explain them.

Calling it dark matter/energy is just a nice way of saying that we see the gravitational effects of a whole lot of something out there and we really have no idea what it is.

It's a technique scientists use to explain what they cannot yet explain. Kind of like the term "black box" used to describe phenomena where scientists see an input and an output but cannot come up with an explanation for what happens in between. They could have used the term "magic" and had the equivalent meaning but they didn't like the connotations of that term.

New Headline: Dark Matter leaves scientists in the dark.

What are the gravitational effects of virtual particles or quantum fluctuations. What effect does gravitation warping of space have on the production of virtual particles.

The stupid on Yahoo! It burns. Folks, this is very interesting stuff. We could be talking about an entirely new form of matter. And for those of you saying that the scientists are idiots, answer this:

A planet half the mass of Earth is halfway between Earth and the Sun in a circular orbit about the sun. What is its period of rotation about the Sun?

If you can't answer that, you are too stupid to speculate about dark matter.

"The model envisions dark matter made up of cold, slow-moving exotic particles that clump together because of gravity."

I don’t know why they have to believe it to be exotic particles. It makes more sense that dark matter is normal atoms like hydrogen and helium but in a much less dense version that is mostly invisible due to its density like looking through a glass. As it is attracted into the center of a galaxy it would become part of all the stars/black holes and nebula making it virtually non-existent in the center regions. Perhaps the mass of these a light atom does not agree with their model, dunno.

The jury is still out. Disregarding gravitational lensing for the moment, there may another reason stars in spiral galaxies mostly rotate around the galactic center at the same speed;
inertial distribution of rotational mass throughout the galaxy by gravity. Think spokes on a bicycle wheel. The same would apply to clusters. The same would not apply to globular clusters with little rotational coherence.

Another concern to consider:
There are some galaxies whose velocity profile indicates an absence of dark matter, such as NGC 3379. There is evidence that there are 10 to 100 times fewer small galaxies than permitted by what the dark matter theory of galaxy formation predicts. This is known as the dwarf galaxy problem.

Has anyone ever stopped to consider that maybe the reason we are unable to see this "dark matter" is that the only reason we can not see it is because it is in another dimension or some other form of matter that our senses are unable to detect. It has been shown that many things that have been written in science fiction turn out to be reality. Maybe the possibility that the "missing matter" in stead of "dark matter" is really there and has been all along.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, than in your wildest imagination, my dear Horacio."

Just as Newtonian mechanics and Relativity cannot accurately describe the very small in the quantum mechanical world, perhaps it is time to develop a different mathematical model for the very. Then maybe they can quit trying to force fit the math with conjured unseen items such as dark matter.

Perhaps our detection of the effects we attribute to dark matter & energy are actually measurements attributable to the existence of matter/energy in other dimensions.

How many of you have ever read the famous book "Flatland" written in 1884 by Edwin Abbott? It describes the difficulties which would be presented to beings living in two dimensions trying to detect three dimensional beings.

Perhaps dark matter/energy are the manifestations of higher dimensional realities? There are a lot of experiences written off to religious & mystical fervor that actually might be examples of people in altered states of consciousness that would allow them to detect higher dimensional realities. There are many examples of these types of experiences which are not readily written off as experiences of delusion. Perhaps we are detecting physical manifestations of what these mystics have experienced? It could explain a lot of what mystics throughout the ages have been referring to.

i used to think that Dark Matter is the politically correct name for Black Holes. Seems like im right all along.

If astronauts took a jar scooped up dark matter and returned it to earth would we see
substance in the jar?

Question now becomes...what normal matter lays at the centers of the two dwarf gallaxies? What structures does the matter occur in? How does this compare with those used to establish the standard model? The standard model gallaxies would establish and exhibit a "mean" measure of normal matter constituent materials given highly similar galaxy structural dynamics.
Here, what is significant is that in determining the standard only galaxies that possess and very
high correlation in structure can be used. Why? Because you want to eliminate Mass-structure
as being a variable in what may be affecting dark energy. Just by reading what is written in this
article it appears that dark energy is "density sensitive". That is dark energy is attracted to regions where matter is more greatly concentrated or to a region where regular matter has
achieved a specific density threshold.

Dark matter is the attempt by astrophysicists to explain extra-dimensional material that appears to affect gravity in this 3-dimensional universe. We know that there are dimensions that exist outside of the standard length, width and breadth that we measure this plane of existence. The real question is how does something that we can't see or measure directly interact with matter in this universe. Gravity is still the strange force that can't be explained by the GUT.

back to the "ether" theory?

dark matter is absence of matter, or emptiness. matter is moving to that emptiness, seemingly pulled to it, but rather likened to high pressure moving to low pressure.
hence the universe is accelerating to fill that emptiness. and i mean empty absolutely nothing in these voids. nothing not even light is in these voids like huge empty tendrils of nothing.......yd