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    Debt ceiling fix could mean problems for states

    HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — The cost of the compromise needed to raise the federal debt ceiling likely will inflict more fiscal pain on states still struggling to recover from the recession and the end of federal stimulus spending.

    President Barack Obama and Republicans sealed a deal Sunday to avoid the nation's first financial default and raise the debt limit while slashing more than $2 trillion from federal spending over a decade. Obama said that, if enacted, the agreement would mean "the lowest level of domestic spending since Dwight Eisenhower was president" more than half a century ago.

    While the details of the spending cuts to states remain unclear, lawmakers from both parties have discussed the need to cut or impose caps on so-called discretionary spending over the next decade.

    That could mean wide-ranging cuts in federal aid to states, affecting everything from the Head Start school readiness program, Meals on Wheels and worker training initiatives to funding for transit agencies and education grants that serve disabled children.

    There also was concern among governors, state lawmakers and state agency heads that Congress would make deep reductions or changes in federal aid for health services for the needy, most notably through Medicaid. That could shift more of the costs onto states that already are having trouble balancing their budgets.

    "We have the potential for disaster should there be a major realignment in federal funding that results in a cost shift to states," said Nevada state Sen. Sheila Leslie, a Democrat from Reno who recently discussed the issue with Obama administration officials in Washington. "In short, we are teetering on the edge right now, and a cost shift could send us over the cliff."

    States already have closed nearly $480 billion in budget gaps since the beginning of the recession, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

    In Connecticut, for example, officials have struggled to cover a $3.3 billion deficit, accounting for more than 16 percent of the state's main budget account.

    About 19 percent of the state's non-transportation revenue comes from the federal government.

    "The timing is lousy in every respect," said Benjamin Barnes, secretary of the Connecticut Office of Policy and Management. "It will certainly have a recessionary impact on the overall national economy, and that's the last thing we want right now."

    Among the programs that could be affected is a service that delivers meals to the home-bound elderly.

    Connecticut received about $4.5 million from the federal government for the program this year and $1.8 million from the state. Marie Allen, executive director of the Southwestern Connecticut Agency on Aging, said the program is a staple for many senior citizens on tight budgets. The federal aid ultimately saves taxpayers money because it helps keep people out of costly nursing homes, she said.

    "If we don't have the support for them in the community, people end up in nursing facilities because they don't have proper nutrition," Allen said. "These are the real reasons why we spend more money on skilled nursing care."

    State officials across the country were worried about the austerity steps demanded by fiscal conservatives in exchange for raising the nation's debt ceiling, said Brian Sigritz, director of state fiscal studies at the National Association of State Budget Officers. He said the association expects states to be affected by cuts, if not immediately, then in the next year or two.

    Obama, in his remarks on the debt deal Sunday night, said there will be no initial cuts to entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare. But he said both could be on the table along with changes in tax law as part of future cuts.

    House Speaker John Boehner, a Republican, telephoned Obama at mid-evening to say the agreement had been struck, officials said.

    No votes were expected in either house of Congress until Monday at the earliest, to give rank-and-file lawmakers time to review the package. But leaders in both major parties were already beginning the work of rounding up votes.

    Darrell Steinberg, president pro-tem of the California state Senate, said before the debt deal was announced Sunday night he was concerned about cuts to entitlement programs, especially if they reduce payments to the states for Medicaid, which provide health care for the poor and disabled. The state's version is known as Medi-Cal and covers 7.5 million people.

    Significant cuts could have forced California to look for ways to make up for the funding at a time when the state is slowly emerging from a recession that has left it with one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation. Lawmakers closed a $26.6 billion shortfall this year, partly with the help of rising tax revenue.

    "Certainly in California, we're on the verge of turning a corner," said Steinberg, a Democrat. "We want to go forward, not backwards."

    A concern in many states is a possible change in the federal-state formula known as FMAP, which is used to fund Medicaid programs. In Nevada, for example, the federal government pays 55 percent of the cost. Every 1 percent of cost that is shifted to the state equals roughly $15 million.

    "The change in FMAP is probably one of the more fearful ones that we could experience," said Mike Willden, director of the Nevada Department of Health and Human Services.

    Not all state officials were dismayed by the possibility of broad-based cuts in federal aid.

    Alaska Gov. Sean Parnell said he believed substantial funding cuts would have less of an impact on his state than allowing the federal government to stay on its course of mounting debt. He is among a small group of GOP governors who signed a pledge urging Congress to oppose increasing the debt limit unless certain conditions are met, including substantial spending cuts.

    "We need a serious directional change to recover, and merely raising the debt limit will lead only to disaster," he wrote in a recent email.

    The long-term effects of a compromise to raise the debt ceiling could come as a surprise to many state officials, said Rep. George Miller, of California.

    The top Democratic lawmaker on the House Education and Workforce Committee said he had received almost no input from state education departments and local school districts about the looming spending cuts. He said reductions contained in the debt ceiling legislation are "going to make life much more difficult for" for public schools.

    Robert Moran, who represents the American Association of State Colleges and Universities, said plans offered by the leaders of the House and Senate each kept a major aid program largely intact. Pell grants, which provide up to $5,550 to low-income students, would sustain cuts, but they would be relatively small, he said.

    "I think the higher-education community was probably pleasantly surprised about that," he said.

    But he said colleges still face a double-whammy — federal cuts coming on the heels of deep state cuts. In many university systems around the country, departments have lost funding and class offerings have been reduced.

    Barry Toiv, the vice president of public affairs for the Association of American Universities, said continuing to take money out of education would slowly and steadily degrade the quality of the nation's universities and affect America's ability to produce the next generation of leaders.

    "It's like termites in the wall, gradually eating away at the underpinnings of our innovation," he said. "If you do that over a long period of time, at some point you're no longer leading the world. And eventually, like with termites in the wall, you're not really going to have a house anymore."

    ___

    Ramde reported from Milwaukee. Associated Press writers Kevin Freking in Washington, D.C.; Sandra Chereb in Carson City, Nev.; Judy Lin in Sacramento, Calif.; and Becky Bohrer in Juneau, Alaska, contributed to this report.

    This story is the latest installment of a joint initiative by The Associated Press and Associated Press Managing Editors on the fiscal crisis facing U.S. states and cities, how state and local governments are dealing with severe budget cuts, and how American lives will change because of it. A broken budgets logo is available for download at apimages.

     

    1,386 comments

    • James F  •  9 mths ago
      I bet Congress dosn"t give up any of their Moneys.
      • Alan 9 mths ago
        I agree with your premise, but Congress doesn't have any of THEIR money. It's all ours. Always has been.
      • Majik 9 mths ago
        If Congress gave up any of their Monkeys what would they slap when they are supposed to be working for us Americans?
    • Grumpy  •  9 mths ago
      Why is there no discussion on suspending Foreign Military/Humanitarian Payments/Aid?
      We give China taxpayer money, yet they are a huge holder of American debt! Can you say "kickback"? How many billion go to Pakistan, Egypt. etc, etc, etc.
      Get our troops out of Japan, Germany, and the UK,, we've been there for over 70 years!
      • Robert 9 mths ago
        Social Security is holds more than twice what china holds - going to gas grandma, eh?
      • Ldyjaz 9 mths ago
        I'm all for reducing the amount of $$ spent on foreign aid, especially given the fact that we have a lot of people suffering here in the U.S.A. India and China have both come up since this damned NAFTA Agreement.
      • Ldyjaz 9 mths ago
        Cutting their salaries would be too much like right. Although I agtree with you 100%. Therein lies another form of corporate welfare!
    • Gary  •  9 mths ago
      I'm just curious. How much foreign aid did they cut? I would hate to think that food programs for our children and elderly have been cut just so some foreign gov't can get their 3 billion $$$.
      • Charlie 9 mths ago
        Just cut the military aid its enough and shut down the Korean and Japanese bases which have around 50,000 troops.
      • wake up people 1 9 mths ago
        we pay these countries tax dollars so our oil companies can get their oil and stick it to us again at the pump dont act like u dont know who is doing this
    • Leta  •  9 mths ago
      Instead of cutting Meals on Wheels, how about cutting all of the freebies for all illegal aliens in the USA and how about deporting the illegals back to their own countries? This would give the USA a ton of money. Meals on Wheels is needed desperately by the needy and this is a sad state of affairs when you hit on this first! I concur with Tina Wells 100%! And, hey Byrdman, Canada is probably a lot cooler right now than Texas!
      • L 9 mths ago
        i used to live in columbus ohio and they have the 2nd largest pop of samolians, they get free food card, free money, free insurance, free housing for 2 years and mind you they live in very nice apts. and don't pay taxes for 3 years. they hate americans so wtf are they even here, i can't stand them driving around in there brand new cars and suv's acting like they own the world!! DEPORT THEM AND SHUT THE GATES!!
      • Truthlover 9 mths ago
        You mean Samoans? Samoans are born with American citizenship. So, nope, not illegal.
      • Alan 9 mths ago
        As soon as the government decides to follow your original idea and hunt down every single illegal and deport them, the next thing you'll be whining about is the hundreds of billions of dollars they are spending to do it. It can't happen for free.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  9 mths ago
      99% of the #$%$ in the congress & senate could take no salary for a year and still be just fine cause they're all a bunch of rich pricks who don't care about anyone but themselvesthemthemthemslevesthemselves.
      • BRING THE JOBS BACK 9 mths ago
        AND THEIR LOBBYISTS.
      • tim 9 mths ago
        i say stop paying them, the lobbyists give them a lot more than thay get paid anyway
      • dwdc 9 mths ago
        Why would you stop the Job Creators ? That's Where the jobs are created !! Their Family and Friends Plan !!
    • Byrdman  •  9 mths ago
      hold on canada im coming eh!
    • Tina Wells  •  9 mths ago
      Instead of cutting programs that help poor and elderly people, why has no one considered cutting some of congress's salaries over the next couple of year? No one would suffer that much and everyone could still eat!
    • SkoolChik623  •  9 mths ago
      Cut all foreign aid, cut out any help to illegals. If you haven't worked and paid into our wonderful system, then you get no help. Go out and work, pay taxes, and leave your family in whatever country you came from.
      These politicians don't care about who voted them in. They are in there now, they get paid for not doing their job and they get a cushy pension and medical if they leave. Support the American people? HUHHHHH
    • stanley black  •  9 mths ago
      NO CUTS ON GIVING MONEY TO OTHER COUNTRIES, ?? $200 BILLION WASTED, 3 WARS WASTING $500 BILLION EVER YEAR.?
    • GD  •  9 mths ago
      Why don't these idiots ever think of cutting back on "FOREIGN AID" instead of hitting poor people at home. That is poor people who worked all their lives and earned the meager benefits they are entitled to.
    • Ben  •  9 mths ago
      cut every politicans salary and pension and save a crap load of money.. stop giving welfare to banks and other industry
    • namvet  •  9 mths ago
      How about ending foreign aid and using that money for aid to states - the United States?
    • kevin  •  9 mths ago
      Let's cut the salaries of everyone in congress and stop paying them outragous pensions and let them live on social security like the working people. Look at all the money that this would save!!!!!!
    • Chadine Taylor  •  9 mths ago
      In Accordance With Oregon State Law, The People of the State of Oregon demand an itemized tax bill from the U.S Federal Government!
    • Carlie  •  9 mths ago
      Our country needs to cut out the BILLIONS$$$ given to aid other countries that don't really care about our well being and pour that money into our economy for jobs and education. And how about all of the illegals sucking our economy dry while not putting anything into our system! Protect our borders and send the illegals back where they come from and make them enter legally before they destroy our great country like they have ruined theirs. Why do you think they want to come here, because their country has failed them and now they are out to take from us and give nothing in return like TAXES!
    • james  •  9 mths ago
      IF WE ARE IN SUCH FINANCIAL TROUBLE< WHY< WHY< WHY ARE WE STILL GIVING ALL THAT MONEY TO OTHER COUNTRIES> MAKES NO SENCE DOES IT
    • Pollyanna  •  9 mths ago
      We don't need to be in Germany & Iraq. If that's cutting military spending then I'm for it.
    • Knobby Elm  •  9 mths ago
      Couldn't they just bring the jobs back? Wouldn't that be a huge source of revenue and a huge boost to the economy? I just don't get it.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  9 mths ago
      Is this REALLY where we are at in America? Take money from retirees, veterans, children and the disabled so we can give it (subsidies) to companies making record profits! I don't believe any moral American REALLY wants to do this...so why are????
    • scott  •  9 mths ago
      medicade will be fine if you get all the illegals off it
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