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    If debt deal near, Obama would OK stopgap measure

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Running out of time, President Barack Obama softened his stand and signaled Wednesday he would back a short-term deal to prevent a disastrous financial default on Aug. 2, but only if a larger and still elusive deficit-cutting agreement was essentially in place. He called lawmakers to the White House in a scramble to find enough votes from both Republicans and his own party.

    Obama met with the Democratic leaders of the House and Senate, and then separately with House Speaker John Boehner and his deputy, Majority Leader Eric Cantor, in hopes of cobbling together a big compromise. All signs pointed to a legislative fight that would play out to the end.

    The president, pushing for a deal that would cut the nation's budget deficit across the next decade and extend the government's tapped-out borrowing power through the approaching election year, had threatened to veto any stopgap expansion of the nation's debt limit. He even challenged Cantor, R-Va., not to call his bluff about it in one confrontational moment last week.

    Obama's now-calibrated position, offered by spokesman Jay Carney, reflected the reality: leaders are nearly out of time to head off unprecedented trouble. Carney said if a divided Congress and the White House can agree on a significant deal, Obama would accept a "very short-term extension" of the debt limit to let bigger legislation work its way through Congress.

    Even a few days matters, given the stakes.

    The government will exhaust its ability to borrow money and pay its bills come Aug. 2, an outcome that could sink the country back into recession, halt Social Security checks, send interest rates higher and erode the creditworthiness of the richest nation on earth.

    The White House made clear Obama still opposes a short-term extension of the debt limit on the order of 30 days or more on the grounds that would just punt the problem. He reiterated that views in his meetings with lawmakers, a Democrat familiar with the talks said.

    An aide to Boehner, R-Ohio, said the Republican leaders and the president will continue to talk, but no meeting had been scheduled.

    Those familiar with the talks spoke on condition of anonymity to disclose details of the private discussions at the White House. All sides were keeping information tight as time slips by and negotiations grow sensitive.

    The latest talks centered on what it will take to muster enough votes from both parties to muscle legislation through the House and Senate and raise the national debt limit. Congressional leaders say they want to prevent default, but they are far from agreed on how.

    The divided-by-party nature of Obama's negotiations underscored his need to get a bottom line from Democrats in both chambers and the leaders of the Republican-run House.

    His challenge with fellow Democrats is to persuade them to accept changes to the popular entitlement programs of Medicare and Social Security. With Republicans, Obama is slamming into opposition from conservatives who refuse to consider tax increases. Obama wants a mixed approach of higher taxes on the wealthy and spending cuts that share the pain.

    "There is still time to do something significant," Carney said, urging compromise.

    Realistically, though, the deadline for agreement is this week, not next week, given the time needed to craft, debate, pass and work out possible differences in legislation.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said Tuesday that the head of the Congressional Budget Office has told him it could take the scorekeeping agency two weeks to come up with an official cost estimate for even a relatively modest package of spending cuts.

    Then there are the problems of moving the debt limit increase through the Senate, where the rules allow any single member to force delays.

    Parliamentary experts say that if the Senate takes up the debt limit measure this Saturday, it could take more than a week, until Monday, Aug. 1, to pass the measure through the Senate, give the House time to consider it and make changes and then gain Senate approval one more time.

    The Obama administration and Congress are also working on a backup plan to increase the debt limit if no big plan can be reached. It would allow Obama to raise the ceiling on his own unless overridden by Congress. Yet many House Republicans loathe that idea and have pledged to vote against it, raising doubts about how tenable even the fallback choice is.

    That plan is the result of work by Reid and the Republican leader of the Senate, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

    Obama is trying to seize on momentum from a proposal from a bipartisan "Gang of Six" senators that would cut the deficit by almost $4 trillion but lacks many specifics.

    Obama met for less than an hour with Reid; Dick Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate and a member of the Gang of Six; House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California and Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, the No. 2 Democrat in the House.

    A House Democratic aide familiar with the meeting said House Democrats stand with Obama on his push for a big bargain but without hurting seniors through cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

    Obama's meeting with Boehner and Cantor ran roughly 90 minutes.

    The plan by the Gang of Six is probably far too complicated and contentious to win passage before the Aug. 2 deadline. But the plan's authors hope it could serve as a template for a "grand bargain" later in the year that could erase perhaps $4 trillion from the deficit over the coming decade.

    Even among Democrats, Rep. Chris Van Hollen, senior Democrat on the House Budget Committee, said lawmakers had too few details about the Gang of Six plan.

    Pelosi, the top Democrat in the House, reacted positively Wednesday to the new plan, saying it "has some good principles in it."

    However, Republican Rep. Howard "Buck" McKeon of California, chairman of the Armed Services Committee, blasted the plan in a missive to his panel members, saying it would cut the Pentagon much too deeply and would unfairly curb military health and retirement benefits.

    The Gang of Six framework promises almost $4 trillion in deficit cuts, including an immediate 10-year, $500 billion down payment that would come as Congress sets caps on the agency budgets it passes each year.

    It also requires an additional $500 billion in cost curbs on federal health care programs, cuts to federal employee pensions, curbs in the growth of military health care and retirement costs and modest cuts to farm subsidies.

    ___

    Associated Press writers Andrew Taylor, David Espo, Erica Werner, Jim Kuhnhenn and Julie Pace contributed to this report.

     

    996 comments

    • RONYYY O.G.  •  10 mths ago
      QUOTE'' ABRAHAM LINCOLN SAID EVERY 20 YRS. U NEED TO HANG THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS AND START OVER, BACK THEN IF U TOOK MONEY OR LOBBY GIFTS IT WAS TREASON TO THE COUNTRY AND ITS PEOPLE , JUSTICE WILL COME SOON FOR BRIBE TAKERS
      • shadrac 10 mths ago
        I don't think we could build gallows large enough to hang all the treasoners, That would be like paying off the National Debt.....Impossible.....But we keep on trying....
      • Kevin P 10 mths ago
        If that was true we'd have no government because we'd have hanged all of the politicians decades ago Lincoln included. As beloved as he is now remember Lincoln was willing to let the South keep its slaves to keep the union together. Being corrupt and being a politician are synonomous there has to my knowledge never been a politician on either side who wasn't a crook.
      • Jeanvaljean 10 mths ago
        I have been waiting for this to happen since Reagan the thief,yeah he was the best president the Japanese ever had and a traitor to his country.
    • JR.  •  10 mths ago
      Dear Visa, I will not be able to pay my bill come Aug 2, please increase my spending limit so I can pay my other bills with your card. I intend on somehow making more money in the future but have not decided how. I have no intentions of decreasing my spending at this time and will look into that sometime after elections, err in the future. Perhaps you could just ask someone with more money to pay the bill for me?
      • mike 10 mths ago
        Don't forget, someone owes you money because you're in debt. It's always someone else's fault
      • good grief! 10 mths ago
        dont worry, maybe we can charge the bill to the 'top 1%' and they will pay for your irresponsible fiscal practices with that credit card! lol
      • Fugly Baby Bean 10 mths ago
        Clever post,simple,yet accurate......
    • M  •  10 mths ago
      So if Obama can't guarantee Social Security checks for the elderly, does that also mean Congressional, House, Senate and his paycheck will be put on hold as well?

      KMA! IDIOTS!!!
      • Jeffrey 10 mths ago
        Actually, yes.
      • L 10 mths ago
        DON'T BET ON IT THEY WILL SOMEHOW MANAGE TO GET THEIRS! THEY ALWAYS DO.
    • Jose Vargas  •  10 mths ago
      where's all the money and power we use to have
    • patri8  •  10 mths ago
      So, how much of the current debt would not exist if over the last 20, 30, or more years our so-called "representatives" had not been allowed to "attach" pork and pet spending programs to legislation designed for completely unrelated spending purposes? Make these people "representing" us take a hit for a change, instead of saying in so many words, "Let them eat cake!"
      • Corsair 10 mths ago
        Pork is a TINY part of spending, despite the 17 thumbs up you get from the ill-informed.
      • YahooGivesUpYourPrivacy 10 mths ago
        OK Corsair, if it is so tiny, then it should be easy to cut. Guess what, they won't.
      • R Harvey 10 mths ago
        A journey of 14 trillion steps begins with one, all dollars are equal. Start with an across the board 2% reduction in everyone's budget from what they spent in 2009.
    • Henry  •  10 mths ago
      We use to have a great country. Most people played by the rules and lived within their means. Our government is now a joke, we do not built or produce stuff anymore and our dollar is becoming worthless. A Ford F150 use to cost $ 2,000 in real money, now it costs
      $ 45,000 in play money. A trillion is 1,000 billion and govt. acts like it is only 10 bucks !
    • itsallaboutyou  •  10 mths ago
      This is what happens when you have lawyers as your statesmen. After all the drama, the DFL and GOP will come to a deal that will secure the biggest wealth transfer from the unwashed in history. The bailouts are endless, globally from this point foreword.
    • Franklin descendant  •  10 mths ago
      Social Security has money. Also, all the money coming in from FICA taxes is dedicated to Soc. Sec. benefits by law. National organizations for seniors should now be readying a lawsuit to the Supreme Court for the very day the Treasury Dept. misses a payment of benefits. Has anyone heard what AARP is fiddling around for? Get going you phony reps. Shouldn't the stop payment of benefits be the NUMBER ONE priority to reverse in order to protect seniors?
    • mad  •  10 mths ago
      Thomas Jefferson said "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and traitor's" Our government has become a group of traitorous tyrants
    • SSK388  •  10 mths ago
      Why do they continue to refer to social security and medicare as "entitlement" programs when we have been paying for social security all of our 50+ working years and are now having medicare insurance deducted from our social security checks monthly, besides having to pay for a secondary insurance?? No "entitlements" are given to senior citizens.
    • pierresplace  •  10 mths ago
      The People of America have done a terrible job in selecting officials to run the country. As a senior citizen set to begin retirement benefits I'm sitting here tonight with pains in my stomach that I may have a serious change in what I was told I would receive. At this age what else can I do but be victimized by the politics and the rich in America? If you have a criticism of me please remember that you are next.
    • MOSSBACK  •  10 mths ago
      We need to increase unemployment in this country. Put all those #$%$ in DC out of work! What a bunch of crap! The biggest theft in American History was when the Congress found out Social Security was not part of the budget and decided to put it in there to help balance things out. The Federal Government gave SSA $40 Billion in worthless IOU's and stole the "trust fund" to pay for other items in an unbalanced budget. SSA was in great shape, until that happened. Medicare is simply a venue for fraud, waste and abuse in about 25% of all cases. Doctors, hospitals and other health care providers take advantage of the programs to line their pockets with absurd profits.Oil companies, public utilities and defense contractors continue to rape, burn and pillage the American citizenry, while their minions buy the votes of those we send to DC to run this Ponzi scheme. Wake up, dammit!
    • WooHoo  •  10 mths ago
      DON’T BE CONNED!
      It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 235 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts - of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem, from an unfair tax code to defense overruns, that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist. One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme Court justices - 545 human beings out of the 235 million plus- are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.
      The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it. The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the HOUSE of REPRESENTATIVES for originating APPROPRIATIONS and TAXES. Boehner is the speaker of the House. He is the leader of the majority party. He and his fellow House members, NOT the president, can approve ANY BUDGET they want. If the president veto’s it, they can pass it, over his veto.
      If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair. If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red. If the Military are in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Libya, it's because they want them in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Libya . There are no insoluble government problems. Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take it. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exist disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation" or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do. Those 545 people and they alone are responsible. They and they alone have the power. They and they alone should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses - provided they have the gumption to manage their own employees.
    • Janet C  •  10 mths ago
      When you take God out of the picture, this is what we get. Have worked since I was 12 years old and saved so I could have a home, 2 children, and a car. Lost my husband to cancer. Lost my job as was over 50 and they down sized 12 of us. So now I baby sit to make ends meet. Which are getting harder and harder to do. Yet I see these kids having kids and getting more money with each kid. Our county was built on people that worked hard and believed in God and Country. Now look they have taken God out and even the President will not stand with hand over heart when they sing the National Anthem. We need to stand up and take America back. Go back to the Constitution, get these rich self serving Senaters out on their #$%$ and put in people for 2 years. They do not get any free medical and all their special interest groups kicked out too. I have had to live on a very tight budget all of my life. Always paid my bills, never got help. Stood on my own two feet and made it. Wish it was back to 1955 again. God Help us!
    • A Yahoo! User  •  10 mths ago
      Dear Government....please send me a 50 million dollar grant....I want to study the brains of the incompetents we have elected into office!!!! Shame on us!!!
    • Toni Wells  •  10 mths ago
      Why is it that the govt always attacks the elderly , disabled, and veterans. take away from us instead of taking away from others like the welfare . If you take away the cash money from people on welfare they would get off their lazy rear ends and get a job. I worked and paid into the Social Security and now im disabled and your saying im losing my only source of income. Whats wrong with this picture. Give up your pay for awhile and fix the problem you guys made instead of pointing fingers at this person and that person.
    • Felon in Congress  •  10 mths ago
      Before they consider touching SS and Medicare, they need to start with these in good faith: 1) pass an amendment that completely prohibits the inclusion of their pet projects in legislation; 2) tax all campaign donations at 60% to 90% and eliminate federal matching for them; 3) drastically decrease or stop all foreign aid until recovery begins, and minimize it thereafter; 4) take a pay cut; 5) force themselves to use the same health care and retirement plans we do, including the same tax liabilities and age restrictions that they have set forth for us; and 6) rewrite the tax code eliminating the infinite tricky loopholes for the wealthy so that EVERYONE pays their fair share -- including corporations. These are for starters, and they can then next concentrate on all of the wasteful spending that exists in every current spending bill. But they won't, because they don't have to, and it is not in their financial interests or the interests of their donors and wealthy "friends". They'll just make the problem they caused to be ours to solve -- with our wallets.
    • GBJOE  •  10 mths ago
      I don't mind paying a little more to help solve the problem... However, EVERYONE (poor, middle class, rich, corporations...) must pay a little more, or lose some benefits (including politicians!). No Pork, bring our troops home, cut military spending. NOW DO YOUR JOBS, work together, and get it done!!
    • Nathan M  •  10 mths ago
      For those that are angry at those trying to cut spending, shouldn't you be angry at those who spent the money instead? We've had excessive spending for the last 40 years, really.
    • Ken  •  10 mths ago
      Wake up people! Our government is out of control! They are robbing the American public blind and running our country into the ground and we are just letting it happen. They don't care about you or me. All they care about is lining their own pockets and setting themselves up for life. We the American people need to get control of this great nation back by getting these leaches out of office, limiting their powers and doing what is really best for the American public. If we do not we are going to see this great nation under god go down the toilet and you and I with it. The question we should all be asking ourselves is how do we start over? Reform our government and get ride of the wealth and power hungry politicians and get back what they took from us. If I knew how to do this I would. Pull together and find our own solutions. Fire all of the republicans and democrats and get a fresh new start. Come on, we can do this somehow. We must or we are letting them suck us dry.
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