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    Debt Re-aging Dangers: Use Caution When Contacted About Old Past-Due Bills

    The Federal Trade Commission has just cracked down on debt collector Asset Acceptance LLC for misrepresenting itself when trying to collect old debts. But this story is much bigger than just one company. There is an entire industry out there, called the debt-buying industry, that you may not know about. Sounds weird, but your old, unpaid debts have value and can be sold to other companies. These companies buy your old debt for a fraction of what you owe in hopes that they can collect the whole amount from you and make a big profit. Old debt like this is dubbed "zombie debt," because it never seems to die.

    Here's the tricky part: All states have statutes of limitation on how long they can be sued to collect a debt. And after seven years, unpaid debts usually fall off your credit report and are no longer held against you. The FTC accused Asset Acceptance of implying to debtors that it could sue them for debts that were past the statute of limitations. They can't do that unless you let them. Asset Acceptance had to pay fines in a $2.5 million settlement and must now disclose that they can't sue over old debts that passed the legal time limit. But the company said the settlement does not represent admission of the FTC's claims.

    That's where "debt re-aging" comes in. Some consumers, out of principle, will agree to make a payment on an old debt, not knowing that, depending on where they live, that can reset the statute of limitations, giving the debt collector a fresh opening to take legal action against them. The other way it can happen is when a collection company reports an old debt that has fallen off your credit report to the credit bureaus, so that the seven-year time period begins again.

    As I write this, it sounds so confusing, but here's the bottom line: You are still responsible for debts past the statute of limitations. But if you are in tough financial straits, you should do your homework before starting to pay them down, because you may be forced to pay the entire debt when you're not in a position to do so. Worse yet, you could find yourself in court, where a debt collector could possibly garnish your wages or put a lien against your house to collect.

    Your choices, as a consumer faced with a claim for an old debt, sometimes called a "time-barred debt," have so many "ifs" and "buts" that I'm going to do something unusual and cut and paste the FTC's own advice brochure in here, so that I don't mess up the explanation. First, here is the entire FTC brochure to review. And below are the most important parts:

    The Federal Trade Commission's Advice on Time-Barred or Old Debts:

    "The statute of limitations varies from state to state and for different kinds of debts. It is also tricky because, under certain circumstances, the clock can be reset, and the time period can be started fresh. That's why the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the nation's consumer protection agency, says it's important to understand your rights if a debt collector contacts you about an old debt.

    When is an old debt too old for a collector to sue?

    Typically, state law determines how long the statute of limitations lasts. Usually, the clock starts ticking when you fail to make a payment; when it stops depends on two things: the type of debt and the law that applies either in the state where you live or the state specified in your credit contract. For example, the statute of limitations for credit card debt in a few states may be as long as 10 years, but most states impose a period of three to six years. To determine the statute of limitations on different kinds of debts under each state's law, check with a legal aid lawyer, another attorney, or your State Attorney General's Office.

    What should I do if a debt collector calls about a time-barred debt?

    Collectors are allowed to contact you about time-barred debts. They might tell you that the debt is time-barred and that they can't sue you if you don't pay.

    If a collector doesn't tell you that a particular debt is time-barred — but you think that it might be — ask the collector if the debt is beyond the statute of limitations. If the collector answers your question, the law requires that his answer be truthful. Some collectors may decline to answer, however. Another question to ask a collector if you think that a debt might be time-barred is what their records show as the date of your last payment. This is important, because it helps determine when the statute of limitations clock starts ticking. If a collector doesn't give you this information, send him a letter within 30 days of receiving a written notice of the debt. Explain that you are 'disputing' the debt and that you want to 'verify' it. The more information you give the collector about why you are disputing the debt, the better. Collectors must stop trying to collect until they give you verification. Keep a copy of your letter and the verification you receive.

    Must I pay a debt that's considered time-barred?

    The decision to pay a time-barred debt is up to you. You have options, but each one has consequences. For example, whether you pay the debt and how much you pay will affect your credit rating. Consider talking to a lawyer before you choose an option.

    Pay nothing on the debt. Although the collector may not sue you to collect the debt, you still owe it. The collector can continue to contact you to try to collect, unless you send a letter to the collector demanding that communication stop. Not paying a debt may make it harder, or more expensive, to get credit, insurance, or other services because not paying may lower your credit rating.

    Make a partial payment on the debt. In some states, if you pay any amount on a time-barred debt or even promise to pay, the debt is 'revived.' This means the clock resets and a new statute of limitations period begins. It also often means the collector can sue you to collect the full amount of the debt, which may include additional interest and fees.

    Pay off the debt. Even though the collector may not be able to sue you, you may decide to pay off the debt. Some collectors may be willing to accept less than the amount you owe to settle the debt, either in one large payment or a series of small ones. Make sure you get a signed form or letter from the collector before you make any payment. This document should state that the entire debt is being settled and that the amount to be paid will release you from any further obligation. Without this document, the amount paid may be treated as a partial payment on the debt, instead of a complete payment. Keep a record of the payments you make to pay off the debt.

    The FTC's brochure goes on to discuss what you should do if you are actually sued for a time-barred debt, but let's hope you take the steps above and never let it get to that point. Here are additional helpful FTC consumer education links: • Debt Collection FAQs: A Guide for ConsumersDealing with Debt Collectors (video)

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    • terryt  •  Dunkirk, New York  •  3 mths ago
      No institution should be allowed to sellout old deb,.period.
      • K. Soaze 3 mths ago
        Exactly, especially when they have insurance to write it off in the first place.

        it is simply how the system is designed. And while not justifying it, when the original holder of the debt essentially rights it off via insurance for that's what they have it for, then turns around and sells it to these scourge should be illegal, but it's not. The amount doesn't matter, it could be $5 or $ 500 but when that based on faux interest it's allowed to balloon, overdue fees, etc on an account that is no longer active, and these vermin can collect far more than the original amount should be classified as a form of racketeering. As we have heard there are many practices that could/should be considered immoral but because the govt. allows, thereby tacitly endorsing this behavior, it's a very successful scheme run amok. The country simply could not exist without debt, that's why it's permitted.

        When we were born in the United States, it was a sentencing that took place, we came as SLAVES, that's is how the country supports itself. We are paroled when we leave, in his words, free at last free at least, thank GOD ALMIGHTY free at last!!!!

        Til Debt Do Us Part!!

        http://21centurysuicidewatch.com
      • Randall 3 mths ago
        I bought a bed from gallery furn in Houston. I don't know why I even messed w/Wells Fargo. I could've paid that day. But I took the credit and paid it off before the interest kicked back in. I think it was 18 months. This was 4 years ago. I just got a letter from WF saying my gallery furn account was seriously delinquent, that I owed them the whole $6,000! Believe me, I had hell trying to get this straightened out. But guess what? my fico score of 780 is now 609 and I can't do a #$%$ thing about it. Well, I am a widow and fortunately, my husband was a shrewd investor and left me very financially secure. From now on, its either my discover card or cash. Screw the whole #$%$ credit industry!
      • Elihu 3 mths ago
        Sounds like a nice bed.
    • Henry  •  Tampa, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      I dont ever answer the phone when i see its an 800 number or i will answer and say City Morgue how may i help u? LMAO.
      • Fuzzy Mutt 3 mths ago
        Thank God for caller ID.
      • leisa 3 mths ago
        I like to thank them for calling since I was looking for a new target for my "most dangerous game"
      • DONNA H 3 mths ago
        How can I stop 800 calls. They will call sometimes 10x daily.
    • havnusebrain  •  Flint, Michigan  •  3 mths ago
      To all the self-righteous pr icks who still believe it's as simple as paying your bill on time....hang on, your day is coming. Over 40 years as a single mom responsibly handling my bills and guarding my credit without one iota of help from ANYONE, B of A wiped me out!
      Mortgage Services made a mistake,reported it to the credit bureau and refused to correct it!!!!
      B of A jumped on that, raised my interest to 30% and nothing I did would get them to correct it. Lawyer told me to stop making payments in June. I hung on making outrageous payments until January....saw I owed more than when I started. Long ugly story....it was no holds barred, open season for the creditors. They could do anything they wanted and they did! I'm 70, disabled, half my income goes for my home of $68K. Just taken to court where I agreed to fraction of what I was being sued for because the chance of losing the bigger amount was unbearable. The incredible thing is the man behind the buying of these debts is an African from the Ivory Coast named Stan Zeze. He has offices all over....Bloomfield Investments in Michigan. Moved the boiler room scams of the Ivory Coast to the hallowed halls of the US. Welcome to the Global economy and hang on to your hats. The ride has just started!!!
      • Natalie 3 mths ago
        How do you know about Stan Zeze? I've never heard about this. I just googled his name and saw that he works for Bloomfield Financial, but I can't find any info connecting him to debt buying specifically. If there is info we can get out there to the public I say we should do it. Start a Facebook page and get the word out.
      • Charioteer 3 mths ago
        You should have listened to your attorney and done exactly what he said. You could have contacted an online attorney for free as soon as the interest rate was raised to 30% following the credit mistake. You also might have gotten help from a local news agency.
      • dakinekrab 3 mths ago
        Blackfeet 5 is spot on, if you look at the facts you will see what is right in front of your faces! We have been led down a path and the few of us that payed attention or were just plain lucky managed to stay out of the mess. What happened to everyone else borders on the criminal, and the banks, creditors and members of both parties that allowed this travesty to happen should be held accountable.

        Those that made every effort to pay down their debts, even after loosing their jobs and spending their savings should have 50% of their debt forgiven. Let the mega banks absorb some of this as they were so happy to rack up massive profits at our expense when things were going well before the crash in 2008.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  Brandon, Minnesota  •  3 mths ago
      i dropped my landline to my house and the calls ended.
      • just here 3 mths ago
        I did that too, but be careful, cell phone companies now release cellphone numbers...i now get harassed anywhere from 1 to 15 times a day, by just one company. It's embarrassing to be out somewhere and the phone wont quit ringing. I cant turn it off because my kids need to be able to reach me and I am caring for an elderly parent that needs to be able to reach me. It sucks.
      • cg 3 mths ago
        yeah they call my cell too
      • DONNA H 3 mths ago
        I WOULD LIKE TO DROP MY LANDLINE BUT AM AFRAID THAT THEY WILL HARASS MY NEIGHBORS. THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. THEY USED A CROSS-REFERENCE REAL ESTATE LIST TO CALL THEM. ISN'T THIS ILLEGAL.
    • Ann  •  Houston, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      These collectors are vultures and will go after everything you have that is in your name - including any savings accounts for your children. That happened to me and left my daughter without money to pay her college expenses for the semester and no recourse because they took the money out of her account because I had my name on it since she was small. Once they take it, its gone and they aren't giving it back whether the debt was legitimate or not. We are almost better off to bury our money in the backyard.
      • Al 3 mths ago
        Put your money in a trust fund. It won't be in your name and they can't take it. Name yourself as administrator and you can give yourself cash whenever you have a reason that sounds good to you.
      • chrome 3 mths ago
        Since the economy has tanked... they've interviewed hundreds of people who now firmly believe NO MORE in banks...and are stashing cash in their pillow cases again! IT's like the Depression all over again.
      • Coupe DeVille 3 mths ago
        Or, you could just pay what you owe.
    • Anna  •  Cheyenne, Wyoming  •  3 mths ago
      Our credit rating should have nothing to do with the rate of our insurence. That #$%$ me off and I think they are way to big for their own britches! Big rip offs insurence companies!
    • Albacorewing  •  Alhambra, California  •  3 mths ago
      A lot of these debt collectors and credit card companies are sharks. Do not in any way give them an even break. When my son was 10 years old, he started getting credit card offers in the mail. These people want you to be their slave for life.
    • Lowly citizen  •  3 mths ago
      my dad is dead - they can't collect from dead people who died broke.
    • Ricky M  •  Jackson, Mississippi  •  3 mths ago
      If I don't know who you are on caller ID. I just hang up.
    • Tom  •  West Chicago, Illinois  •  3 mths ago
      The debt collecting indusrty is the most corrupt industry we have.
    • AF T  •  3 mths ago
      Ignore most of them since most states have a time limit on collection by third party collectors. Most debts are sold to third party collectors and written off by the original debtor. It is the third party collection agencies that are unscrupulous. They have no legal right to collect the debt. The only have a legal right to attempt to collect such and only within a set time frame in most states.
    • Al  •  3 mths ago
      I had a jerk calling me constantly over a small bill. I didn't buy enough cassettes to fulfill my contract. They wanted the money anyway. I told him I wasn't working and had to feed four kids so he would have to wait. He said I should be out looking for a job. I told him he was the only person I knew who had a job. I asked him to put in a good word for me. I could be an #$%$ and harass people on the phone better than him. He started swearing so I hung up. He never called again.
    • John  •  3 mths ago
      simply ignore it.
    • Dumb changes  •  New York, New York  •  3 mths ago
      "Although the collector may not sue you to collect the debt, you still owe it. The collector can continue to contact you to try to collect, unless you send a letter to the collector demanding that communication stop. Not paying a debt may make it harder, or more expensive, to get credit, insurance, or other services because not paying may lower your credit rating. "

      BAD ADVICE. If it's past the statue of limitations, DO NOT PAY ANYTHING REGARDLESS IF YOU FEEL YOU OWE IT OR NOT.

      If you pay it will re-age your debt, and likely LOWER your credit score, because it will show up as a current account again. Note the COLLECTOR can continue to contact you to try and collect. By the time a debt hits its statute of limitations the original company will have written it off and sold it for 2 cents on the dollar to bottom feeding debt collectors.

      ALWAYS request validation of the debt, which includes not only the fact that there is debt outstanding, but validation that this account actually exists, including your signature on the initial application form. DO NOT provide "as much information as you can" to make it easier to validate the debt.

      If the information comes back incorrect, then it is not a VALID debt, and you can then request it be removed from your credit report.
    • DV  •  Decatur, Illinois  •  3 mths ago
      I just ask them if i can ask a question they always say yes then i ask. What color of panties are you wearing? and they hang up.
    • chrome  •  3 mths ago
      Also...don't forget: EVEN IF you are fortunate enough to work a so-called "deal" with a collector.. and you manage to pay only a fraction of the total debt in an agreement, THEY ARE THEN REQUIRED BY LAW TO SEND YOU A 1099 AT THE END OF THAT YEAR for the total amount that was "forgiven". Thereby, forwarding a 1099 to the IRS that looks like that was INCOME for the year!... and you will have to pay taxes on that "forgiven" debt.
    • Richard  •  3 mths ago
      Put in the shredder !!!
    • Robert P  •  Houston, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      You can make bill collectors stop their calls and letters with just a certified letter! The article omitted was the fact that you can send a certified letter (return-receipt requested) demanding that bill collectors stop all debt-collection communications with you and all other third parties. Also, tell them that your employer does not permit debt-collection calls or visits to your workplace. Federal law, the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, requires all third-party debt collectors (not a credit card company if they are calling you themselves) stop ALL calls and letters. They are allowed ONE communication after they receive your letter and that is all. Keep a copy of your letter and the green return receipt, copies of all letters you receive from the debt collector, a telephone log of all calls you receive (date, time, name of caller, plus any threats made). If the debt collector persists in harassing you, take your file to a consumer law attorney. You can sue the debt collector for violating the FDCPA and probably for violations of your rights under state law like deceptive and unfair business practices, invasion of privacy, etc. Your attorney will likely have you send a second letter to your original creditor notifying them of the unlawful conduct of their agent. If the harassment continues, most states' laws hold BOTH the original creditor and the debt collector liable for violating your rights because the original creditor "ratified" the bad conduct of the debt collector when it failed to stop the unlawful conduct. Without this second letter the original creditor (e.g., credit card company) will assert that they are innocent and that their debt collector is an "independent agent" and they will also assert the mistake was a "bona fide error" on their part (a.k.a the "oops" defense that the FDCPA actually allows!). But once everyone has been notified of your assertion of your right to be free of harassment, they had better obey the law because if they do not, they do so at their own risk. The FDCPA is a federal law and it applies to ALL third party debt collectors (and sometimes to original creditors if they fail to properly identify themselves, etc.) in every state. If the debt collector is a law firm -- so what -- the law treats them just like every other bill collector because that is exactly what they are. Send them a letter too! If an original creditor tells you "The FDCPA does not apply to us because we are your original creditor" you can respond with "And my rights to privacy under both state law and the U.S. Constitution DO apply to you and if you persist in harassing me I will sue you and you can explain your corporate policy to a federal judge and jury." Check your state's laws before you record a telephone call. In Texas you can record a call made to you (or by you) on your own telephone without the other person's consent. I recommend that you add in your letter "All telephone calls made to me are subject to being recorded and if you make any calls to me you are consenting to such recording." In states where you need consent to record calls, this should suffice -- but again, check with a local attorney or call your state's Attorney General's office before you record calls on your own telephone to make certain you do not violate the law in your state. The article makes a very good point -- NEVER promise to pay anything and NEVER give any bank info, personal info, or employer info over the telephone. FYI: in Texas the deadline to file suit over a debt (breach of contract) is four years from the date of breach. If someone sues you for an old debt your attorney will win by getting the case dismissed. FYI: yes, I am an attorney but I never played one on TV. Best wishes.
    • ub40  •  3 mths ago
      If it's been years, just say "you have the wrong number" and hang up.
    • pb007_2000  •  Evansville, Indiana  •  3 mths ago
      DEBT COLLECTOR SHOULD BE OUTLAWED!!!!!!!!!!!!
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