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    Defense cuts test lawmakers' resolve on deficits

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama's call to shrink the military, shut bases and cancel weapons to meet the demand for budget cuts tests the resolve of lawmakers who came to Washington determined to slash the deficit.

    A new national security strategy reflecting an end to decade-long wars in Iraq and Afghanistan offers the opportunity to reduce defense spending and government deficits by hundreds of billions of dollars over the next 10 years — but at a cost of thousands of jobs in lawmakers' states and districts.

    Democrats as well as Republicans are resisting, looking to protect home turf from California, where the Global Hawk unmanned aircraft is built, to Wisconsin, home to speedy Littoral combat ships, to military installations all across the country.

    "It's funny that we want to save money everywhere except when it can bother us," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said in an interview. Graham is a member of the Armed Services Committee and one of the few lawmakers who favors another round of domestic base closings.

    Defense Secretary Leon Panetta recently outlined a $525 billion budget for next year that's $6 billion less than the current level. The proposal is the first step in the deficit-cutting plan that Obama and congressional Republicans agreed to last summer that calls for a reduction in projected defense spending of $487 billion over 10 years.

    "Make no mistake, the savings that we are proposing will impact on all 50 states and many districts, congressional districts, across America," Panetta said at a news conference spelling out the new strategy. "This will be a test, a test of whether reducing the deficit is about talk or about action."

    Obama submits his complete budget proposal to Congress on Feb. 13, but Panetta's preview included enough details to stir alarm on Capitol Hill.

    The budget calls for canceling the Air Force's Global Hawk program, a high-altitude unmanned aircraft used for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance. The Pentagon said the aircraft's cost at $215 million apiece make it less cost-effective than the existing U-2 spy planes that burst on the scene in the 1950s and were critical in finding Soviet missiles in Cuba in 1962.

    Northrop Grumman, the aircraft's prime contractor, builds the planes in Palmdale, Calif., located in the district of the House Armed Services Committee Chairman Howard "Buck" McKeon.

    The aircraft is based at Beale Air Force Base, near Marysville, Calif., soon to be in the redrawn congressional district of Democratic Rep. John Garamendi, a member of the committee. The program also is one of many that the Air Force manages at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in the district of Rep. Michael Turner, R-Ohio, another committee member.

    McKeon has criticized the overall military cuts but has not commented specifically on the Global Hawk. The Republican did send a clear message to the Pentagon and the White House when he promised to hold hearings on the budget "keeping in mind that while the president proposes, Congress disposes."

    Garamendi questioned the Pentagon's rationale, especially since six months ago it called the Global Hawk a critical program with no alternatives "that will provide acceptable capability to meet the joint military requirement at less cost."

    "Now we're going in the other direction and I'm going, 'guys you got some explaining to do. What changed? What is the reason here?" Garamendi, who has been a strong proponent of Beale AFB, said in an interview. He called the U-2 an "incredible machine, but it can't stay over the target for 20 hours. Global Hawk can stay there for a day or more. So explanations are needed."

    Deputy Defense Secretary Ashton Carter's reason at the briefing with Panetta: "That's the fate of things that become too expensive in a resource-constrained environment."

    But just a few months ago, the Pentagon had said that "when analyzed in the context of the Global Hawk mission, the U-2 costs $220 million per year more than the Global Hawk."

    Panetta also called for slowing the pace of building new ships and speeding up the retirement of older ones. The Pentagon blueprint said it would reduce the purchase of Littoral combat ships, the speedy boats built at shipyards in Wisconsin and Alabama, by two. It didn't provide more specifics.

    The ship is built in the city of Marinette on the Wisconsin-Michigan border, and has meant hundreds of jobs in the two states. While Wisconsin has an unemployment rate of 7.1 percent, Michigan's jobless rate of 9.3 percent is well above the nation's.

    The chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee is Michigan Democrat Carl Levin, who declined to comment about specifics of the budget proposal. Freshman Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., praised the Littoral as a ship that "just keeps us a little more nimble."

    Contributing to the nervousness on Capitol Hill — and in the defense industry — is the prospect of deeper cuts in the military. The deficit-cutting supercommittee's failure last fall to come up with at least $1.2 trillion in savings last year means automatic, across-the-board cuts for defense and domestic programs beginning next January.

    For the Pentagon, that would mean an additional $492 billion reduction over a decade on top of the $487 billion.

    Top Republican senators have proposed reductions in the federal workforce and a freeze in federal pay to delay the automatic cuts for a year. Both the White House and congressional Democrats have rejected any move to undo the automatic cuts absent a far-reaching deficit-cutting plan.

    Jeremy W. Devaney, a senior equity analyst in defense technology for BB&T Capital Markets, said contractors look at Congress and the administration, and "they don't believe sequester is going to happen, but they don't know how it's not going to happen."

     
    • S  •  3 mths ago
      plain and simple those idiots blew it with the supercommittee now they are going to renig on the results of their inactions
    • Give me Liberty or Give m ...  •  Sacramento, California  •  3 mths ago
      Carter did the same thing in the 70's. The words economic disaster do not cover what happened after that. Close over seas bases, stop paying lease money and the high cost of transporting equipment over seas. Again, to little, too late. The only reason they are looking at domestic bases is because we can see it, feel it and they can say " we did what ya said, what you don't like it?"

      Just a game, Billions, over 10 years, what a joke. CLOSE OVER SEAS BASES AND STOP HAVING TO PAY LEASE AGREEMENTS WILL SAVE US BILLIONS NOW.
    • jsf  •  3 mths ago
      Defense cuts cut US jobs in the hopes that jobs financed by private consumption will replace them. If you lose your job at an army base airplane parts factory, remember you are helping to reduce the deficit. Long term, probably a good thing, but hard if it's your job.
    • Richard  •  Wheat Ridge, Colorado  •  3 mths ago
      The first myth that must be determined is the use of the word defense. When we build countless bases around the world and use them for covert or openly visible wars, this is not defense, this is aggression. This is why I hate lawyers, (congress and senate), they twist words to deceive for their own gain. Iraq was not a defensive war.They never attacked American soil! When you start a war, this is not defense. It is amazing to me that we will fight to see how many domestic military bases we will close, but not foreign military bases. Our government is more worried about keeping their jobs, trying to scam the Federal Government for keeping alive unnecessary jobs, (so they can get elected for the next term), or lie and threaten jobs to scare people into voting for them. It's obvious that our government does not care about the welfare of it's citizens nor it's country. They only care about a lavish lifestyle that includes dictatorial power trip and thinking of ways to horde vast amounts of wealth, at the expense of everyone's lives. And what saddens me is many Americans just keep voting these morons into office. We call ourselves smart and we don't even know what the word defense means.
    • Hiding in plain sight  •  Maynard, Massachusetts  •  3 mths ago
      Reading the story there is another story within it.Insider Trading. Notice that all the members of the Armed Services committee have big contracts in their districts that are paying them I bet big bucks. None of our current defense contracts were put out for public bid,they were all just given to friends of Congressional members. THis is not how business should be done.
    • fox hunter  •  Everett, Washington  •  3 mths ago
      There are 52 weeks in a year. It costs us $2.1 billion per week in Afghanistan. Instead of trying to take the pension from firefighters, teachers, and the police. Perhaps you may examine the $2,000,000,000 x 52 problem.
      • roberts 3 mths ago
        teachers, firefighters and police, ever consider what they do for what salary they get. They don't go to these jobs because they want to work, they go there because there is security, big pensions and immunity from cutbacks And very little work. My wife is a teacher and they all brag about how good they got it and here in Dallas it will only get even better and they have not responsibility to do effective teaching. Law one of business, get someone to do the job or replace them.
      • Jim 3 mths ago
        public workers do earn thier money, considering they also act in dangerous situations that you yourself wont consider doing. if public work is so gravy why dont you apply for a job in such? oh thats right its dangerous not to mention they dont pay enough to deal with the risks that you might get injured or even killed. these so called big pensions please tell me where you found such info. considering they pay into thier pensions throughtout thier career. i have never heard a public worker having it really good as they often get paid alot less than the private. hate to say it but you are definitely talking out your rear considering you are in a right to work state.
    • Rasser  •  3 mths ago
      The big challenge here is keep the congress from weaseling out of the automatic cuts both parties agreed to. They agreed that if the deficit-cutting super committee didn't come up with $1.2 trillion in savings, the automatic cuts would do it for them. Let the automatic cuts happen. At least some progress will be made in spite of the committee's failure.
      • BERNARD 3 mths ago
        Awesome the first person I agree with
      • trevor 3 mths ago
        Sad thing is these cuts are 1.2 Trillion in savings over 10 years in proposed increases . WOO we save 200 billion a year in proposed increases in the budget. LOL such a joke. We can cut all that overseas spending on wars and save a half trillion in a year.
    • We the People!  •  3 mths ago
      Cut military spending..but not in my district..that hurts my chances of getting re-elected....typical politicians.....out for themselves....screw us!
    • DERK  •  Tampa, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      cut the huge defense budget. why are we the world's police ???
      • TheFreeOne 3 mths ago
        Because all super powers are until they fold because of it.
    • Pamela  •  Yorba Linda, California  •  3 mths ago
      I am wondering how much could be saved by getting rid of the many mercenary groups and government contractors and just use American troops to facilitate our bases and war efforts.It used to be the military took care of itself, it didn't require outside companies to cook and provide for them.
      My husband peeled potatoes when it was his turn and he says his mess sergeant was the best cook he's ever encountered.Hmmm?
      • John 3 mths ago
        Pamela, we had a huge military downsizing in the early 1990s. The govt realized it cut troop strength by too much and that's when they started using contractors in such large numbers. They got more manpower without violating congress's restrictions on troop levels, and it was cheaper (because they didn't have to fund pensions and lifetime healthcare).

        If we're looking at another round of downsizing in order to save money, cutting active troops saves a lot more than cutting contractors.
      • shaharazod 3 mths ago
        you can thank dick cheney for that. under him, subcontracting of services that were done by the military themselves became the preferred method, because it enriched all his friends from Texas (Halliburton, Blackwater). it's really disgusting.
    • pat  •  3 mths ago
      All these republicans arguing that we can not cut defense spending because their state will lose jobs. I thought the gov't did not create jobs, the free market creates jobs. The global hawk cost 215 mill each. That is 4300 teachers at 50,000/yr for each plane. That is 86000 citizens(kids) at 20kids/classroom. How is this even an issue.
      • stat man 3 mths ago
        I agree. See my post on that theme. Repbublicans only "think" until they get to a place they like, then they lock in. Thinking takes a lot of energy, that could better be used on watching American Idol or shopping.
      • stat man 3 mths ago
        but, but, butt," sputter ReBUBBAlik'n Congressmen, "building weapons makes JOBS for Americans! We can just take the money to pay for that from teachers, and government workers - government funded jobs aren't REAL jobs! And when Super Committee ReBUBBAlik'ns put everything on the table, they didn't REALLY mean 'defense.' You can't expect us to hold to what they didn't mean, even though they SAID it!!"
      • Jean 3 mths ago
        they didn't worry about jobs when they gave tax breaks to move manufacturing out of the USA.
    • Ken  •  Salinas, California  •  3 mths ago
      Why not force these greedy fools to take cuts in their pay and benefit? Why go after the military, Soscial Security, or Medicare, they have a habit of taking from those that need it the most, and continue to give themselves pay raises, and exclude themselves from what they are forcing on the middle class! Show some real balls and take the smae cuts in pay and benifits they tell everybody else to take!
    • Witness  •  3 mths ago
      Oh, yeah. The GOP has been all talk until now. The irony is that everyone has gone along w/ establishing the imperial presidency since WWII. That office, under both parties, has made massive misuse of our military. There's a reason you don't hear any modern songs about any glorious military triumphs. Oh, come sing about Panama and Grenada! What a joke, except for the lives and trillions of bucks wasted.

      We'll actually be safer when it's pared down.
    • GeorgeB  •  3 mths ago
      What's defined as pork often hinges on whose district the money is being spent in, and who you're asking. If it's in MY district, its 'necessary government expenditures', and reducing those expenditures will 'hurt national defense'. If it's in the next guy's district, it's wasteful government spending, and needs to be cut right away, and cut deeply.
    • jaguargod  •  3 mths ago
      Why is congress fighting this? They are the ones that wrote the law that required automatic cuts if they couldn't reach an agreement on budget cuts. All they want to do is conduct political posturing and obstruct one another. Well, this one bit them in the butt, and now they want to try to find a way to crawdad out of it. If we have a limited supply of money, and money isn't cut from defense, where do they propose to cut it from? Social Security, Medicare, education, infrastructure improvement? I don't think so. Follow through on your obligations, and don't expect us to suffer when you don't. You brought this on yourself.
    • Doc  •  3 mths ago
      Republicans are always for cutting spending! You know, except when it comes to cutting spending.
    • GBush  •  3 mths ago
      Mitt Romney and his magic underwear will protect us.
    • Robert  •  Mundelein, Illinois  •  3 mths ago
      republicants are all talk, they are bought by big defense firms, they will resist and cause further budget problems.....
    • William  •  3 mths ago
      I am a retired USAF veteran and can tell you that the DoD's budget should be cut/trimmed. They need to spend their money better and more wiser.

      But I will also say that every Government Department or Agency should be under the budget-cutting knife as well. Washington DC spends too much money! And that goes for Democrats and Republicans as well!!!
    • rex m  •  3 mths ago
      I thought the GOP wanted a smaller government. Guess that just smoke.
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