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    Democrats see minefield in Occupy protests

    NEW YORK (AP) — The Republican Party and the tea party seemed to be a natural political pairing. But what may have seemed like another politically beneficial alliance — Democrats and Occupy Wall Street — hasn't happened.

    Although both Democrats and the Occupy protesters have similar views on economic inequality and corporate responsibility, each holds the other at arm's length. There's little benefit to Democrats in opening their arms wide to a scruffy group that has erupted in violence, defied police and shown evidence of drug use while camping in public parks across the country — much as the prospect of such a pairing delights Republicans.

    Many protesters, in turn, are contemptuous of Democrats, arguing that both political parties are equally beholden to corporate interests and responsible for enacting policies that have hurt the middle class.

    Both sides may be missing an opportunity. Polling shows the public supports the message of the Occupy Wall Street movement even if people have reservations about the encampments themselves. And political observers say Democrats may be missing a chance to reinvigorate their base.

    "It's injecting energy and life into progressive ideas and values, and it's showing some weak-kneed Democrats they should be more aggressive on those issues," Steve Rosenthal, a Democratic strategist and longtime labor leader, said. "I don't think it will translate into boots on the ground or a clear organization for the 2012 election, but it will definitely help shape the debate."

    Occupy Wall Street hasn't been easy for risk-averse elected officials to endorse.

    The movement has lacked leadership and a clear focus, and illegal behavior has turned off some politicians. Mayors, citing concerns over sanitation and public safety, have begun to crack down on the encampments, and police in riot gear have cleared protesters from several cities, including New York, Portland, Ore., and Oakland, Calif.

    Republicans have largely dismissed the Occupy Wall Street as a band of anti-capitalist ruffians, while trying to goad Democrats into embracing the movement or answering for its excesses.

    GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney has called the movement dangerous class warfare, while Michele Bachmann called the protesters "ignorant" and "disrespectful."

    So far, Democrats have tried to have it both ways — embracing the movement's economic concerns while steering clear of its rougher edges.

    "I think people feel separated from their government," President Barack Obama told ABC News. "They feel that their institutions are not looking out for them." The president has said his jobs plan, which would boost taxes on high earners, is a way to address some of the protesters' concerns.

    The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has gone a step further, posting a petition, "100,000 Strong Standing With Occupy Wall Street," that blames Republican policies for the nation's economic discontent.

    But many Occupy Wall Street activists say they are disillusioned with Obama and have no interest in helping him or other Democratic candidates.

    "The Occupy movement is rooted in the idea that the political system is broken to such a degree that we can no longer work through the Republican or Democratic parties," Tim Franzen, a spokesman for Occupy Atlanta, said.

    "This is not about politics. This is about people," said Marsha Spencer, an Occupy volunteer in New York. "We've lost our government. It's not by the people, for the people anymore. We need to get it back, and we don't need a political party to do that."

    Such talk has frustrated some Democratic leaders, who say engaging electoral politics would make the Occupy Wall Street movement more effective.

    "I want them to get up and start registering voters, start playing towards the 2012 election," former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell said at a seminar at Harvard University last week. "Not just the presidential, but congressional and Senate elections and state legislative elections. That's where they can make real change."

    At least one candidate seems to be channeling the energy of the Occupy Wall Street movement: Democrat Elizabeth Warren, a Harvard Law School professor challenging Republican Sen. Scott Brown in Massachusetts.

    Warren's campaign has drawn national attention after she described how the rich should pay more in taxes since they had benefited the most from government policies. Warren later claimed to have laid the "intellectual foundation" for the Occupy movement but stressed that protesters need to obey the law.

    While Warren's campaign has drawn intense grass-roots enthusiasm — an estimated 1,000 people jammed a volunteer meeting in Boston on Sunday — Republicans are eager to turn her ties to the Occupy movement against her.

    Crossroads GPS, a Republican super PAC with ties to former George W. Bush political director Karl Rove, released a television ad in Massachusetts linking Warren to rowdy Occupy protests. The group also called on Warren to "condemn the Occupy Wall Street movement for the escalating criminality, violence and extreme radicalization."

    For their part, Republicans recognized an electoral ally in the tea party movement soon after its inception in early 2009, when activists began protesting government spending and the federal bank bailouts.

    While many tea party members claimed to be nonpartisan, they were mostly white, older and Republican-leaning and shared the GOP's goal of limiting government and cutting spending. Obama was the poster child for the opposite view. Tea party activists helped drive many of the angry congressional town hall meetings protesting Obama's health care overhaul, and the sweeping Republican victories in the 2010 midterm elections were fueled in large party by tea party enthusiasm.

    While the Occupy movement has not had similar tangible goals, activists say it has already had an impact on the political dialogue.

    Labor leaders say the movement's message of economic inequality was a factor in Ohio, where voters overwhelmingly repealed a law curtailing public employees' right to collective bargaining. And some are crediting the movement with successfully pressuring Bank of America to drop its plan to charge customers a $5 monthly fee to use their bank cards.

    Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., introduced legislation last week to prevent banks from circumventing state-level caps on interest rates. In an interview with The Associated Press, Whitehouse credited the Occupy movement for renewing public focus on banking practices.

    "I'm hoping we can take advantage of some of that interest and energy in this," Whitehouse said.

    Karin Hofmann, an Occupy activist in New York, said she was sure Obama's decision to delay approval of the controversial Keystone oil pipeline was a reaction to the Occupy movement.

    "We've changed the whole conversation. It's been a paradigm shift," she said.

    ___

    Associated Press writers Erika Niedowski in Providence, R.I., and Leonard Pallats in Atlanta contributed to this report.

     
    • America  •  Norfolk, United States  •  5 mths ago
      What the dumocraps failed to learn is the money given for the bailouts were voted unanimously by a dumocrap run house and senate. Forking over the money with NO ACCOUNTABILITY continues under obuma and companies like Solyndra, acorn, aig, and the rest have done nothing but put the money where it can't be found and NOW file for bankruptcy. OCCUPY DC is saying screw DC, screw the greed, and screw obuma with his lies. That is why the dumocraps cannot associate with the occupiers because they are the problem.
    • Robert  •  Louisville, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Isn't this the same story they did last week with a few new sentences
      • Dee 6 mths ago
        They downsided the newsroom to increase profits so they can't afford to write new stories ....
      • paul 6 mths ago
        who gave these idiots the right to speak for the american people?4 or5 of these idiots. say what ever and we are supposed to believe them.how dumb is that?
      • richard 6 mths ago
        If you repeat it enough (erupted into violence, etc), people will believe it.
    • Steve  •  6 mths ago
      Democrats in Congress cannot in good conscience join OWS because they are included in the 1%.
      • Doc 6 mths ago
        Sure they can because the 1% is not excluded - another thing concrete thinkers cannot compute. Ever hear some wealthy folks AGREEING that taxes NEED to be raised? (If not, you have no place in this discussion.)

        They only have to do it correctly. Which is to do it right and not try to pull some ham-fisted nonsense which is all-too-typical of Democrats and 'politicians' in general.
      • Sean Kennedy 6 mths ago
        Doc-It is your congressmen involved in insider trading and lobying that enslave you. By keeping YOU poor, they keep you dependent on government handouts.
      • Doc 6 mths ago
        Sean There's a LOT of people there. Not all of them are bad, certainly not all of them are good.

        Just as not ALL massive corporations are bad - it just takes a few to ruin it for everybody and that is part of the scene here.

        it would be so special if wingnuts could do "nuance" and understand there are great complexities here that Rush Limbaugh isn't going to put into your tiny noggins.
    • John  •  Center Moriches, United States  •  6 mths ago
      I think that the alignment is more than visible. The president has spoken many times of his support for the movement as has Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, David Duke, and most of the Mainstream Media. The media has claimed that this movement is a parallel to the Tea Party Movement. Why now is everyone seemingly distancing themselves from what they once proclaimed to be the American Way? Just when they seemed to be gaining momentum into the election season? Another left handed flip flop?
      • John 6 mths ago
        Remember we are Teabagger's and they are Pissbagger's
      • John 6 mths ago
        The Tea Party is a legitimate Movement whereas, OWS is more of a bowel movement.
      • John 6 mths ago
        OSW is the racist movement aligning themselves with the likes of David Duke.
    • Tom  •  Fresno, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Will obama invite some occupiers to the whitehouse for thanksgiving ? ? ?
      • Deborah 6 mths ago
        Only the registered to vote ones.
      • FREE SOUL 6 mths ago
        To smoke crack and play the victim!
      • Kryptik 6 mths ago
        ...or poop on the dining room table. (as a political statement, of course)
    • Michael  •  6 mths ago
      If the Democrats are uneasy about openly embracing their constituents, then maybe they should take a hard look at their platform. You reap what you sow.
      • william 6 mths ago
        ....thats because a lot of them dont really stand for much......as most dems are really publikan lites.........sorry, but seems to be the truth......
      • william 6 mths ago
        .....we cud really use a good third party, such as democratic/socialist party.......
      • Big Daddy Cols 6 mths ago
        yea,,,,and you could use a one way ticket to Cuba
    • Completely Satisfied  •  6 mths ago
      "These are our people."

      Nancy Pelosi
    • hillroller  •  6 mths ago
      Congress NEEDS Term Limits, Pay Reductions No more Free rides on the backs of the tax payers! They Should Be Governed and Abide by any and ALL Laws they Enact.
    • Doug  •  Shakopee, United States  •  6 mths ago
      We need to take away the loopholes that allow politicians to use their insider knowledge and influence to make millions, they need to focus on our needs. All their trading and investments should be frozen while they are in office. I'll bet most people would then get out of politics if it no longer served their purposes and enriched them. Pelosie and most politicians should be in jail. Like 60 minutes stated, what is an illegal organization in all America is completley legal in our Nations capitol. They are serving no interset but their own. Support the Occupy movement.
    • Common Sense  •  Pensacola, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Lets talk about some real issues. Lets talk about how Billions in stimulus money went to cronies of the White House and friends of the presidents last campaign. Lets talk about where those Billions went and why none of it was used to create jobs but instead went into the pockets of friends and campaign supporters. Come on CBS, NBC,ABC,CNN Major newspapers, step up, do your investigations, tell us where the money went. Act like Journalist. Please, act like real journalist. Remember what that was like?
    • Bow Before Obama  •  6 mths ago
      Obama has it wrong. I want to feel separated from the federal government. I dont want to feel like the federal government is breathing down my neck. Ill pay my taxes, but I want you, the federal government, to leave me the hell alone.
    • Pete  •  6 mths ago
      There is a vast difference between capitalism and CRONIE capitalism. Get a clue!
    • just sayin'  •  6 mths ago
      Who planted the minefield??? Hmmmmmm??????
    • George  •  Wappingers Falls, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Democrats own this movement and nothing the media does will change that. You can't have the President and Pelosi publicly support OWS and then hope it goes down the rabbit hole as they turn out to not be what the American appetite is looking for.
    • Doug  •  Fort Pierce, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Well, there's the problematic philosophy of the big government left from the horse's mouth:

      "I think people feel separated from their government," President Barack Obama told ABC News. "They feel that their institutions are not looking out for them."
    • Eric N  •  6 mths ago
      Although both Democrats and the Occupy protesters have similar views on economic inequality and corporate responsibility

      They do? haha thats news to me. Considering the Democrats have their hand in the pot just as much as they say republicans do.....or did you forget how 523 million tax dollars was stolen by the administration to solyndra?
    • sdfsdfadsf  •  6 mths ago
      If OWS had any clue at all , they would be protesting at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave as well as the Fed and Fannie / Freddie......Hello
    • Michael F  •  6 mths ago
      Obama took 4 times more money in campaign contributions from Goldman Sachs as McCain did.

      OWS protestors can plainly see what's been in front of their faces for years: Democrat politicians care about regular people in terms of lip service only.
    • Ajarn Sam  •  6 mths ago
      "Democrats see minefield in Occupy protests" Really? I have news for the Democrats the minefield in Occupy protests is not a minefield it is a free fire zone and the targets are your seats in congress and the senate.
    • Richard Gozinya  •  Albany, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Thud, thud the sound of democrats jumping off the OWS bandwagon that even Obama had jumped on.
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