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    Did Nostradamus Really Predict the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks?

    It's a story that began nearly a decade ago, circulated widely for months, and is still believed by many around the world: That the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Centers had been foretold by the famous sixteenth-century French writer Nostradamus. He wrote in ambiguous, nearly inscrutable sets of phrases called quatrains that believers claim predicted everything from the American Civil War to Hitler to John F. Kennedy's assassination.

    Those who believe in prophecy sift through reams of Nostradamus's vague writings trying to breathe new meaning into stale words. Here are a few of the Nostradamus prophecies that seemed to be eerily prophetic:

    "Two steel birds will fall from the sky on the Metropolis / The sky will burn at forty-five degrees latitude / Fire approaches the great new city / Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up / Within months, rivers will flow with blood / The undead will roam the earth for little time."

    It's easy to fit these words to the actual events of 9/11, and much was made of the second line, as New York City (the "Metropolis"), lies at about 40 degrees north latitude. To someone reading Nostradamus for the first time, one could be convinced that he might have predicted the tragedy. [How to Make Accurate Psychic Predictions]

    If you're familiar with the writings of Nostradamus, though, this particular prediction does not ring true: This writing is actually a hybrid of real Nostradamus verse and fiction, and whoever rewrote it was spectacularly sloppy. Not only is it not written in quatrain form (Nostradamus' typical writing style), but the phrase "two steel birds" is a obvious give away, as steel wasn't invented until 1854, nearly 200 years after Nostradamus died.

    Another suspect quatrain that surfaced after 9/11 reads: "In the city of God there will be a great thunder? / Two brothers torn apart by Chaos while the fortress endures? / The great leader will succumb / The third big war will begin when the big city is burning?- Nostradamus 1654."

    Given the fact that Nostradmaus died in 1566, 88 years before the quatrain was supposedly written, it seems a remarkable piece indeed. This was actually published on a Canadian website as part of an essay on how easily an important-sounding prophecy can be created using vague imagery. What began as an essentially skeptical piece explaining how prophecy can fool people eventually circulated as the real thing.

    There are plenty of fake Nostradamus prophecies about 9/11; what about any real ones? As Nostradamus scholar Peter Lemesurier notes in his book "Nostradamus, Bibliomancer: The Man, The Myth, The Truth" (2010, New Page), one quatrain (I.87) can be translated as, "Earth-shaking flames from the world's center roar / And make the earth around a 'New City' quiver." [How Accurate Are Punxsutawney Phil's Groundhogs Day Predictions?]

    Could the "earth-shaking flames" be the explosions from the Twin Towers? And might the "New City" mean New York? If you know nothing about Nostradamus it might seem plausible, but Lemesurier points out that the original phrase Nostradamus used for "New City," "cite neufve" "is much more likely to mean a town whose name means precisely that in Greek or Latin than merely any old city with 'new' in its name such as New York or New Orleans..." Furthermore Nostradamus explicitly states that the "earth-shaking flames" will not be from the sky but instead "from the world's center" (i.e., likely lava from a volcanic eruption). Lemesurier concludes, "Of New York or the 9/11 tragedy he is clearly saying nothing."

    Despite his legions of followers, a close analysis of Nostradmus's writings reveals that he did not make predictions (statements that come true after you read them) instead he makes post-dictions (statements that appear to come true only after the events happen). If Nostradamus truly predicted the September 11 attacks, the world should have know about them decades (or even centuries) before they occurred.

    This story was provided by Life's Little Mysteries, a sister site to LiveScience.

    Benjamin Radford is deputy editor of Skeptical Inquirer science magazine and author of Scientific Paranormal Investigation: How to Solve Unexplained Mysteries. His website is www.BenjaminRadford.com.

     

    63 comments

    • JordaneN  •  7 mths ago
      yes he did actually.

      The world's garden near the New City
      In the roadway, hollow mountains,
      They will be seized, and plunged into the sewers
      People will be forced to drink the sulphur-poisoned waters.

      This meant that the detruction of the Twin Towers would traumatize the poeple of the Us. There would be many long term effects of the tragedy, and it will poison realtions between the US and Islam.

      His prophecies are in another language so it has been translated.
    • Syner  •  8 mths ago
      This is in the science section? Better listed under the weird section.
    • DADH  •  8 mths ago
      To Funny! In sense he was making predictions based on the only thing that had true written history of the Future. The Holy Bible. There are more post and pre history written in the Bible than any other book.
      • Texas Tumbleweed 8 mths ago
        You obviously haven't read the Bible much. The "prophecies" in the Bible are every bit as vague as the ones by Nostradamus.
      • Digger 8 mths ago
        Zechariah 11:12-13:
        12 I told them, "If you think it best, give me my pay; but if not, keep it." So they paid me thirty pieces of silver.
        13 And the LORD said to me, "Throw it to the potter"-the handsome price at which they priced me! So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into the house of the LORD to the potter.
        Isaiah 50:6:
        I offered my back to those who beat me, my cheeks to those who pulled out my beard; I did not hide my face from mocking and spitting.
        Isaiah 53:4-6:
        4 Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
        5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.
        6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.
        Isaiah 53:12:
        Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
        The above was written 400 year before the birth of Jesus, who was betrayed for 30 pieces of siver, spat on, beaten, pierced in the side, executed between two criminals.

        Yes, there are a few prophesies which seem vague right now, but nearly every biblcal prophesy is crystal clear.
      • James 8 mths ago
        And the Bible has exactly what to do with this article??????
    • TTown  •  8 mths ago
      What a bag of bovine defecation.

      Nostradamus has two strikes against him, first he's french, second he's french. He put out a lot of vague obscure poetry, in french and people have been "finding" things ever since, after the fact. There is yet to be an actual event predicted from these writings.
    • Jo  •  8 mths ago
      NOSTRADAMUS WAS A FAG !
    • GawdDidIt!  •  8 mths ago
      Wow LiveScience. The whole article read, "Derp... derp derp... derpaderpitty.... therefore.. DERP."
    • Outback  •  8 mths ago
      To whom wrote this , Get your facts straight before you waste our time,::: Though steel had been produced by various inefficient methods long before the Renaissance, its use became more common after more-efficient production methods were devised in the 17th century. With the invention of the Bessemer process in the mid-19th century, steel became an inexpensive mass-produced material. Further refinements in the process, such as basic oxygen steelmaking (BOS), lowered the cost of production while increasing the quality of the metal. Renaissance was a cultural movement that spanned roughly the 14th to the 17th century ... 1854 my ass , Not saying he did or didnt predict anything, just saying get your facts right so youre not lieing to the world...
    • Risteard  •  8 mths ago
      This is NON SENSE.
    • Matthew  •  8 mths ago
      Question: Did Nostradamus Really Predict the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks?

      Answer: No.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  8 mths ago
      wow stupid people always see what they want to see. the end.
    • Make It To Break It  •  8 mths ago
      "as steel wasn't invented until 1854, nearly 200 years after Nostradamus died." wrong, it was around along time before that... it wasn't mass produced till 1854. Please people educate yourself and don't believe everything you read or hear from the news.
    • Tony Carbone  •  8 mths ago
      He predicted that I would have a big penis...

      Boy, was he wrong!
    • abhorrent behavior  •  8 mths ago
      I just pick a big bugger fron my right nostril, named it Jerry then stuck it on my computer screen....did he predict that?,
    • dan h  •  8 mths ago
      he didnt predict 911 but he did mention the king of terror, Junior Bush.
    • Black Hearted  •  8 mths ago
      The saying's of this man do touch upon future events and that was the purpose of his work. Now, many people will believe what they wish to consider truth and others will not. Sort of like the Bible....many read, go to church and think they have it all understood and will be ok! There are mystery's that are about to unfold and the great nation of America will be destroyed in one day. One third of America's east coast will be destroyed by quakes and water. Now many will not believe this but within 4 month's it comes and even then most will reflect and say...lucky guess!
      Sorry the signs are all there and the tail of the blue dragon is now being seen above the big dipper.
      Prepare for the worst to come soon and the world is headed into great distress and will be such as never before seen such destruction and death.
      Pray you are spiritual.
      • James 8 mths ago
        I predict, that I am not the only person reading your comment that thinks you are indeed a lunatic.
    • happyparent  •  8 mths ago
      I remember watching a documentary about Nostradamus in the 80s that interpreted some quatrains as talking about the new city being attacked from the sky from over the ocean. I believe it predicted that the attack would start the third (and final) world war. There was also mention of a man in a blue turban who would be the third and final evil dictator. The timing was supposed to be in the 90s, I believe. I'm not saying anything other than I distinctly remember watching a show which said these things. And, with the very general statements and non-specific timing, its not possible to do much about it anyway.
    • Cyber  •  8 mths ago
      Yahoo is fake. F Yahoo!. Steel has long been invented since the time of Conan the Barbarian.
      • Billy-Joe Bob 8 mths ago
        You do realize Conan the Barbarian was FICTION, right?????
    • Cyber  •  8 mths ago
      9/11 - the day America got #$%$ real good.
      • A Yahoo! User 8 mths ago
        Hey cyber...... #$%$
    • Kongfucius  •  8 mths ago
      I predict that the sun will always rise from the east every day no matter where you are.
    • Modine  •  8 mths ago
      Nostradamus's "predictions" are about as accurate as any horoscope or fortune teller. They are made up of lots of vague nonsense with no predictive power that people try to fit to events after the fact. The most remarkable part of such superstition is its believers simply ignore all the things that *didn't* come out as predicted or that could be interpreted in a number of different ways. It is a sad statement that in the 21st century that there should be any need to debunk Nostradamus (or fortune tellers or newspaper horoscopes, for that matter).
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