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    Earlier deals, longer hours woo Friday shoppers

    Big crowds on Black Friday can be both a blessing and a curse.

    Early signs point to bigger crowds at the nation's malls and stores as retailers like Target and Macy's opened their doors at midnight on the most anticipated shopping day of the year and a few others opened on Thanksgiving Day. Shoppers were mostly peaceful across the country, but a few violent incidents broke out as millions of shoppers rushed into stores and tensions flared.

    It started on Thanksgiving, when Los Angeles authorities say 20 people at a local Walmart store suffered minor injuries when a woman used pepper spray to gain a "competitive" shopping advantage shortly after the store opened.

    Then, early Friday in Fayetteville, N.C., gunfire erupted at Cross Creek Mall and police say they're looking for the two suspects involved. Separately, police say two women have been injured and a man charged after a fight broke out at an upstate New York Walmart. And a central Florida man is behind bars after a fight broke out at a jewelry counter in Walmart in Kissimmee, Fla.

    Later Friday morning, a Phoenix television station KSAZ reported that witnesses say police slammed a grandfather in a Walmart in Buckeye, Ariz., to the ground after he allegedly put a game in his waistband so that he could lift his grandson out of the crowd.

    The incidents are the result of two converging trends on Black Friday. The crowds continue to get bigger as retailers offer more incentives and longer hours. At the same time, shoppers are competing for a small group of products, instead of years past when there were several hot items from which they could choose.

    "The more the people, the more the occurrences," says Marshal Cohen, chief industry analyst with market research firm The NPD Group.

    Indeed, a record number of shoppers are expected to head out to stores across the country this weekend to take advantage of discounts of up to 70 percent. For three days starting on Black Friday, 152 million people are expected shop, up about 10 percent from last year, according to the National Retail Federation.

    "I came here for the deals," said Sidiki Traore, 59, from Roosevelt Island, N.Y. who was among about 10,000 people who were standing outside of Macy's store in New York's Herald Square for its midnight opening.

    The crowds are good news for retailers, many of which depend on the busy holiday shopping season for up to 40 percent of their annual revenue. To draw in shoppers this year, they pulled out of their bag of tricks. In addition to several retailers opening much earlier than previous years, some began offering to match the prices of competitors and rolling out layaway programs.

    Shoppers on Friday, though, say they mostly are being lured into stores by the deals, including discounts of 20 to 60 percent on many items at The Gap and a $400 Asus Transformer 10-inch tablet computer for $249.99 at Best Buy.

    After showing up at Best Buy in New York on Wednesday at 3 p.m., Emmanuel Merced, 27, and his brother were the first in line when it opened. On their list was a Sharp 42-inch TV for $199, a PlayStation 3 console with games for $199.99 and wireless headphones for $30. Merced says he likes camping out for Black Friday and he figures he saved 50 percent.

    "I like the experience of it," says Merced, who plans to spend $3,000 to $4,000 on gifts this season.

    To be sure, not every store was filled to the brim with people looking for deals on Black Friday. With so many major stores opening at midnight, crowds shopped early, staying up late to snag the best deals. That meant there was an unusual lull during the typically bustling pre-dawn hours when stores used to open their doors.

    At a Target on Chicago's north side, for instance, crowds were light four hours after the store opened. And door-buster deals, including the typically quick-to-sell out TVs and gaming systems, remained piled up in their boxes. Shoppers pushed carts through mostly empty aisles while thumbing through circulars and employees - some in Santa hats - roamed the store. There was no Christmas music — or any music — playing.

    Rebecca Carter, a graduate assistant, began Black Friday shopping at 11 p.m. on Thursday night and left Target around 4 a.m. carrying a bag full of pillows. Carter, who prowls Black Friday deals every year, said crowds were noticeably lighter this year as she and a friend picked up a television set ($180 for a 32-inch TV) and a laptop for $198, along with toys and pajamas.

    "It's quiet," she says. "There were all these televisions still there. It was shocking."

    It was the first year that Melody Snyder, 34 of Vancouver, Wash. had ventured out for Black Friday. She had braced herself for crowds and mayhem when she got to Walmart at 6 a.m. but was pleasantly surprised when she pulled in the parking lot. She found a number of gifts for her three kids but said she did find the store was sold out of a few of the big sale items, including certain Barbies and other toys she'd considered.

    "It was a little intimidating," she said. "Then I got here and thought 'Where is everyone?'"

    David Bassuk, managing director of retail at AlixPartners, a consultancy, says retailers are going to have to do a lot of discounting during the holiday shopping season to keep customers coming back.

    "Consumers have made it clear that they're only going to spend so much money, and the people who are going to get them to open their wallet first are going to win," he says. "This is a consumer who is smart and well informed but also cash-strapped and cautious."

    _____

    Retail writers Mae Anderson and Anne D'Innocenzio are in New York. Sarah Skidmore in Vancouver, Wash., Christina Rexrode in Cary, N.C., Ashley Heher in Chicago and Tamara Lush in St. Petersburg, Fla., contributed to this report.

     
    • Phil_T  •  Zurich, Switzerland  •  6 mths ago
      Best offer of the night: Buy nothing, go home and get some sleep! 100% DISCOUNT!
      • Mark S 6 mths ago
        thats not true xbox 360 slim and kinnect bundle 199
      • Christopher 6 mths ago
        I shop online and get better deals—forget about wasting sleep.
      • Level 6 TROLL© 6 mths ago
        there's something even better
        when you go home, turkey's in the oven!!
    • John d  •  Fort Lauderdale, United States  •  6 mths ago
      I don't get it. Where is all this money coming from to do all this shopping? With all the stories I'm hearing about more and more people being broke, unemployed, and beaten by the recession. Hopefully these shoppers aren't buying all this stuff with credit.
      • Chandra 6 mths ago
        It isn't-people are offered credit cards at 8% interest and blindly max them out. I have to admit that I love buying Christmas presents for others, but by no means will I EVER go out on black Friday and push and shove to get 10.00 off something that was marked up to begin with. To me, this is not Christmas. If you can't afford to get grandpa a 42" television set at regular price, you probably need to get him something you can afford. I have always done my Christmas shopping towards the second week of December, on many varying budgets, and still managed to bring joy to my family.
      • Good Morning 6 mths ago
        I totally agree. I don't get it. I'm broke. I have a job (Thank God), but I haven't had a raise in 2 yrs and my salary was cut. I'm struggling just to buy food & gas, the necessities. It's baffling to me where these people are getting money to shop.
      • wearywarrior 6 mths ago
        Credit cards at 8% interest? Holy cow, which bank or department store offers such wonders! I supposedly have good credit, but the interest rates I get are anywhere from 14% to as high as 20%.
    • Think4Self  •  Los Gatos, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Something unsettling about how throughout the years Christ-mass celebration has turned into a xmas stampede for commercial holidaze of massive greed and consumerism...
      Kinda miss the simpler less material world when giving gifts represented our love and a good bargain was being together and sharing the stuff money can't buy.
      • Depressed 6 mths ago
        americans are complete IDIOTS
      • Think4Self 6 mths ago
        nah, just a bit gullible and bedazzled... priorities and all. Nothing that reality can't fix.
      • Bob 6 mths ago
        Be anything but ordinary with this Someday by Justin Bieber 1.7 oz Eau de Parfum. Each bottle comes with a removable, crystal heart charm from Justin. What better way to carry his heart on your sleeve? Only $249.99
    • J R  •  Palmyra, United States  •  6 mths ago
      And a lot of these same people will be asking for help in Jan 2012 when their credit card bill comes in -
      $3000 -$4000 for Christmas gift? Crazy!
      • vote2012 6 mths ago
        Yep thay will want us to bail them out. The makings of a Wall street nut.
      • Katie 6 mths ago
        I have four kids and both my husbands and my families are quite large... I have NEVER spent that much on Christmas. EVER. And we are actually doing pretty well financially. My general budget is 1500.00 for everyone. Seriously shocking that people spend that much!
      • Any Mouse 6 mths ago
        We used to spend about $1,500 per family for our 3 kids and their children. We enjoyed spending the money because we would send things they couldn't afford. Some were toys, some were gift of tools, some were gift for the women that were things they would not buy for themselves because of their own expenses. Now we can't do that anymore for reasons I'm not posting here. But my youngest daughter said, "You did it when you could and that's the important part." Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays if you don't believe in Chrsitmas.
    • lby80  •  6 mths ago
      I find this sad. I love finding good deals, I'm very thrifty but it isn't about stuff and buying. There is too much stuff in the average American's life already.
      • Jesse 6 mths ago
        And most of it is probably exercise equipment.
      • abolishthefederalreserve. ... 6 mths ago
        motivated by fear & greed, conditioned by pepper spray monkey see monkey do
        this is just another scheme to distract us from what really needs our collective focus for bettering ourselves as society that nurtures a social existence
      • Make Shift Angel 6 mths ago
        Speak for yourself. I've been broke for years going to school and need more stuff.
    • Tony  •  Minneapolis, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Just goes to show you how hopeless the human population is. If people are willing to pepper spray and step over and hurt people over a bargain, what do you think they would do if we lived in a survival situation where resources are limited. shame shame shame.
    • 2012  •  Atlanta, United States  •  6 mths ago
      I wonder if the CEO at Walmart spent Thanksgiving with his family.
    • Doug C  •  6 mths ago
      Amazing how major corporations can control the habits of less intelligent people. Here, every year they get people to jam the stores like cattle, all for a bargain they give up their families and general care for fellow human beings.
    • LMHL  •  6 mths ago
      Totally Ridiculous......all of it. Why can't we all just ENJOY Thanksgiving without this stupid, stupid commericalism,. I have NEVER shopped Black Friday and never plan to. Actually, I HATE what Amnerica has come to. Boycott Black Friday and make your own Christmas gifts.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  Myrtle Beach, United States  •  6 mths ago
      idiots, you can find the same deals online
    • PackZilla  •  6 mths ago
      Thanks, retailers, for eroding the family a little more each year. What's on tap for next year? Black Thursday Morning? BTW, if you're making all this revenue in one day, how about Black 365?
    • totellthetruth  •  Overland Park, United States  •  6 mths ago
      As if Black Friday doesn't suck enough already, you have people like this. I really hope that they caught her stupid, greedy #$%$ on video and she is prosecuted for 1 count of battery for each person that was pepper sprayed. Nice Christmas spirit, you biotch!
    • Philip  •  6 mths ago
      I am tired just from online shopping...who actually goes out at midnight store to store?
    • JamesR  •  6 mths ago
      This is madness! Has the country gone nuts? All this over cheap, poorly made Chinese junk? America has turned into an insane asylum.
    • GrapefruitO  •  Louisville, United States  •  6 mths ago
      I stay home and relax with a hot cup of tea while the savages fight over a 3 dollar toaster!
    • steve  •  Wichita, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Tough time and this jerk thinking about a TV? what a ding dong.
    • Quiet One  •  6 mths ago
      Is anyone else sick of seeing that stupid broad on the Target commercial? I can't STAND her.
    • Reuben  •  Norwalk, United States  •  6 mths ago
      OMG! I slept in till 9 today and missed out on all the mayhem. My mama didn't raise no dummies.
    • fnord  •  6 mths ago
      I'm glad tomorrow is BUY NOTHING DAY. I get to spend it with loved ones and have quality time. None of this vomitous over-consumerism.
    • Emily  •  6 mths ago
      And so the holidays become about how violent you can be? Is it really worth it just for some sale item? Hey kids, I got you the must have toy, and guess what?! I gave somebody a black eye just to get it? Is that REALLY the spirit of peace on earth goodwill to men?!
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