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    EU countries divided on possible new finance tax

    WROCLAW, Poland (AP) โ€” European Union finance ministers are debating a tax on financial transactions that could raise money for the EU as well as make banks share the burden of bailouts, but strong resistance means the idea is scaling back from a global tax to just a European one.

    Discussions Saturday in Wroclaw, Poland, showed the ministers were far from an agreement. Opponents of the EU-only approach warned that such a tax will only work if imposed globally, because otherwise banks will simply move transactions to places with no tax.

    "There isn't a consensus," said EU Internal Market Commissioner Michel Barnier. "There is no common position on this idea, no agreement in the EU. We are only starting the debate."

    Supporters say the tax, which would take a tiny slice of a large number of financial dealings, could help make banks repay governments for some of massive amounts spent bailing them out during the 2007-2009 financial crisis, and could also reduce the disconcerting volatility on financial markets since the crisis.

    The European Commission will present a proposal next month for a tax. France and Germany back the plan but Britain is strongly opposed because London is a large banking center. The U.S. also against the idea, meaning the EU will have to decide if it wants to go it alone or even shrink the proposal to just the 17-nation eurozone.

    There is also deep debate over who would get the money โ€” national governments or the EU in Brussels โ€” and any proposal would have to get past member states and the European Parliament. The Commission proposals assume the tax could generate euro30 billion ($41 billion) a year for the EU budget, relieving contributions from its 27 member states, while governments such as Germany think the money should head to their coffers.

    The Commission proposal will lay out a minimum rate, with the revenue going to Brussels while countries could impose a higher rate and keep the difference. It is not clear, however, how popular that will be when many Europeans begrudge Brussels for its lack of cost-cutting in austere times.

    Also undefined is what possible transactions it could apply to: stocks, foreign exchange, and derivatives are among the possibilities.

    Germany's Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble, a supporter of the tax, said he was "not so pessimistic" about overcoming opposition.

    "Ideas are beginning to shift," he said.

    Schaeuble said collecting the revenue was not just about making banks pay but would also "decelerate the irrational exaggeration in the markets."

    Belgian Finance Minister Didier Reynders indicated that supporters did not make much headway at the meeting but would raise the issue again at next week's meetings of the International Monetary Fund and the Group of 20 rich and developing countries in Washington, DC.

    "We tried to put this on the table yesterday and today and it's more difficult, I must confess," Reynders said Saturday.

    He said if a tax can't be imposed in all 27 EU member countries, then it could be discussed for the 17 that use the euro โ€” a group doesn't include Britain.

    "I am sure it's possible to start it in the 17," Reynders said.

     

    11 comments

    • Michael Bindner  •  8 mths ago
      Interesting. They won't go through with this unless the U.S. does too - but if they are likely to, the US may jump on the bandwagon (since a major reason we don't is because fear that they won't either). This may be yet another reason for people to abandon the financial system and get lines of credit and mortgages through employee-owned firms.
    • Yuri Chenzenko  •  8 mths ago
      it is time for eu to go back to an old system ... it seem the whole thing about euro, european union does not seem to be working out.
    • DireStraits  •  8 mths ago
      UN and NWO scam to take money from people.
    • Rabid Dog  •  8 mths ago
      Maybe there should be a Tax on STUPID!!!!!
    • franz  •  8 mths ago
      when are they finally going to get rid of that socialist EU. EU=stupidest idea europe ever had
    • anthony  •  8 mths ago
      This is no surprize, the UN is running out of money. This is all part of the UN scam, america funds the biggest portion and with us broke it's unlikely the congress will keep apropriating big money to it, so they have the EU come up with a taxation and suggest US do the same. The UN is already demanding all countrys impose a global warming tax, all except the so called developing countrys of course which includes China. The UN cant fund itself so expect alot of new taxes and EU creating the model and the so called need to repair it's financial system when all along as is in the US the central banks is the problem and with all powerful and in control of all the wealth and regulatory control of fixing the interest rates and markets were all done for, we'll be funding nothing but wars forever in the name or peace on any country we deam a threat even if they try to better themselves in an ever changing world with nuclear power. Ron Paul has predicted all this as far back as 1988 and he's considered extreme and a crackpot, yet even CNN has admitted he was right all along while the fed reserve, treasury and econimist have been saying theres nothing wrong. Ron Paul 2012 or kiss our #$%$ goodby.
    • D  •  8 mths ago
      Other than the high frequency traders I don't think so. It's not quite as bad an idea as a VAT (which hurt local small business and makes it less competitive with the rest of world), but the net effect would be to raise investment fees for mutual funds and the like. And a lot of the money in those funds is the ordinary worker trying to save for retirement. About the only thing I'd support is a tax that would only hit daytraders and beyond (ie. high frequency traders).
      • James Andrews 8 mths ago
        Thereis NO SUCH THING as a "value added " tax-any tax on any product or service DIMINISHES the value of that product or service-that's simple economics 101. Idiots believe in this crap. Governments getting too big, and printing too much paper money, are what has caused 95% of the troubles the world is now facing. Downsize them ALL, including our own-only then will things slowly begin to improve. The government can't FIX the edconomic problems, because THEY are the problem.
    • Josephine Saba  •  8 mths ago
      the only way a tax like that will work in US is for US to collect and use it - but congress and barry have shown themselves to be spendthrifts

      and therefore we the people are very leary of these liars and thieves
    • JimC  •  8 mths ago
      This is a marvelous idea and should be implemented here in the US. If I buy a loaf of bread I pay sales tax, why shouldn't I pay sales tax when I buy part of the company that makes the bread? In addition to the revenue and the simple equity of the idea, it will help stabilize the stock markets by making it more expensive to day trade and react to rumors.
      • DireStraits 8 mths ago
        You are stuck on stupid, Daffy Duck Jim C. Does the C stand for a part of the female anatomy?
    • John  •  8 mths ago
      It is time for a revolt!!!!!!! Let the banks fail, get rid of the bad managers, it should be survival of the fittest.
    • Wayne  •  8 mths ago
      If Europeans want to choke economic growth, that will do it.
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