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    Eurozone set for Greek deal, temporary default

    BRUSSELS (AP) — European leaders were poised to sign off on a second bailout for Greece on Thursday, even at the cost of making the country the first euro state to partially default on its debt.

    With the new rescue program, leaders want to "address the problems really at the root," by lightening the country's debt burden and restoring its economic competitiveness, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said as she arrived at an emergency summit in Brussels.

    That will include getting private creditors to contribute to new aid, a move that would put Greece in so-called "selective default," a partial renege on its debt deals.

    Economists worry that a default, even if only temporary, could rock markets if not accompanied by substantial new financial support from the eurozone and a significant decrease in Greece's debt burden.

    Dutch finance minister Jan Kees de Jager said objections "to avoid a selective default ... have been swept from the table." Speaking to lawmakers in The Hague, de Jager said the plan for Greece would "do something for the debt duration and also lower the debt burden."

    The admission that a default was likely caused a slump in the euro, which by early afternoon was down 0.8 percent at $1.4150, having traded near $1.43 earlier in the day.

    After being granted €110 billion ($156 billion) in rescue loans last year, Greece needs tens of billions more as its economy continues to struggle and it can't raise money on international markets.

    Few economists believe that even with more support, Greece will be able to repay its debt — some €340 billion ($483 billion) — without some kind of cut to the overall value.

    However, so far the eurozone has ruled out forced haircuts on Greece's debt, fearing that it would heighten panic on financial markets and destabilize larger economies like Italy or Spain.

    Instead, the 17-country currency union has been working on an alternative support plan that will see banks and other private investors give Greece more time to repay its bonds, while the eurozone and the IMF will continue to prop up the country with rescue loans.

    Those loans should come under conditions that bailed out countries can actually afford, said Austrian Chancellor Werner Faymann, implying that EU and IMF rescue loans will likely get lower interest rates and longer maturities.

    But rating agencies have warned for weeks that any form of private sector involvement in a bailout, even if voluntary and without a haircut, would be seen as a "selective default" — a rating that has never been held by a country while in the eurozone.

    Luxembourg Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker said Thursday that he could not exclude that a Greek deal will trigger such a rating, although everything should be done to avoid it.

    A "selective default" rating implies that terms of a bond, such as the repayment deadline or interest rate, have been altered. It falls short off an outright "default" rating, which is usually triggered when the borrowing country or company doesn't pay back the whole amount it owes.

    However, even a temporary "selective default" rating complicates the eurozone's efforts to save Greece, because the European Central Bank has threatened to no longer accept bonds with such a rating as collateral for its liquidity support. That would freeze out Greek banks, which rely on the ECB for their survival, and will likely require the eurozone to come up with alternative solutions to prop up the country.

    For a few days this week, the eurozone had hoped that it could stay clear of a selective default rating by instead recouping some of the money they spend on new loans for Greece through a tax on financial institutions. Yet that plan, strongly opposed by banks that don't hold Greek bonds, did not survive last-ditch talks between Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy Wednesday night.

    "I have the impression that there is no agreement on a banking tax," said Juncker, who as the chairman of the Eurogroup is also one of the main spokesmen for the currency union.

    Merkel said she and Sarkozy had listened closely to the concerns of European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet, who joined them for part of their meeting Wednesday night in Berlin.

    While Austria's Faymann and Belgian Prime Minister Yves Leterme expressed hope that a deal based on the Franco-German position could be found Thursday, some countries appeared reluctant to sign off just yet.

    The Franco-German position does not include specific figures on the value of private sector involvement, said a eurozone official, and therefore countries including the Netherlands and Finland are not yet ready to give their approval. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because discussions between leaders had just started.

    ___

    Toby Sterling in Amsterdam contributed to this report.

     

    80 comments

    • really  •  10 mths ago
      We are ALL in the same proverbial boat. That includes the US. The events on the horizon are going to cause a MAJOR decline in the standard of living that we ALL take for granted. We are in no better shape than the Greeks, as a matter of fact, the US is actually in WORSE shape because our numbers have been manipulated show as to NOT reflect the true state of trouble we are really in.
      • really 10 mths ago
        **correction** mean't to say so instead of show...sorry!
      • really 10 mths ago
        AND...part of the problem is the division we place ourselves in by aligning ourselves with one party or another...a distraction of mega proportions...neither "party" is going to save us. It shouldn't be about right or left when the stakes are so high...it should be about what is going to benefit the survival of all of us. Bickering back and forth about "party this and party that" is such a moot point and is actually pointless. DIVIDED WE FALL. So I guess we will all fall together no matter which side of the fence we are deceived from.
      • Kyle 10 mths ago
        We are in a better position than Greece. Our economy is still the #1 economy in the world which means we have the ability to withstand a much higher debt burden. You are right though, we need to be fixing the problem, not playing politics and deluding ourselves that major change is needed.
    • Joey Biden  •  10 mths ago
      "temporary default".....it's like being "a little bit pregnant"
      • DevManiac 10 mths ago
        or "temporarily insane"
      • A Yahoo! User 10 mths ago
        it's temp because the IMF isn't positive they will have all that cash from the US. but they know they will get it.
    • Iconoblaster  •  10 mths ago
      Governments shouldn't be borrowing money, at all, in the normal course of things. Except in circumstances of unanticipated emergency, such as invasion or natural disaster, governments should not be permitted to spend more money than they receive in taxes.
    • Mike  •  10 mths ago
      An objective look at the structure of the Greek state....socialist type government programs, communist labor unions, anti-free enterprise government regulations, large numbers of people dependent on the state...would bode well for the American electorate.
      but I fear that our media doesn't want t touch this subject..
      • Marco 10 mths ago
        Maybe Obama should move ot Greece?
      • marlo 10 mths ago
        the germans have unions government programs ectera ..but they also have folks that work and produce more than hotelbeds and olives ...stop the its the socialist ..bull shit america defaulted in 2008 you had republicans on than were did your free market take you not further than greece
      • Pat O 10 mths ago
        Just because Bush talked of a free market doesn't mean he followed through. He's no different than Obama. The corporate tax rates and regulations aren't nearly as high in Germany. So, yes, it is the socialists.
    • George  •  10 mths ago
      It doesn't make sense to pay debt with more debt!! What in the hell are they doing?!?!?
      • accountant retired 10 mths ago
        they have no options. pay debt with the national parks? they don't have them like we do.
    • bludog  •  10 mths ago
      They can't stop the inevitable. The house of cards is about to collapse. It's only common sense. You can't promise the people what you can't pay for. Seems we won't learn that lesson either.
    • pH of 7  •  10 mths ago
      the root cause is that they borrowed too much, not that they owe too much. letting them off the hook for what they owe will encourage them to keep doing it.
      • A Yahoo! User 10 mths ago
        Just like the USA
    • Eric C  •  10 mths ago
      Default is the only way to get leftists to come to grip with reality.
    • Greg  •  10 mths ago
      Anyone stupid enough to own Greek debt deserve default. The "private" sector has had years to dump its bad debt.
    • Spiffster  •  10 mths ago
      Greece needs to default to get out of it's mess. It will hammer a few corrupt banks and overpaid execs. but so what? It's time for them to pay up.
    • Gary  •  10 mths ago
      Stupid is as stupid does.
    • Harold  •  10 mths ago
      let grrece default, quit making excuses for there own failures, how else will a liberal learn unless they are completely beaten to thee knees, and then kicked three or four times,
    • Cult O'Personality  •  10 mths ago
      Greek-debt today: Obama-debt tomorrow.
    • DaveyJones  •  10 mths ago
      FUNNY! The Countries where people actually WORK for a living are bailing out those that don't. ......... sounds like America!
    • Taz  •  10 mths ago
      America is next...
    • Pat O  •  10 mths ago
      Take a look at our future. Only there will be nobody to bail us out.
    • Black Bart  •  10 mths ago
      Take notes, Congress and Mr. Presidente. Many of you favour the European socialistic social, political, and economic system; This Greek situation can give you some good material for excuses when you face a similar problem soon.
    • Ralph Turchiano  •  10 mths ago
      WOW, I thinks the IMF and the EU have a bad case of Munchausen by proxy syndrome. Someone get Greece away from those freaks... How many times in one year, can the IMF cause this financial disease, and then market the cure?
    • Andualem  •  10 mths ago
      ''Temporary defualt... is like getting little bit pregnant'' can 'safe abortion' save it?
    • koli  •  10 mths ago
      Ja, Ja , Ja... now the big guyxs are paying for their greed! Love them Greeks, and Mr Davey Jones, please before you jump on these people see how they were sucked into these scam called the EU...
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