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    'Like' Facebook stock? Experts weigh in on IPO

    Facebook's much-hyped initial public offering promises to be an exciting spectacle when the social media giant goes public this spring. But should you update your status to "shareholder"?

    The potential rewards from this $5 billion IPO are big, but so are the risks.

    Some numbers that came out in Facebook's filing late Wednesday were impressive: a $1 billion profit in 2011, $3.7 billion in revenue, 845 million users. What's still unknown: the initial stock price that connected buyers will be able to get, not to mention what shares will cost by the time average investors get a chance to buy shares.

    A roundup of opinions from fund managers and other investment professionals on just how good an investment Facebook might be:

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    "The key question is what will the (stock's) valuation be. We'll find out in the road show. If they're making $1 billion a year, I'm not excited about paying 100 times earnings. This is an Internet company. It's not Apple selling 100 million iPhones."

    — Barry Ritholtz, CEO of research firm FusionIQ, New York.

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    "Facebook can be a great company, but that doesn't mean its stock won't underperform. Trying to pick out successful IPOs — that's stock-picking on steroids. It's definitely a gamble, and Main Street investors should stay as far away as possible."

    — Mark Matson, CEO of Mason, Ohio-based money management firm Matson Money.

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    "They're nicely profitable at a few billion in revenue. It probably means they will be obscenely profitable once they get to $10 and $20 billion."

    — Kevin Landis, chief investment officer of Firsthand Capital Management, San Jose, Calif., whose funds have a substantial Facebook stake.

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    "Facebook is competing with some extremely deep-pocketed companies like Google and has a relatively inexperienced management team. It's a high-risk, speculative investment that I'm afraid Mom and Pop are going to put significant sums into. There are going to be thousands of advisers who lose a lot of money on Facebook."

    — Andrew Stoltmann, Chicago-based securities lawyer and investor advocate.

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    "The real money in IPOs is made by the people who are buying stock privately, then selling it in the market and pocketing the difference. The average investor can't get access to that. You need luck on your side. You could be left holding the bag after you buy high."

    — Rob Russell, president of Dayton, Ohio-based money management firm Russell & Company.

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    "The business model's not fully developed yet. Nevertheless, it looks a lot more profitable than I anticipated. With a 48 percent operating margin, that's about double the profitability of Google when it went public. If it comes out at $35 or $40 a share, I think that's reasonable price.

    — Tom Vandeventer, managing director of Tocqueville Opportunity Fund, New York.

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    "If you can own the stock for an intermediate term, I suspect you will make money. Remember, when Google went public, the stock was valued at roughly $27 billion in 2003. It reached almost $200 billion by 2007. With Facebook, you have a very high growth, early stage company that has a profitability model that will be very similar to Google's."

    — Christopher Baggini, senior portfolio manager, Turner Titan mutual fund, Berwyn, Pa.

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    "I believe there's a group that will buy this stock no matter how it's priced. There's a group — hedge funds or other large investors — that will buy all the social media issues because they don't know which one will be the next Google. Looking back on the Internet days of the '90s, one Google will pay for 100 Pet.coms."

    — Jack Ablin, chief investment officer at Harris Private Bank, Chicago.

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    "This filing implies Facebook is valued at $100 billion, which I think is too high. That's about 27 times more than their 2011 revenue. But even assuming they can double revenue this year, I think it's too high. It's reminiscent of the valuations for stocks in the Internet 1.0 days."

    — Karsten Weide, analyst with technology research firm IDC, San Mateo, Calif.

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    "The retail investor should be really skeptical of purchasing into the hype. Longer term, if investors are looking to hold it for many, many years, there's a great opportunity. But in the short term, there's a high level of risk that they could purchase on one of the spikes and get punished."

    — Gareth Feighery, CEO of MarketTamer.com, a stock and options training website.

     

    15 comments

    • Greg  •  3 mths ago
      they're just trying to cash in before it all becomes totally passe..
    • EricG  •  3 mths ago
      No mention here that Google Plus has nearly 90 million active users in just its first months! With Facebook constantly changing its appearance and privacy issues, Google is a genuine threat. It took Facebook YEARS to see 90 million members, not months. Buyer beware!
    • Shortstmp  •  3 mths ago
      Remember MySpace? Short it 1 hour after trading opens.
      • Greener 3 mths ago
        Shortsmp. your comment sounds very salient and informed, so please forgive my ignorance, but could you explain what you mean by "short it 1 hour after trading opens". Thanks in advance for clarification,,,,,
    • Mir C  •  New York, New York  •  3 mths ago
      The average investor can not and will not profit off this IPO. First off, they need to buy the stocks privately for a low price and flip it for $40-$50 when it becomes public. It's a gamble.
      • rosie 3 mths ago
        I believe that facebook should give all members a good about of money help his customer pay their bill before doing what he did, because without our information facebook could not come this way now he the one who is making the money!!!!!!!!!!!???????
    • Greg  •  3 mths ago
      wheres the "dont care " button??
    • Michael_Vicksdog  •  3 mths ago
      The only thing this is going to do is make the private investors rich when they dump their stock off the bat.
    • William S  •  Las Vegas, Nevada  •  3 mths ago
      Facebook ain't no Google. Its a 100% flop!
      • Mir C 3 mths ago
        exactamundo
    • Rick  •  New Berlin, Wisconsin  •  3 mths ago
      Anyone touting this stock is trying the old "pump and dump" strategy...FB is done in 5 years...maybe less.
    • A still small voice  •  Deforest, Wisconsin  •  3 mths ago
      Facebook's mystique is fading among young people......its like an aging motel: time to sell it to someone else to manage.
    • koko  •  3 mths ago
      The execs making their last BIG windfall before it tanks. Talk about a ponzi scheme.
    • Stir the pot  •  3 mths ago
      The key phrase- "what shares will cost by the time average investors get a chance to buy them." The market makers get to buy at ground level. After the price is goes higher, the average investors are allowed in, driving the price higher yet. Then the market makers take their profit, causing the bottom to fall out. As the price plummets, there are no buyers. The market makers cash in and the average investor gets taken to the cleaners. IPO's often can be a game to make the rich richer.
    • Greg  •  Austin, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      Look what happened to other social media site like myspace. Zucker is very young...everyone is very young. They have already lost subscribers due to privacy issues. Their will be "something" after facebook. There is always something else. Probably more niche social media sites as everyone tires of the facebook experience....which is life and inch deep and a mile wide.
    • GM1258  •  3 mths ago
      Just think if they had reverse merged into a penny or micro-cap shell stock of some sort.
      LFZA did this a few years back.
      They went from .0008 per share to .83 cents in a few days.
      I picked up 500k shares of this at .002 and sold at .68 -
      Reverse mergers are the only way to go in the stock market.
      The rest of it's all rigged.
    • me  •  3 mths ago
      I have a one-word warning for those thinking of buying this thing on day one.

      MySpace
    • Steve  •  Jersey City, New Jersey  •  3 mths ago
      I may go on Facebook once or twice a day but it is usually for a second or two. I have a few pictures of mine posted but that's about it. However, if I can own it for about $40-$50 a share, I will get a few hundred. If it is over $100 as soon as it starts trading, I will not touch it. I bought that crap NYMEX on its first day for $140. I sold about two years later for half that when it was bought out. The funny thing was that I bought at the high of the day. It may have gone up another dollar or two but it was straight down after that. Live and learn.
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