What the FBI's Solyndra raid means: 3 theories

"Until that time the gov can do nothing to create wealth as jobs or in any other form. "

Huh. See, the Chinese Solar firms are doing well because the Chinese government gave them free land and really, really low interest loans. The American firms were better at technology but couldn't outspend China. So the idea that the government can't create jobs is a FAIL.

If we'd backed Solyndra as hard as the Chinese back their companies it would have been an even fight.

"a mass conversion to solar energy will result in higher electric bills for everyone. there is no energy saving device that saves consumers money. the less energy we use the more we pay per unit. we can't afford to save energy. "

Dude, your math is weak. LED's save energy and money. Solar Panels pay back in a few years and so does geothermal.

The Federal fuel tax is 19 cents per gallon, more or less. Cutting use and improving gas mileage to save 50% would save $1.85 per gallon. The road tax could be adjusted easily and still leave savings.

a mass conversion to solar energy will result in higher electric bills for everyone. there is no energy saving device that saves consumers money. the less energy we use the more we pay per unit. we can't afford to save energy. for example: the federal mandate to increase the nation's mpg to 35.5 from current 23 [ approx. ] will not save moterests money. why ? because the states and feds maintain our highway system by taxing fuel by the gallon purchased. if we cut our use by 50%, tax revenues will decrease by 50%. you simply cannot maintain the roads on that reduced amount. therefore, the road tax will increase by 50%. net savings to the consumer O . SO IT GOES FOR NATURAL GAS, ELECTRIC, WATER. WE SAVE EVERYTHING BUT MONEY AND THAT'S IN SHORT SUPPLY FOR MOST AMERICANS.

With Eric Holder running the show, I can all but guarantee no prosecutions, no ties to Kaiser, more of OUR money spent "investigating" that'll result in zero results.

Holder will make sure any seized document with any of Obama's boys names on them will get blacked out, "classified" and/or shredded. Rose Law firm anyone?

Same thing happened with Evergreen Solar - Massachusetts gave them $56 million dollars right before they moved to China.

We'd get better ROI if we burned the money for heat.

why investigate? a business becoming insolvent after receiving soooooo much money and doing so in such a short period of time? loan guaranteed by us? if were paying for anything, I want to pay to recover all the 500,000,000 back

The FBI raided Solyndra for one reason and one reason only: they seized documents that are needed to proceed with bankruptcy proceedings to ensure that the US Government is first in line as a creditor. No one will be prosecuted, no one will be arrested and the $500 million that Solyndra got from Obama- minus his commission of course- is gone! How's that "change" grabbing you now? Does it make you feel better to know that the corruption is green-oriented? I didn't think so.

"FBI Agent" is now classified as a 'green job'.

the week still hauling obama's water for him.if this was bush the story would have blood dripping from their fangs as they scream its all his fault.

The difference between China in the terrestrial solar business [based as it is in thin film microelectronic technology] and the US which has not been competitive or a decade in that realm, is obviously not a matter of demand but market competitiveness. The Solyndra debacle [as with two other US terrestrial solar companies that went belly up this years] shows us the importance of providing appropriate products in competitive markets as the real job generators. When they are economically feasible, no one will need gov to define them or make them real. Until that time the gov can do nothing to create wealth as jobs or in any other form. The time will come when the Global Economy has squeezed all the US govs funny-money and the worthless equity left over as a result of the "real Estate Bubble" out of its stores. When currency and credit in circulation measures the actual wealth existent, then the economy will expand. Not until then.

four more years Obama the hell with the nay sayers word up

Write Congress. Demand separation of business and gov.

Owebama and Solar Kickbacks = Impeachment.

Investigation is being expanded to execs homes and computers. Is the FBI investigating for wrong-doing or is it acting to exponge the record of any of Mr. Obama's dealings? Naturally no one can talk and it'll be that way for an indeterminant time, say till after the next election.

Nothing ever changes in Washington, bussiness as usual.

Eric Holder friend of the politicians and the corrupt!!!!!The FIX IS in!!

If nothing is done, no investigation, no questions, nothing then we know that our country in in the wrong hands of the wrong people, including Obama!

Zeax thinks that theft has occurred in the Solynfra deal. I am certain that all the legal docs allow Solyndra their loan guarantee even though any real and sensible business man or venture capitalist would never have invested in that scheme. Mr Obama granted a 1/2 trillion loan guarantee backed up with your money on poor business facts and ethics. Reason enough to divorce business constitutionally from government. There was theft indeed, it occurred when the gov took your money by force and gave it to someone else.

Apologist for radical corp socialism and the current administration yelp about early Iraq procurements in comparison to the Solyndra caper. That corp welfare exists and has been alive and well or decades is admitted by nearly everyone. What we need is separation o Business and State. It might happen eventually.
The point being argued on this thread is the way in which it is contracted. In the Halliburton case, what was contracted or was in fact delivered [more or less]. In the Solyndra case it wasn't and is increasingly looking as if it could not have been. The former is questionable expenditure of gov't funds at a time when competitive bidding wasn't feasible AND likely their were no secure competitors ready to act immediately. In the latter case it was business malfeasance supported with gov [TAX] money. Very significant difference ethically and probably legally.

Cant have Obama Blackmailed if he is connected. Multinational corporation Welfare system at it best. Both Parties get suckered by these Guys. Hope people look at the Multinational Corporation shell games in Tax ,Trade and regulation laws. That where the truth hidden.

I dont believe that this was an intentional scam or corruption, but I do believe its a great case study as to why the Gov needs to stay out of business, and let the free market function.

Obviously this company didnt have a solid, marketable product and efforts by the Gov to reach in and artificially stimulate markets (like Green Energy or Auto or Housing industry) are unrealistic. If there isnt real demand for a product, its doomed to fail.

What it says is simply that Crony Capitalism is a failure at taxpayer expense. Just like children can not buy friends the POTUS can not buy success.