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    How to fix Social Security confounds Fla. retirees

    THE VILLAGES, Fla. (AP) — It's an urgent issue seemingly on the minds of many in this retiree mecca, if not the entire state of Florida — how to fix Social Security. And voters' proposed solutions to the tricky problem are just as varied as the stances of the Republican presidential candidates seeking their support.

    Jim Minucci, 76, backs Mitt Romney and his idea to gradually raise the age of eligibility for younger workers. "If we continue to spend and take money from Social Security, I think in the long run it's going to be hurting," Minucci said as he walked through a town square here to meet his wife for lunch.

    But Bill LeBeau argues that retirees should get more to keep up with inflation and likes Newt Gingrich's call for creating private investment accounts for younger workers. "That would be really good," said LeBeau, 89, as he held a cigar while sitting in a golf cart adorned with an American flag and a "God Bless America" bumper sticker.

    On this recent day at least, there seemed to be little discussion here, in Florida's largest retirement community, about former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum's pitch even though it's the most aggressive position of any of the Republican presidential candidates. He wants to lower benefits for wealthier retirees, raise the age to qualify for full benefits and restrict inflation increases in benefits.

    "We need to change benefits for everybody now," says Santorum, who campaigned in this area this week. "We can't wait 10 years."

    For decades, the idea of tinkering with the retirement safety net was taboo for politicians. That was especially true in Florida, which has the highest proportion of people age 65 or over, its 2.8 million seniors second only to California. But with the skyrocketing costs of entitlement programs boosting the nation's debt, the Republican candidates are advocating for changes they say will ensure future retirees can draw benefits.

    Of the GOP front-runners, Romney wants to preserve benefits for people 55 and over but would, for the next generations of retirees, raise the retirement age for full benefits one or two years. The former Massachusetts governor also wants to reduce inflation increases in benefits for wealthier recipients.

    Gingrich, the former House speaker, supports giving younger workers the option of diverting Social Security taxes to private retirement accounts. Employers would still pay their share to the federal government, which would protect private account holders in the event of a huge drop in stock markets.

    President Barack Obama, who is seeking re-election, hasn't proposed any changes in current or future benefits and has instead called for a bipartisan look at how to strengthen the program. He supported the $250 payment to Social Security recipients in the 2009 federal stimulus package and has called for a second $250 payment to beneficiaries.

    The issue is all but certain to be a major one in Florida, both in the GOP primary on Jan. 31 and in the general election. An estimated 31 percent of people who voted in Florida's general election in 2010 were 65 or older, and they voted at a higher rate than any other age group. Seniors made up 33 percent of voters in the 2008 GOP primary, the highest share of any state with a GOP exit poll that year.

    In September, a Quinnipiac University poll found that registered Republicans in Florida generally hold a more positive than negative view of Social Security, but they do support some changes to the system to keep it solvent.

    A majority (53 percent) would favor increasing the age to qualify for benefits, a proposal opposed by most Democrats and independents, and 6 in 10 support raising the income cap for Social Security taxes in order to increase the amount of money coming into the Social Security system. Majorities oppose reducing benefits for current (84 percent) or future (55 percent) retirees in order to increase funding for the system.

    Here in The Villages, retirement is a way of life. So is collecting Social Security and, it seems, the fear of losing it.

    "We're afraid that it's going to be cut or that we're going to lose what we put into it," said John Turek, 62, of Council Bluffs, Iowa.

    In this community of 75,000 people, golf carts are as common as cars and hundreds of residents gather each night for live music, line dancing and two-for-one drinks in a town square surrounded by a movie theater, church and restaurants.

    Voters here tend to be conservative. And, judging from a series of interviews this month with residents, there's a palpable worry among residents about the growing national debt, budget-busting entitlement programs and whether Social Security will be around as a safety net for their children and grandchildren.

    "It's going to affect other generations," said Dolly Boudreaux, 70, of Lady Lake. "I'm not against paying a little more in taxes. I don't want to pay a lot more in taxes, but if that will help my children and grandchildren, I could go for that."

    ___

    Associated Press Deputy Polling Director Jennifer Agiesta contributed to this report.

     
    • Repairman Dave  •  4 mths ago
      Make our leaders use SS as their retirement only. It will be fixed shortly!
      • Tom 4 mths ago
        and Medicare as their health insurance.
      • conan 2 4 mths ago
        Neut says Employers would still pay their share to the federal government,

        {then the federal could only destroy half of your retirement money}
      • BillM 4 mths ago
        Repairman Dave and Tom - AMEN
    • Betty  •  Beckley, West Virginia  •  4 mths ago
      Want to fix Social Security and other Government Run Programs? Keep the #$%$ Politicians hands out of the funds stop pork barreling.The monies should be secured for that use only!Bill M.
      • Joe 4 mths ago
        No money has been taken. Not a penny. Money has been borrowed, which is not a bad idea.
      • Frank 4 mths ago
        Joe your brain dead.Your just the kind of people washington loves.Anything they say you believe.And if it was true they have no right to borrow from another account thats for a specific thing,leave it alone.
      • Meca-leca-hi-meca-hiney-h ... 4 mths ago
        How about we start a phoney war, and then not pay for it. That way we can rid ourselves of the money robbing retiree programs in the name of balancing our budget.
    • JAN  •  Tampa, Florida  •  4 mths ago
      if you raise thr retirement wage -just where are elderly going to get a job when theirs is outsourced to China???and where in hell and who in hell is going to hire a over 55 person?????????
      • Steve 4 mths ago
        How many people have been "forced" asked to retire early by the JOB Creators?
      • SHIRLEY 4 mths ago
        Also, if the age is raised then wouldn't workers keep their jobs longer and reduce the availability of job openings by means of attrition for incoming and younger members of the employable?
      • FrankP 4 mths ago
        It is now illegal to ask a person's age on a job application. HOWEVER, it seems to be perfectly legal to ask the year you graduated High School. #$%$
    • Lee  •  4 mths ago
      fix social security? thats easy ,,,stop politicians from stealing from the fund....whats so had to understand?
      • Emilyrose3rd 4 mths ago
        Exactly! Read my comment in back of yours!
      • Lee 4 mths ago
        i just did,, you called it ,,i agree
      • weesie 4 mths ago
        Yes, the feds owe 3.5 trillion dollars to the SS admin. When are they gonna pay that back??? Ha! Never!
    • Luckylady200149774  •  Deforest, Wisconsin  •  4 mths ago
      Here's a thought, take the $2 + billion we are sending Pakistan and put it into the SS fund.
      • A Yahoo! User 4 mths ago
        Make the Spoiled Rich carry their weight. The shortfall in FED revenue from the Rich Low-Tax Entitlement, is causing the Fed to borrow from the "Social Security Trust Fund".
      • jaguargod 4 mths ago
        More like $30 billion.
      • sunshine 4 mths ago
        and don't forget Israel,Jordan,Egypt.
    • Sharon  •  4 mths ago
      There is a simple, common sense fix to this problem: Put the SS money back into the account that Congress took out, and tell them to keep their grubby, stealing paws off the money that workers & employers paid into the system!!!!! No entitlement here--the government and the media all need to quit calling it that!!!
    • ptdmi  •  Jackson, Michigan  •  4 mths ago
      since these clowns took the money out of a trust fund ss and is not a entitlement program. I have paid into to this #$%$ for 40 years and now these clowns say to raise the age and cut what they pay out. Lets put these clowns into ss and get rid of their benfits. You would see a different way these clowns would be talking. Put the money back and stop taking it out.
    • No Amnesty No Dream Act  •  4 mths ago
      For the idiots who claim that foreigners/illegals cannot collect benefits: A Judge rejected her application for asylum & was ordered to leave the US, Zeituni Onyango, Barry's aunt, was granted "political asylum" after spending 10 YEARS as an ILLEGAL ALIEN in Boston, living on public housing, RECEIVING WELFARE & COLLECTING DISABILITY CHECKS! The Kenyan's aunt own words: "If I come as immigrant you have the OBLIGATION to make me citizen". Watch her on YOUTUBE.
    • Mary  •  Cheyenne, Wyoming  •  4 mths ago
      How 'bout the government put back the money they took out, with interest, and only those who put money can get money out.
    • russell  •  Macomb, Michigan  •  4 mths ago
      Hey kids,
      The ONLY way to start solving this problem of SOCIAL SECURITY, DEBTS, DEFICITS, POVERTY and UNEMPLOYMENT is to BRING BACK TO AMERICA EVERY SINGLE JOB outsourced to India, China and Mexico since 1980.
      IF we do this then people will have JOBS which increases the TAX BASE(WITHOUT RAISING TAXES ON ANYONE) as the newly employed pay income taxes(AND FICA TAXES TOO). It will also RESTORE the collapsed housing market as people start to BUY PROPERTY again.
      We WON'T have to TAX the rich to balance the budget.
      We WON'T have to CUT benefits(Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, Unemployment Insurance) to the poor, sick or elderly.
      It's the OUTSOURCING OF GOOD PAYING JOBS that is the REAL, ROOT CAUSE of ALL of this.
      It eroded the tax base and now we have no money for Police, Fire Departments, schools, ect.
      Its time for AMERICAN companies to put PATRIOTISM over PROFIT and bring back AMERICAN jobs at AMERICAN wages or AMERICA... DOES...NOT...PROSPER.
      Or survive for that matter.
    • gary  •  4 mths ago
      Stop sending immigrants SSI checks who have never paid a dime into the system. American citizens have paid into the SS trust fund for their entire lives, why should they be denied something they've already paid for? Stop Congress from fleecing the SS fund for their pet projects.
    • Terry C  •  Little Rock, Arkansas  •  4 mths ago
      Over the past 20 years Washington has raided the S.S. fund to pay for their pet projects. There needs to be laws passed to prevent them from touching and of the money in the fund and they should have to pay back every cent they have taken.
    • murray  •  4 mths ago
      Social Security must be taken from the slush fund and set aside. Maybe the government should start paying back all the money its borrowed over the years for programs that have nothing to do with what the program was designed to do.
    • MiamiVice  •  4 mths ago
      A) STOP robbing our SS for other funding, B) REPLACE what you already stole and C) REPLACE your representatives who vote against it. Period!
    • AWolf  •  4 mths ago
      Fixing SocSec is easy. Contributions are capped (2012) on the first $110K of income. Just take the cap off and it is 'fixed' as far out as one can reasonably calculate.
      Fixing Medicare is the BIG problem.
    • Randy  •  Houston, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      You fix Social Security by returning all the money the Politicians stole and end that payroll Taxbreak.
    • Bye, Bye Barry Soetoro  •  4 mths ago
      Do you want to: Stop SSI/Medicare, low income housing/utilities to foreigners that never contributed to the system. Read Ron Paul's plan & stop whining. None of the other candidates have a clue on this or immigration issues.
    • Ron Paul 2012  •  4 mths ago
      You fix it by stopping SSI (another word for SS) checks to foreigners that never contributed to the system. With SSI, Medicare is added automatically. The only requirement for foreigners is to have lived here for 5 yrs. If their families cannot provide for their old, they shouldn't be allowed to suck our benefits either.
    • Wayne  •  4 mths ago
      To fix Social Security....

      1. Everyone should pay into SS regaurdless of income level.

      2. The Government should repay the $2.6Trillion it owes SS

      3. The Government should never be aloud to borrow from SS again.

      4. Everyone should be required to retire at age 65, making more jobs available for the youth.
      If you knew you had to retire you would make plans.

      5. Stop paying SS money to people that do not pay into it.
    • larryv  •  House, New Mexico  •  4 mths ago
      Raid the federal pensions and pay back SS,and also cut the loopholes the congress created for the rich.
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