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    Fla. lawmaker wants to bring back firing squads

    TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Saying it's time to stop letting convicted killers "get off that easy," a Florida state lawmaker wants to use firing squads or the electric chair for those on death row.

    Rep. Brad Drake filed a bill this week that would end the use of lethal injection in Florida executions. Instead, those with a death sentence would choose between electrocution or a firing squad.

    Drake, a Republican, said the idea came to him after having a conversation with a constituent at a Waffle House over the legal battles associated with the Sept. 28 execution of Manuel Valle.

    Valle's lawyers tried to stop the execution by arguing that a new lethal drug cocktail would cause him pain and therefore constitute cruel and unusual punishment. Courts, however, rejected that argument and let the execution go forward.

    But Drake said the person at the restaurant questioned why death row inmates should even be allowed to die by lethal injection. Drake said he agreed and decided to sponsor the bill that would mandate a switch. The GOP-controlled Florida Legislature will consider the bill during the 2012 session that starts in January.

    He said government is spending too much time listening to advocacy groups and instead should put in place a death sentence that forces convicted murderers to contemplate their fates.

    Lethal injection just allows a person to die in their sleep while a firing squad or electrocution would force death row inmates to think about their punishment "every morning," Drake said.

    "I think if you ask a hundred people, not even talking to criminals, how would you like to die, if you were drowned, if you were shot, and if you say you were put to sleep, 90 percent of some of the people would say I want to be put to sleep," Drake said. "Let's put our pants back on the right way."

    Florida first began using the electric chair in 1924. Before then, most executions were carried out by hanging.

    But the state switched to lethal injection in 2000. Then-Gov. Jeb Bush and the Republican-controlled Legislature pushed through the change after several botched electrocutions raised concerns that the state's death penalty would be declared unconstitutional. The U.S. Supreme Court had agreed at the time to hear a challenge to the use of the electric chair.

    Since the state made the switch, a total of 26 people have died by lethal injection, including Valle and serial killers Danny Rolling and Aileen Wuornos.

    Howard Simon, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida, said Drake's legislation would just cause embarrassment for Florida if it were adopted.

    "Just when you thought that public policy in Florida couldn't get worse, along comes a state rep who develops proposed legislation from what he overhears at the Waffle House," Simon said. "Given all that former members of the Florida Supreme Court and the American Bar Association have said about Florida's broken death penalty system, including the nation's highest number of exonerations, this would be embarrassing — if our legislature were capable of embarrassment."

    But Drake said that those who caused suffering and grief for families should get their day of reckoning.

    "I just don't think they should be able to get off that easy," he said.

     

    1,962 comments

    • Master Bradster  •  4 mths ago
      Why should he (Drake) be given the rights to make LAWS in the first place? Why not let the people decide what should be a condemned man's fate?
    • tigre  •  4 mths ago
      Brad misses the point. Punishment is meted out for the protection of society, and short of death, to deter criminals from committing greater/more crimes. Punishment is not meant to provide satisfaction, or revenge, or entertainment. It is useful to observe punishment, particularly the death penalty, only in providing closure -- to assure a victim that the criminal will not have another opportunity to commit a crime.
    • ENDO-  •  4 mths ago
      The problem is not the method of termination.. it's the length of time taxpayers have to pay for the #$%$ after they're convicted..
    • Michael  •  4 mths ago
      I am a very Left of Center Liberal when it comes to governement and how we should function as a society but I am 110% for a Capital Punishment that accomplishes what it is designed to do...revoke the life of the guilty who has previously revoked the Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness of the victim. If someone is caught with entrails in the mouth when the cops show up, then they obviously did it and they do not need to be kept alive for 10+ years and then put to sleep 'humanely' like a dog in the pound or worse become an 'insane' burden on the taxpayer who serves no purpose. A vicious violent murder that warrants a Death Penatly deserves a punisnment that is quick, efficient, low-cost and one that brings closure to the family instead of letting it drag on for years. If there is any doubt of obvious guilt, then the appeals process should be properly employed if applicable, but not one that takes decades to work through the courts at the cost of potentially millions to the burdened taxpayers.

      We as a society see each and every day the low-cost value of lives in the violent country we live in thanks to the constant barrage of weaponery being legally manufactured every day for legal and more likely illegal purposes with one one real purpose...to be used to inflict harm or death. We allow the potential violent instruments to be bought, sold, traded, stolen based on antiquetd notions of necessity based solely on the fear of others that we all learn to live with. We knowingly allow psychologically sick and dysfunctional people to live amongst us if they have not committed a crime and then when they do, we are shocked and we must legally evaluate their post-crime mental capacity in terms of whether or not they were aware of what they were doing to ensure we as a society understand what WE are doing when considering the punishment, if any.

      The very least an effective Death Penalty should do is to end the life of the person found legally guilty of the crime. But this is an ineffective penalty or deterrence if the death is meted in ways that cause 'no harm' to the guilty. A death penalty killing is inherently illogical to a civilized society. So why is a 'humane' approach to the requisite death necessary? If they deserve to die, then kill them. Kill them now. Disconnect the brain with a simple pop in the head. Who cares about the 'suffering'? They wouldn't be geting killed by the penal system if they didn't inflicted suffering on others themselves. There is no need for a ritual. No need for a slow, systematic, and often useless expectation of possible human mercy to delay the inevitable. Bring back the firing squad, bring back the guillotine, bring back public hanging. Make the inevitable death of a deserving criminal an effective deterrent for the society. For as backwards and inhuman our Western society sees other cultures that routinely use public execution as a deterrent, there is no doubt that the criminal violence seen in these countries is miniscule in number and scope compared to the hourly violence we are forced to encounter in the U.S.
    • S102207  •  4 mths ago
      a prison is like a good home to them, FREE medical, FREE food, FREE room, FREE vacation, NO worries, NO bills..........if you kill someone, after one year vacation, you need to be eliminated........that will save us our tax money......
    • DaleH  •  4 mths ago
      Let's just use a bullet in the back of the head at close range like they did in the USSR.
    • James R. Chance  •  4 mths ago
      Firing squads are a great idea if it's used exclusively on POLITICIANS that lie, cheat, and steal America blind and all the other crimes they commit. I guess that would take quite a few bullets wouldn’t it….
    • Jose the AMERICAN  •  4 mths ago
      I am amazed at how many posts are for the MURDERERS on death row. If a person is convicted in court by his peers, give him his alotted appeals, if DNA evidence is involved, check that out, and if he is still found guilty, Hang him, Shot him or Fry him, but get him GONE. If some of these bleeding hearts want this man to live, let him live in their home, and guarantee on forefiture of their lives that he will not commit another crime. Oh yes, they must house and feed him at their expense!!
    • STEPHEN  •  4 mths ago
      Why spend thousands on the drugs used in lethal injections, when they could be given an overdose of confiscated illegal drugs.
    • dead  •  4 mths ago
      bullets are waaaayyyy cheaper.and get the job done. as for rights, they gave theirs up when they took some one elses. no mercy to be shown. in todays world of DNA tests, there should be no doubt.
    • Bill  •  4 mths ago
      I couldn't care less what form of execution is used. I just want it used.
    • Kirara  •  4 mths ago
      Utah still allows condemed criminasl to CHOOSE the firing squad for 1 reason, it is the only method of execution that allows you to donate your organs. I believe that it should be a choice available in all states that have the death penalty for this reason. Oh, and it would be completly possible to make a remote firing squad
    • popeye1250  •  4 mths ago
      Just have "baker's half dozen" ways to execute them on a dart board and throw a dart at it!
      "Hangin'", "Gas Chamber", "Guillotine", "Electric Chair", "Run over by a Steam Roller", "Firing Squad."
    • Jus Gladii  •  4 mths ago
      Hey, buddy you are on the right track; hanging is a whole lot cheaper!
    • icthruyorBS  •  4 mths ago
      You want to stop people from even thinking about committing a capital offense, bring back public executions, just like the days of the old west, they would have the execution in the public square and everyone was encouraged to attend, make a whole day of it, pack a picnic lunch and the whole works....I guarantee that if they show just one guy on national TV, not even pay-per-view, emptying his bowels for the last time from being hanged, shot by firing squad, or electrocution, most everyone would think very hard and long about committing a crime of that nature, actually pay-per-view is not a bad idea, the proceeds can go to the victims!....BUT FIRST, THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT PERSON, tOO many people are being found innocent through DNA, after spending many years in prison, makes me wonder how many innocent people they have killed, or are being help in prisons right now. We wouldn't even have to be discussing this if people would just behave themselves, when are we going to wake up and focus on accension and not recession?.
    • Peon Masses  •  4 mths ago
      yesssss!! finally, we are going old-school again, i've been asking for this for a long time....
    • Josh  •  4 mths ago
      firing squad= instant death, no pain, and organs could be used to help others! Bring in the guns!!
    • B  •  4 mths ago
      sounds good to me, none of it matter until they reduce the appeals process. appeals should never be over 4 years, not 2 decades like it is now.
    • Salad head  •  4 mths ago
      Smith & Wesson likes this idea.
    • Subgenius  •  4 mths ago
      Even better, execute them by the sames means the victim perished. Running Man comes to mind, as well as, Idiocracy's "Rehabilitation".
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