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    French parliament passes Armenian 'genocide' bill

    PARIS (AP) — France's parliament voted Monday to make it a crime to deny that the killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turks nearly a century ago constituted a genocide, risking more sanctions from Turkey and complicating an already delicate relationship with the rising power.

    Turkey, which sees the allegations of genocide as a threat to its national honor, suspended military, economic and political ties and briefly recalled its ambassador last month when the lower house of parliament approved the same bill.

    Before Monday's Senate vote, Turkey threatened more measures if the bill passed, though did not specify them. President Nicolas Sarkozy, whose party supported the bill, still needs to sign it into law, but that is largely considered a formality.

    The debate surrounding the measure comes in the highly charged run-up to France's presidential elections this spring, and critics have called the move a ploy to the garner votes of the some 500,000 Armenians who live in France.

    Valerie Boyer, the lawmaker from Sarkozy's conservative UMP party who wrote the bill, did not deny that, saying that politicians are supposed to pass laws that they think their constituents want.

    "That's democracy," she said.

    But this domestic gamble could have major international consequences. France's relations with Turkey are already strained, in large part because Sarkozy opposes Turkey's entry into the European Union. The law will no doubt further sour relations with a NATO member that is playing an increasingly important role in the international community's response to the violence in Syria, the standoff over Iran's nuclear program and peace negotiations in the Middle East.

    "It is null and void for us," Turkey's Justice Minister Sadullah Ergin said on live TV immediately after the bill's passage Monday. "It is a great disgrace and injustice against Turkey. I want to tell to France that you have no value for us in the slightest degree, we don't care."

    The bill has also drawn massive protests in Paris, with thousands of Turks converging on the city this weekend to denounce it. On Monday, smaller rival demonstrations, separated by a substantial police presence, gathered outside the Senate.

    The Senate voted 127 to 86 to pass the bill late Monday. Twenty-four people abstained. The measure sets a punishment of up to one year in prison and a fine of euro45,000 ($59,000) for those who deny or "outrageously minimize" the killings.

    Despite the potentially serious consequences, many senators did not show up for the vote, instead allowing colleagues to serve as proxies. Those in the Senate chamber, however, fiercely debated the measure over several hours.

    For some in France, the bill is part of a tradition of legislation in some European countries, born of the agonies of the Holocaust, that criminalizes the denial of genocides. Denying the Holocaust is already a punishable crime in France.

    Most historians contend that the 1915 killings of 1.5 million Armenians as the Ottoman Empire broke up was the 20th century's first genocide, and several European countries recognize the massacres as such. Switzerland has convicted people of racism for denying the genocide.

    But Turkey says that there was no systematic campaign to kill Armenians and that many Turks also died during the chaotic disintegration of the empire. It also says that death toll is inflated.

    Boyer, the bill's author, said Monday that it seeks to protect the very human rights that France first defined during its revolution.

    Others warn that it threatens those same rights, especially freedom of expression. A Senate commission, in fact, recommended against the passage of the law, saying it raised constitutional questions, and the law could still face constitutional challenges.

    "It's not up to parliament to define history," said Jean-Jacques Pignard, a senator who spoke against the measure in an hourslong debate. "We can't impose repentance. Repentance is a long personal journey."

    But the senators who spoke for it on Monday said it was their duty to fight against those who would deny settled history.

    "Once it's written, isn't it up to us to take notice?" asked Yannick Vaugrenard, a Socialist senator. "The truth is not always strong enough to conquer lies."

    While senators debated the law Monday afternoon, about 150 pro-Armenian protesters and the same number of pro-Turkish demonstrators gathered outside the building.

    Those in the pro-Turkish camp held banners declaring, "Liberty, Equality, Stupidity" and "It's not up to politicians to invent history."

    Turkey's ambassador to France later lamented the vote.

    "Everyone is going to suffer (from this). France, Turkey, Armenia of course. There will be unfortunately a radicalization of positions of all sides," said Tahsin Burcuoglu.

    But Alexis Govciyan, national president of the Council of Coordination of Armenian Organizations in France, said that the law that would protect "the memory of the victims of the genocide, and the dignity of their descendants like us will be respected."

    ___

    Associated Press writers Selcan Hacaoglu in Ankara, Turkey, and Jeffrey Schaeffer and Nicolas Garriga in Paris also contributed.

     
    • timothy e  •  4 mths ago
      Nothing will bring back the dead. There is to much pride here and not enough humility. Adit to the genocide and let's all move on. No body win's in these situation's.
      • timothy e 4 mths ago
        Admit
      • gizmo 4 mths ago
        France should remember the famous quote by Voltaire.
      • Edo 4 mths ago
        Let it be accepted, we shall gladly move on.
    • Yahoo  •  4 mths ago
      During 1894-1923 the Ottoman Empire conducted a policy of Genocide of the Christian population living within its extensive territory. The Sultan, Abdul Hamid, first put forth an official governmental policy of genocide against the Armenians of the Ottoman Empire in 1894. Systematic massacres took place in 1894-1896 when Abdul savagely killed 300,000 Armenians throughout the provinces. Massacres recurred, and in 1909 government troops killed, in the towns of Adana alone, over 20,000 Christian Armenians. When WW1 broke out the The Ottoman Empire was ruled by the "Young Turk" dictatorship which allied itself with Germany. Turkish government decided to eliminate the whole of the Christian population of Greeks, Armenians, Syrians and Nestorians. The government slogan, "Turkey for the Turks", served to encourage Turkish civilians on a policy of ethnic cleansing. The next step of the Armenian Genocide began on 24 April 1915 with the mass arrest, and ultimate murder, of religious, political and intellectual leaders in Constantinople and elsewhere in the empire. Then, in every Armenian community, a carefully planned Genocide unfolded: Arrest of clergy and other prominent persons, disarmament of the population and Armenian soldiers serving in the Ottoman army, segregation and public execution of leaders and able-bodied men, and the deportation to the deserts of the remaining Armenian women, children and elderly. Renowned historian Arnold Toynbee wrote that "the crime was concerted very systematically for there is evidence of identical procedure from over fifty places." The Genocide started from the border districts and seacoasts, and worked inland to the most remote hamlets. Over 1.5 million Armenian Christians, including over 4,000 bishops and priests, were killed in this step of the Genocide. The Greek Christians, particularly in the Black Sea area known as Pontus, who had been suffering from Turkish persecutions and murders all the while, saw the Turks turn more fiercely on them as WW1 came to a close. The Allied Powers, at a peace conference in Paris in 1919, rewarded Greece for her support by inviting Prime Minister Venizelos to occupy the city of Smyrna with its rich hinterlands, and they placed the province under Greek control. This action greatly angered the Turks. The Greek occupation was a peaceful one but drew immediate fire from Turkish forces in the outlying areas. When the Greek army farmed out to protect its people, a full-fledged war broke out between Greece and Turkey (the Greco-Turkish war). The Treaty of Sevres, signed in 1920 to end WW1 and which provided for an independent Armenia, was never ratified. The treaty's terms changed not long after the ink dried as England, France and Italy each began secretly bargaining with Mustafa Kemel (Ataturk) in order to gain the right to exploit oil fields in the Mozul (now Iraq). Betrayed by the Allied Powers, the Greek military front, after 40 long months of war, collapsed and retreated as the Turks began again to occupy Asia Minor. September 1922 signaled the end of the Greek and Armenian presence in the city of Smyrna. On 9 September 1922, the Turks entered Smyrna; and after systematically murdering the Armenians in their own homes, the forces of Ataturk turned on the Greeks whose numbers had swelled, with the addition of refugees who had fled their villages in Turkey's interior, to upwards of 400,000 men, women and children. The conquering Turks went from house to house, looting, pillaging, raping and murdering the population. Finally, when the wind had turned so that it was blowing toward the sea so that the small Turkish quarter at the rear of the city was not in danger, Turkish forces, led by their officers, poured kerosene on the buildings and homes of the Greek and Armenian sectors and set them afire. Thus, any remaining live inhabitants of the city were flushed out to be caught between a wall of fire and the sea.
    • ed  •  Irvine, California  •  4 mths ago
      Over 3000 historic Armenian churches and Monuments were leveled 100 years ago in ancient Armenia.............and the extermination of a nation.............hum, that is not war it is Genocide.
      • ***** 4 mths ago
        and thousands of turks all over the ottoman world lost their lives to their christian neighbors whom they lived side by side and called brother. these acts have been repeated over and over in the past 100 years most recent being the bosnians, albenians, and feel free to look up turkem and azeri lives lost to armenian criminals in the 80's and 90's
        that is war its not genocide iraq had nothing to do with 911 and we've lost more people in that war the count is even higher than the inflated armenian numbers.

        genocide has gas chambers, group burrials, ovens, roundups, gold stars and the vatican backing it. in the ottoman world we had roundups in vilages of manastir, macedonia in the middle of the night helpless turks were rounded up and shot women raped children killed thanks greek brotherhood!
    • Templar  •  4 mths ago
      No murderer admits of its murders. Shame shame on you Turkey for continuing to deny the Armenian massacre committed by you. Denying will not remove the blood of 1.5 million massacred Armenians from your necks.
    • thestraightguyfromcalifor ...  •  Calabasas, California  •  4 mths ago
      Denying a crime is a bigger crime than the crime itself!
      Turks, take example and learn from the Germans!
      There is no such a thing as perfect crime! Sooner or later you will have to recognize the horrible crimes you commited!
    • US History Instructor  •  San Jose, California  •  4 mths ago
      That's like the Germans (and neo-nazi sympathizers) saying the Holocaust never happened!
      • Murat 4 mths ago
        The difference is Holocaust did happen and no one argues it.
      • V.H. 4 mths ago
        Murat E, who do you mean by "no one"? Ahmadinejad? White supremacists? David Duke? Neo-Nazis? Do you really mean "no one"?

        US History Instructor, you are spot on!!
      • ***** 4 mths ago
        no its not like that at all! its like saying that the u.s. would stand there and whatch as conecticut helped canada invade the u.s..of course we would march to conecticut and kill every pinko out there. like we did after the revolution to all the pinko's
    • beebs  •  Dayton, Ohio  •  4 mths ago
      The Turks are NOT PART OF EUROPE. Historically, the Western and Northern coasts of modern day 'Turkey' were part of Greece. If the Turks want to be part of Europe so bad, then they need to RETURN all the land that they STOLE from the Greeks. Notice how concerned Muslims are about returning land ONLY when they believe the land is theirs.
      • Henry 4 mths ago
        Keep dreaming.
      • Henry 4 mths ago
        Turk did not stole it. They won in the battle field and conquer Asia minor. Turks kicked Greeks butts, that's why they are still sour.
      • Stranger 4 mths ago
        If it wasn't for French and English, Russian would kick Turk buts out Asia Minor long time ago. Actually they did it many times before Crimea is an example. Then English kicked Turks but out of Midlle East. If you continuew behave this way another kick is coming. So watch your but carefuly...
    • Yahoo  •  4 mths ago
      FROM WIKIPEDIA; Winston Churchill described the Armenian Christian massacres as an "administrative holocaust" and noted that "the clearance of the Armenian race from Asia Minor was about as complete as such an act, on a scale so great, could well be. There is no reasonable doubt that this crime was planned and executed for political reasons. The opportunity presented itself for clearing Turkish soil of a Christian race opposed to all Turkish ambitions, cherishing national ambitions that could only be satisfied at the expense of Turkey, and planted geographically between Turkish and Caucasian Muslims."[63]:329
      • greg 4 mths ago
        Winston churchill was no Turkophile. He lost all his marbles when the Turks kicked the brit #$%$ @ Gallipoli.
      • ***** 4 mths ago
        winston churchill what? the english had a reporter on site and the man had nothing to report look it up see for yourself. england would have been more than happy to report and document this act of evil if it existed yet the reporter telegramed his governemnt "there is nothing to report"
    • Yahoo  •  4 mths ago
      FROM THE WEBSITE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE BY TURKS: This bitter dispute is rooted in a violent period of world history, as Europe and much of the Middle East was torn apart by World War I, in the declining years of the Ottoman Empire. This era of atrocities continues to be referred to as "The Armenian Genocide", but in reality the Turks targeted all minority groups which were Christian, and killed or displaced millions of Armenians Christians, Ionian Christians and Pontic Greek Christians as well as Christian Assyrians. The Pontic Greek Christians were driven on the same death marches by the Turks, along with the Assyrian Christians, as they lived in more inland areas. The Ionian Christians had the best chance for escape, as they lived on the western coastal region, though many were still slaughtered - even into the 1920s (most notably at the burning/massacre of Smyrna (Izmir to the Turks) in 1922.
    • Yahoo  •  4 mths ago
      Type "Armenian Christian Genocide image results" into your search engine. Some pretty horrifying photos which speaks louder than words.
    • Greg  •  4 mths ago
      "European values are under threat," Turkish Foreign Minister Davutoglu said Monday."

      They're under threat from people like him.
    • Yahoo  •  4 mths ago
      Even Adolf Hitler cited the killing of the Armenians as a precedent for his own slaughter of the Jews two decades later. "Kill without mercy!" the Nazi leader told his military on the eve of the Holocaust. "Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"
    • Chloe  •  4 mths ago
      in Turkey, admitting the genocide is illegal and in France its illegal to deny it.
    • Porky  •  Brookline, Massachusetts  •  4 mths ago
      I wish United States would follow French's example, instead of treating Turkey with kid's gloves.
    • Stranger  •  4 mths ago
      Turks just postponing the hour that they themselves will take the fact as is and be done with it. Good night guys. Peace..
    • Thomas Jeferson  •  San Francisco, California  •  4 mths ago
      A great move by France!
    • Harry  •  Huntington Beach, California  •  4 mths ago
      Nicely done France. Congratulations Turkey, you earned this Law.
    • El-Mexicano  •  4 mths ago
      Turks and Armenians are different nationalities; however, genetically 99.999999% the same.
      I have been to a Turkish restaurant and also been to a Armenian restaurant, the food taste the same. Sadly speaking, religions divide people.
    • Robert  •  Elmhurst, Illinois  •  4 mths ago
      The way the E.U. is being run, Turkey is better off not joining. Turkey needs to realize what they did in the past.
    • Djon  •  Waterford, Michigan  •  4 mths ago
      You cannot change history. You can try, but it will bite you in the end.
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