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    Gay marriage gaining momentum in WA Legislature

    OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — The last time same-sex marriage was debated in the Washington state Legislature, lawmakers voted to ban it. Fourteen years later, the issue is before the Legislature once again after a multiyear effort that has incrementally increased rights to gay and lesbian couples in the state.

    And this time around, it looks like Washington could very well become the seventh state plus the District of Columbia to legalize same-sex marriage.

    Gay marriage has won the backing of several prominent Pacific Northwest businesses, including Microsoft Corp. and NIKE, Inc., and just this week a conservative Democrat who once opposed same-sex marriage said he will now vote for it.

    Bills to legalize same-sex marriage have been introduced in the House and Senate, sponsored by two gay lawmakers who have pushed for gay rights measures in past years. The bills will have their first public hearings on Monday, before a Senate committee in the morning and a House committee in the afternoon. While gay marriage bills have been introduced in Washington state before, this is the first time the issue will receive a public hearing.

    "If there's one word to sum up where Washington is on marriage equality, it's momentum," said Michael Cole-Schwartz, a spokesman for the Washington, D.C.-based Human Rights Campaign.

    Same-sex marriage is legal in New York, Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont and the District of Columbia. Lawmakers in New Jersey and Maryland are expected to debate gay marriage this year as well.

    Washington state along with several other states, including California, Oregon and New Jersey, have laws that either recognize civil unions or domestic partnerships that afford same-sex couples some or nearly all of the rights to marriage.

    The debate over same-sex marriage in Washington state has changed significantly since lawmakers passed Washington's Defense of Marriage Act in 1998. The constitutionality of DOMA was ultimately upheld by the state Supreme Court in 2006, but earlier that year, a gay civil rights measure passed after nearly 30 years of failure, signaling a change of mindset in the Legislature.

    The quick progression of domestic partnership laws in the state came soon after, with a domestic partnership law in 2007, and two years of expansion that culminated in 2009 with the so-called "everything but marriage law" that was upheld by voters after opponents filed a referendum to challenge it.

    That slow-but-steady strategy was spearheaded by Democratic Sen. Ed Murray, a gay lawmaker from Seattle who has led the push for gay civil rights and domestic partnerships and who is sponsoring the Senate marriage bill.

    Murray said that it may have taken years to lay the groundwork, but now the state is ready to address same-sex marriage.

    "The culture changes and the politics follows," he said. "The most political act that changed the culture wasn't in Olympia, it wasn't me. It was people coming out to their families, to their workplace. That's what's changed people's minds."

    Momentum continued to build last week, when Microsoft and several other companies, including RealNetworks Inc., NIKE Inc. and Vulcan Inc., sent Gov. Chris Gregoire a letter Thursday saying they supported the two measures. Also on Thursday, Sen. Jim Kastama of Puyallup announced he would support the measure in the Senate, becoming the 24th senator to commit a vote to the measure. The state House is widely expected to have enough support to pass gay marriage, and Gregoire publicly endorsed the proposal earlier this month.

    The state Senate is now just one vote shy of having enough backing to approve the bill, with a half-dozen lawmakers remaining uncommitted.

    In October, a University of Washington poll found that an increasing number of people support same-sex marriage. About 43 percent of respondents said they support gay marriage, up from 30 percent in the same poll five years earlier. Another 22 percent said they support giving identical rights to gay couples but just not calling it marriage.

    When asked how they would vote if a referendum challenging a gay marriage law was on the ballot, 55 percent said they would vote yes to uphold the law, with 47 percent of them characterized as "strongly" yes, and 38 percent responded "no," that they would vote to reject a gay marriage law.

    If a marriage bill were passed, gay and lesbian couples would be able to get married starting in June unless opponents file a referendum to challenge it at the ballot.

    Under the bills being considered by the Legislature, people currently registered in domestic partnerships would have two years to either dissolve their relationship or get married. Domestic partnerships that aren't ended prior to June 30, 2014, would automatically become marriages.

    Domestic partnerships would remain for senior couples where at least one partner is 62 years old or older. That provision was included by lawmakers in 2007 to help seniors who don't remarry out of fear they could lose certain pension or Social Security benefits.

    The measure doesn't require religious organizations or churches to perform marriages, and doesn't subject them to penalties if they don't marry gay or lesbian couples.

    But several religious groups have opposed any discussion of gay marriage. This month, the Catholic bishops of Washington issued a statement saying that same-sex marriage was not in the public interest and calling on "the citizens of this state to maintain the legal definition of marriage."

    Joseph Backholm, executive director of The Family Policy Institute of Washington, said that the debate "really does go to the core of who we are, and what matters in the big picture."

    "What we're being offered is that marriage is for the purpose of validating relationships. If that is true, that is a shaky foundation and one that establishes precedent that no one wants to follow," he said.

    Earlier this week, the National Organization for Marriage announced that it would spend $250,000 to help fund primary challenges to any Republican who crosses party lines to vote for same-sex marriage in Washington state. So far, two Republicans in the Senate, and two in the House have said they would vote in support of gay marriage.

    Rep. Jamie Pedersen, a Democrat from Seattle who is sponsor of the House bill, said that even if a gay marriage law doesn't pass this year, the stage has been set for future success.

    "This change is inevitable," he said. "It's just a question of how long the families of same-sex families are going to have to wait for that justice to be done."

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    The gay marriage bills are Senate Bill 6239 and House Bill 2516.

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    Rachel La Corte can be reached at http://www.twitter.com/RachelAPOly

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    Online:

    http://www.leg.wa.gov

     
    • DW  •  Los Angeles, California  •  3 mths ago
      I cannot believe in any God who says that gays should refrain from love and sex their whole lives because it is a sin. Hah! Anyone who believes that sure didn't go to Harvard and they are sure not thinking for themselves. FREEDOM AND EQUALITY FOR ALL IN MY COURTS.
    • Honor  •  4 mths ago
      If your against gay marriage blame straight people,,,,,,, they are the ones who keep having gay babies
      • A Yahoo User! 4 mths ago
        Do you think these heterosexuals should be aborting the homosexuals? Oh where is that homosexual gene....
      • Ralph 3 mths ago
        The origin of homosexuality is unknown. The fact remains that almost every homosexual had heterosexual parents as I did.
      • A Yahoo User! 3 mths ago
        Then you didn't inherit the trait from your parents, right, Ralph? Ask yourself if you were abused and molested as a child. Did someone have homosex with you while you were a minor? I don't want the answers Ralph, don't care, I just want you to think about this since you claim to be intelligent.
    • Chris  •  4 mths ago
      Uh-oh. Look at what the heterosexuals are up to.

      "Ohio wrestler gets 32 years in HIV assault case

      A former professional wrestler was sentenced Monday to 32 years in prison for having sex with women without telling them he had tested positive for the virus that causes AIDS.

      Andre Davis, 29, was sentenced in Hamilton County Common Pleas on 14 counts of felonious assault. Davis, who wrestled using stage names including Gangsta of Love and Sweet Sexy Sensation, was convicted in November."

      So I guess this means we need to take away marriage rights for heterosexuals. Right?
      • Al Bundy 4 mths ago
        There you go, it's not the gays baby, the straights are spreading it too.
      • Jonathan Fulmens 4 mths ago
        The narrative that HIV is a curse or punishment given to gays only, and which acts as proof that homosexuality is wrong/bad, is a relic from the 80's.

        It is demonstrably false - the result of strident propaganda from small groups of bigots that need to see the suffering of their favored minority group in day-to-day life to validate and reinforce their hateful world view.

        The inclusion of this idea in the marraige debate, for or against, is a red herring. There is no need to cite even one example of heterosexual HIV to counter a certain commentor's nonsense.
      • Al Bundy 4 mths ago
        How do we monitor the bedrooms? Not ALL gays have anal sex. I know many that don't. So, you can't just assume that all gays have anal sex. As such, imagine the cost to police anal sex, just to satisfy your infatuation of people having anal sex.
    • edjm  •  Yucca Valley, California  •  3 mths ago
      Gay marriage has been put on the ballot many times throughout the United States and has failed every time throughout the United States, in California they don't want gay marriage but the legislation and the law is have chosen to go against the people 70% of the people are against gay marriage, but were still forced by lawmakers.
      • Christopher E 3 mths ago
        But 70% of the people don't get to decide which rights the 30% get to have. That's why it is being taken to the courts in California, and state legislatures everywhere else
      • A Yahoo User! 3 mths ago
        Then there should be no laws if rules of society aren't based either on God's Word OR the majority. If the judge in california had been qualifed for his job and kept his oath to protect the citizens, homosexuality would not have prevailed, but as it is, perversion is taking over this country.
      • Christopher E 3 mths ago
        So you would throw out the Constitution and replace it with the bible. Glad that is not how it works here since the Constitution guarantees people the freedom to practice whatever religion they choose, not just Christianity. It also grants equal rights to all which the Supreme Court determined included marriage.
    • Brynn  •  Charlotte, North Carolina  •  4 mths ago
      @Fireproof. I understand that Europeans do not have any pressing issues right now. Running out of topics relevant to you like that rather shaky currency that you all spend, a reported reseurgence of the Nazi party and whether you'll have to fork out another Trillion to bail out Greece?
      However, I will give the benefit of the doubt and assume you are an American living in Germany. Do us all a favor and at least make posts that make sense. Using sodomy, which is practiced by a vast majority of humans (non vaginal sex practiced by male/male, male/female or female/female couples) hardly makes you sound informed. Similarly, homosexuality is an orientation not a fetish (an object or bodily part whose real or fantasied presence is psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete sexual expression).
      • Satan 4 mths ago
        Enjoy your freedom to move about queer TROLL, because in HELL you will be bound to a cell of flames and unspeakable horror, for all eternity!
      • A Yahoo User! 4 mths ago
        Hey Brynn - I don't think ANYONE including heterosexuals) should be given rights based on their desire to practice sodomy.
      • Brynn 4 mths ago
        @fireproof .. Sodomy non-vaginal sex between a male and female. Sex between two males ..ever done either of those?
    • Chris  •  4 mths ago
      Postage: "The ninth circuit court disagreed and stated homosexual behavior is not immutable and there for has no right under the law."

      What is this case you're referring to?
      • Chris 4 mths ago
        Okay, since I'm being ignored I went and found it myself. The case Postal keeps referring to was called High Tech Gays v. Defense Industrial Security Clearance Office. The decision in that case relied on a precedent set by Bowers v. Hardwick, which was later overruled by Lawrence v. Texas. So Postal is citing legal precedent that no longer exists. Why am I not surprised?
      • Al Bundy 4 mths ago
        Regardless, Homosexuality has NEVER been illegal.
      • G 4 mths ago
        People associate homosexuality with sodomy. There has been persecution of homosexuals for practicing sodomy.
        I say, stay out of the bedrooms of our neighbors.
    • GARY  •  4 mths ago
      DOG WHISTLE!!!!
      Attention please. Let's review the history lesson.
      Slaves were almost NEVER allowed to marry. Interracial couples were legally NOT allowed to marry. Gays have NOT been allowed to marry. See a pattern here? The government is often as adept at denying rights as it is adept at defending rights. It is time to completely and forever get the government out of the way of private citizens who want to marry. Let's undo this latest attempt at tyranny and move on to other more imprtant matters.
    • The Doctor  •  3 mths ago
      We have to affirm that the homosexual community has the burden of proving why the life style choice should be recognized as "normal" behavior so as to obtain their concept of "marriage". We already know that heterosexual behavior is normal and is naturally designed. Marriage was in existance for recorded history and no precedent in having a flamboyant change from different sex to same sex, until recently. Not only we know that, but the opposition knows that, and that is why they are going all out to suppress the normalcy of heterosexuality. So far nobody from that camp can reasonably explain why the rest of normal society should allow it. And so far I got only rants and "grasping at straws" story telling. And the citations I was given to prove that the behavior is normal, is inconclusive at best, a bold face lie at worst. Stick to civil union.
    • ICEMAN  •  4 mths ago
      Go Washington! Legalize it!
    • Kevin  •  Monett, Missouri  •  4 mths ago
      Explain to me how allowing gay marriage is going to make all the straight people gay and depopulate the earth again? Because that might be the most assinine reason yet to prohibit gay marriage
    • Ian  •  4 mths ago
      This is another huge step towards an awesome society. I, for one, relish the fight. The Christian god comes across as a jerk and a bully, and I've always stood up to bullies.
    • T  •  Waxahachie, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      The Nuer have a practice by which if a man has no sons, he declares one of his daughters to be a boy so she can inheret the family name. The "son" takes a (female) wife who descretely takes a lover and produces an heir for her "Husband."
    • T  •  Waxahachie, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      In Japan it is normative that men get a good job and a wife and produce kids. However, as long as he is discrete there is no moral prohibition against taking lovers of either sex. Gay *sex* as such is not stigmatized, although rejecting the social gender role historically is. That said, I do not recommend this model. Despite their shocking low divorce rate, their marital happiness is among the worst in the world.
    • T  •  Waxahachie, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      1 in 5 heterosexual marriages do not produce children, usually through choice (birth control). Does this mean that their marriage is not valid? That their sex has 'no net benefit.' Should str8 people who don't WANT or can't have kids be prohibited from getting married?
    • jr  •  4 mths ago
      @The Doctor: Two Points. 1. What the majority wants or popular vote is often irrelevant pertaining to Equal Rights in the U.S. You obviously don’t understand that the U.S. is a Democracy Republic, meaning The Majority (or Popular Vote) is Limited in a Republic under a written Constitution, safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority. The Courts/Judges are often needed because, when the majority can pass laws or rules that apply, not just to themselves, but to all members of the group, judgment is required to DISTINGUISH potential laws which are reasonable and fair from those which are TYRANNICAL because they are unnecessary, unfair, and justifiably intolerable to the minority that opposed them.

      Formal mechanisms need to be in place, wherever feasible, to prevent tyrannical laws from being passed by those whose judgment in such matters might fail: For example, courts often step in when people try to pass laws to coddle their Bigotry, Hate, and/or Ignorance, ignoring that the laws are unfair, unnecessary, and intolerable to the minority by DENYING the minority the same rights the majority may have.

      2. The majority of people (or Popular Vote) did not want slavery to end, equal rights for women, interracial marriages, etc. If we made laws based only on the majority, many groups in the U.S. would not have Civil/Equal rights. An unjust law is one that a majority compels a minority group to obey but does not make binding on ITSELF; privileged groups seldom give up their privileges voluntarily.
    • T  •  Waxahachie, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      Civil marriage is a civil right. Religious marriage is between you and your vicar.
    • Chris  •  4 mths ago
      It seems like whenever the anti-gays lose an argument, they spam the board in an effort to hide the fact that they lost an argument.

      Nice tactic.
    • Chris  •  4 mths ago
      Jacksonville seems to want the government to install video cameras in our bedrooms to make sure we're having the right kind of sex. Sorry Jacksonville but the government has no place in our bedrooms. If that's the kind of life you want, go start a theocracy with the SEX POLICE monitoring your every move.
    • Jonathan Fulmens  •  4 mths ago
      Polygamy is illegal in the U.S. because historically, those (christians) who practiced it used it as a means to commoditize, enslave, and rape underage girls at an institutional level.

      Polygamy is inherently sexist. If you wanted relationship equality, you'd want polyandry to be legal, as well.

      No, legalizing gay marraige will not legalize polyamory.
    • jr  •  4 mths ago
      @Thomas: You said "Gays should have been satisfied with civil unions." There are HUGE differences as follows between Marriages and Civil Unions, which is why most Gay people want Marriage Equality, and if you think there aren’t any differences, then YOU should be OKAY with having ALL relationships (Gay or Straight) termed as a Civil Union instead of Marriage.. . . . Marriage vs. Civil Unions - Separate and UNEQUAL. Two Points.

      1. Benefits of MARRIAGE - There are financial and personal benefits that married couple enjoy as a result of their legal union. Those benefits include:
      · Tax Benefits: married couples may file join tax returns with the IRS and with the state. Often, this provides tax benefits to the two individuals who have entered the marriage.
      · Estate Planning and Other Benefits: surviving spouses are entitled to inherit all of their deceased spouse’s assets without incurring any taxes.
      · Health Care Benefits: Married spouses who work for qualifying employers may be entitled to family leave under the Family Medical Leave Act to care for a sick spouse. Spouses may also have the right to make certain medical decisions for a sick spouse and to have unlimited visitation privileges while a spouse is hospitalized.
      · Citizenship: non-U.S. citizens who marry United State citizens may have certain citizenship benefits that unmarried couples do not enjoy.
      · Divorce: while this seems an unlikely benefit to marriage, married couples enjoy the certainty of a legal system that can dissolve their marriage and distribute their assets. Unmarried couples do not enjoy this certainty.

      2. Benefits of a Civil Union or Domestic Partnership are LIMITED

      While some states recognize civil unions or domestic partnerships, many states do not recognize these unions and do not provide domestic partners with the same legal rights as married couples. Further, according to the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) the states that do not recognize domestic partnerships are under no obligation to recognize domestic partnerships that were entered into in other states. That means that if a couple enters a legally valid civil union or domestic partnership in one state and travels to another state that does not recognize their legal relationship and one partner becomes ill, the other partner does not have the legal right to visit in the hospital or to act as next of kin.
      Further, since federal law does not recognize civil unions or domestic partnerships, federal tax returns are filed separately and partners may not be entitled to the same benefits as married couples. Other benefits such as social security and company retirement benefits may also be limited.
      Finally, marriage provides spouses with social recognition of their union that domestic partners and couples in civil unions do not enjoy.
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