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    Gay Marriage is Here to Stay; Now Let’s Move On

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    COMMENTARY | Despite the efforts of conservatives who fear that allowing gay couples the dignity of marriage will cause an apocalypse, the tide is turning relentlessly toward allowing gay marriage. Like it or not, it's here to stay. Washington is on the verge of becoming the seventh state to make same sex marriage legal, according to the Associated Press.

    This happened a day after the demise of Proposition 8 in California. Proposition 8 was ruled unconstitutional by a federal panel of judges, in a decision the Washington Post calls "just but wobbly."

    The legal process of making unfair discrimination going away has always been lengthy and difficult, but eventually it happens. It's called progress. This morning I was listening to the radio to commentary about Proposition 8. The parallel was drawn between gay marriage and interracial marriage, which at one time was illegal. I'm sure somebody thought the sky would fall and the Earth open to swallow us all if we allowed people of different races to marry, but ultimately reason won out.

    What will happen if same sex couples are allowed to marry? They will. So what? Now can we focus on something important, like fixing the economy, creating some jobs, ending global warming?

    Keeping same sex couples from getting married is not a pursuit that warrants the energy that people are willing to spend. Why is it so important to the people who are preparing to take Proposition 8 to the Supreme Court, where they are almost certainly expected to do, according to the Lookout?

    Whatever happened to the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? This country was founded on the ideals of freedom, including religious freedom. Why is it some religious conservatives feel entitled to attempt to legally discriminate against others who are not hurting them personally in any way?

    If this is a "moral issue," then let each of us have our own morals. I spent time in college living in a shared house, and two of my housemates were closeted gays. One was a gay man, the other a lesbian woman. I walked in on a discussion one day and discovered their secret.

    They were both terrified of losing jobs they loved, so they stayed in hiding. I would not have wanted to live either of their lives. The idea that gays and lesbians decide to join an oppressed minority to annoy the religious right is ridiculous. I like to think we've made progress since then, but it seems that we've made less than we should.

    Women had to fight for the vote too, which in hindsight was absurd. Someday the absurdity of Proposition 8 will be just as obvious.

     
    • FulfilledBiblePropheciesP ...  •  3 mths ago
      Jude 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called: 2 Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.

      3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares (ungodly people have infiltrated the church and they support homosexuality and other things God calls sins), who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

      5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an EXAMPLE, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

      8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities (even daring to call God "evil"). 9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. 10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. 11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

      14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, 15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. 16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

      17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18 How that they told you there should be MOCKERS IN THE LAST TIME, WHO WALK AFTER THEIR OWN UNGODLY LUSTS. 19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Holy Spirit. 20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, 21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto ETERNAL LIFE. 22 And of some have compassion, making a difference: 23 And others save with fear, PULLING THEM OUT OF THE FIRE; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

      24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, 25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
    • Jennifer  •  3 mths ago
      In the middle of the journey of our life,
      I found myself again in [or through] a dark wood,
      [so dark] that the straight way was utterly lost.
      Alas how hard it is to say what it was like,
      this savage and sharp and strong forest,
      which even in thought renews my fear!
      So bitter was it that death is little more so;
      but in order to speak of the good that I found there,
      I'll tell of the other things I saw there.

      I can quote books too.
    • Joe  •  3 mths ago
      Footprints

      One night I had a dream--
      I dreamed I was walking along the beach with the Lord
      and across the sky flashed scenes from my life.
      For each scene I noticed two sets of footprints,
      one belonged to me and the other to the Lord.
      When the last scene of my life flashed before me,
      I looked back at the footprints in the sand.
      I noticed that many times along the path of my life,
      there was only one set of footprints.
      I also noticed that it happened at the very lowest
      and saddest times in my life.
      This really bothered me and I questioned the Lord about it.
      "Lord, you said that once I decided to follow you,
      you would walk with me all the way,
      but I have noticed that during the most troublesome times in my life
      there is only one set of footprints.
      "I don't understand why in times when I needed you most,
      you should leave me."
      The Lord replied, "My precious, precious child,
      I love you and I would never, never leave you
      during your times of trial and suffering.
      "When you saw only one set of footprints,
      it was then that I carried you."
    • james  •  3 mths ago
      testing what bigwheel said hetro #$%$
      • james 3 mths ago
        bigwheel was correct why is h/om/o bad however homophob is okay
      • I'm Entitled 3 mths ago
        Homosexual is the medically technical word. Are they censoring that word?
      • Landon 3 mths ago
        i think they are censoring it from so many people using it as an insult to the homosexuals that post on here.
    • SniperOne  •  Carlsbad, California  •  3 mths ago
      Prop 8 going to Supreme Court........
      • JOY 3 mths ago
        Yeah right. i wouldn't hold your breath.
      • the holy grail 3 mths ago
        seperation of church and state, gov't has no need to judge the church, marriage being a religious Christian Holy Matrimony, one man and one woman, sorry deviants
      • NonXNonExX 3 mths ago
        Sorry, HG, but regardless of your opinion of gays, marriage is NOT a "religious Christian Holy Matrimony. Marriage existed long before Xtianity and is practiced in many other religions. Besides, the examples of marriage in the OT are nothing to be proud of or to hold up as examples of what marriage should be.
    • Douglas  •  Seattle, Washington  •  3 mths ago
      The title "Let's Move On" says it well. Some say they are sick of hearing about gay rights and I agree and no one is more tired of this issue than gays and lesbians who will not stop until they have equality. By the way, equality means equivalent rights. No one ever suggests wanting to marry dogs or other animals, polygamy, or marrying children. That was something cooked up in the minds of anti gay rights people.

      Even if you consider this to be an "evil," do you really think that it can damage society like divorce, greed, corruption, war, poverty etc. Can it really destroy your marriage or make your children gay? Is it possible that other issues in these perilous times are more important?

      This issue is not going to go away until the LGBT gets full equality. Those seeking civil rights do not give up. Look at history and you will see that. Furthermore, those under 35 favor gay marriage by 70%. Sure, a court may make a ruling against equality and a referendum against gay marriage may succeed, but when older people die off, the younger and more pro equality will be in the driver's seat.

      So let's move on, I for one am worried about real issues, yet will never concede to the anti equality people. When this issue is behind us, I and many others can focus on dealing with critical problems we face together as a society and gay marriage is not one of them
      • A Yahoo! User 3 mths ago
        The LGBT community has full rights.
      • Jennifer 3 mths ago
        Really? Get a clue Jordan.
      • A Yahoo! User 3 mths ago
        Last time I checked, gays were allowed to get married. They dont get married because most states define marriage as between a man and a woman. Youre the one who needs to get a clue.
    • T  •  3 mths ago
      When a blathering conservative repeats the talking point equating gay marriage with polygamy or pedophilia, etc., ask him/her "So you don't think there is anything wrong with (polygamy, pedophilia, fill in the blank with whatever they're trying to change the subject to)." Because if they had a valid argument against polygamy, etc. that also applied to gay marriage, they would be using that argument without even having to bring up anything else.

      And let's bring up something that the right-wing PC crowd hates: Two of the churches that have been aggressively fighting against civil rights for gay marriage have endorsed polygamy and pedophilia. You'd think they wouldn't want to remind people of that.
      • A Yahoo! User 3 mths ago
        So im guessing you dont think polygamy is a problem?
      • MICHAEL 3 mths ago
        @Jordon ~ yes you are guessing...READ what T wrote!
      • T 3 mths ago
        You're the conservative, Jordan -- you tell me.
    • Jake L  •  3 mths ago
      Why does the State need to recognize marriage in the first place? In doing so they are discriminating against people based on relationship status. If the fight is about equality, then who is looking out for single people? The battle should be to eliminate the State making a distinction between individuals based on relationship status.
    • Polly  •  3 mths ago
      For all those opposed to so-called "gay marriage" (as though it needed a qualifier), I have these questions: If marriage is a legal institution, which it is, what is the sound, non-emotional, logic for granting one group of people access and protection and not another? Should there be two tax brackets then? Should there be separate courts? How about separate schools?
    • yahhooooo  •  Sydney, Australia  •  3 mths ago
      everyone have equal rights. i have never seen any sign anywhere discriminating against homosexuals. we ply the same road, we pay the same taxes, we fly in the same aircraft. where have the rights of homosexuals been denied?
    • Omnipotent  •  3 mths ago
      We live in a secular country, governed by laws. These laws are designed to give equal treatment to each citizen regardless of race, religion, sex, or economic status. Marriage is a legal contract. I know that it has a religious meaning to many, but in the eyes of the law, it is still a legal contract.

      Can anyone give me a legal, valid reason, without the bible verses, or "it's yucky", or "it's perverted", that the US Supreme Court would use to justify upholding a law (or creating one), that would deny civil rights (the right of marriage, in this case) to one group of citizens, while granting them to another. And before anyone post marriage is a "privilege", and not a "right", explain why it would be a "privilege", within the terms of law.
    • Victor 8x10  •  Pleasanton, California  •  3 mths ago
      The rule against marrying more than one person can be shot down with all the same arguments made for Gay marriage, but many who support gay marriage are against polygamy. We can either have rules about marriage or not.
    • Robert Retka  •  3 mths ago
      The little slice of gays here just age the concrete, I'm sure there are more reasoning gays out there, but they tend to stay away from yahoo as my empirical evidence has demonstrated to me.
    • Fedora Man  •  3 mths ago
      This author is obviously very biased. Just because a person is conservative and feels strongly against gay marriage/homosexual behavior does not mean that person is a bigot. There's a difference between refusing to support/affirm a certain behavior versus hatred towards the person who partakes in that behavior.
    • GummiB  •  Ontario, California  •  3 mths ago
      I am not a big fan of St. Paul. He didn't like women either. His advice to women was to sit down and shut up. I much prefer what Jesus, Himself, had to say on the subject. Read the four gospels for that answer, then follow His advice on the subject. Love your neighbor.
    • Robert Retka  •  3 mths ago
      Gretchen I'm not a bigot, I'm a caucasian with an asian partner.
    • william  •  Seattle, Washington  •  3 mths ago
      looking forward to the "gods law" troop to continue turning this country into a christian Iran...sadly they don't realize that's what they're doing.
    • Joe  •  3 mths ago
      Does the Constitution guarantee the right to gay marriage ?

      "Homosexuality was treated as a criminal offense in all of the original thirteen colonies, and eventually every one of the fifty states (see Robinson, 2003; “Sodomy Laws...,” 2003). Severe penalties were invoked for those who engaged in homosexuality. In fact, few Americans know that the penalty for homosexuality in several states was death—including New York, Vermont, Connecticut, and South Carolina (Barton, 2000, pp. 306,482). Most people nowadays would be shocked to learn that Thomas Jefferson advocated “dismemberment” as the penalty for homosexuality in his home state of Virginia, and even authored a bill to that effect (1781, Query 14; cf. 1903, 1:226-227)."

      Its hard for me to see how the authors of the Constitution would say that document guarantees gay marriage when it was a crime punishable by death and dismemberment.
    • pjbac2001  •  3 mths ago
      The two things that cause the right conservative Christian majority to go bananas over: abortion and gay marriage. Both are personal choices and that is what they are so mad about. How about worrying about jobs, the national debt, and the helping the poor in our country?
    • Douglas  •  Seattle, Washington  •  3 mths ago
      I am GAY and though I will not stop fighting for EQUIVALENT rights, It is going to happen with over 70% of people under 35 in support of equality. Millions are being spent on stopping two consenting adults from married, but seriously, is this money well spent? We have serious issues that we must address like greed, environment, poverty, war, nuclear threats, and more. You get the idea I hope.

      So stop! Let's all get on with real problems!
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