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    Geoengineering could save Earth _ or destroy it

    DURBAN, South Africa (AP) — Brighten clouds with sea water? Spray aerosols high in the stratosphere? Paint roofs white and plant light-colored crops? How about positioning "sun shades" over the Earth?

    At a time of deep concern over global warming, a group of scientists, philosophers and legal scholars examined whether human intervention could artificially cool the Earth — and what would happen if it did.

    A report released late Thursday in London and discussed Friday at the U.N. climate conference in South Africa said that — in theory — reflecting a small amount of sunlight back into space before it strike's the Earth's surface would have an immediate and dramatic effect.

    Within a few years, global temperatures would return to levels of 250 years ago, before the industrial revolution began dumping carbon dioxide into the air, trapping heat and causing temperatures to rise.

    But no one knows what the side effects would be.

    They could be physical — unintentionally changing weather patterns and rainfall. Even more difficult, it could be political — spurring conflict among nations unable to agree on how such intervention, or geoengineering, will be controlled.

    The idea of solar radiation management "has the potential to be either very useful or very harmful," said the study led by Britain's Royal Society, the Washington-based Environmental Defense Fund and TWAS, the academy of sciences for the developing world based in Trieste, Italy.

    Environmentalist Silvia Ribeiro, of the Canada-based ETC-Group, said geoengineering should be outlawed before it gets off the ground.

    "Solar radiation management technologies are high-risk and extremely dangerous and they should be treated under international law like nuclear weapons — except, unlike nuclear weapons, we have an opportunity to ban their testing and their proliferation before the technology is fully developed, rather than trying to prevent their proliferation after the fact," she said.

    The final report grew out of three days of talks in a quiet country retreat last March, the climax of a yearlong dialogue spanning experts in 22 countries.

    It was prompted in part by the failure of a 20-year U.N. negotiating process to take decisive action to curb greenhouse gas emissions, mainly from burning fossil fuels, responsible for climate change.

    "The slow progress of international climate negotiations has led to increased concerns that sufficient cuts in greenhouse gas emissions may not be achieved in time to avoid unacceptable levels of climate change," the report said.

    But geoengineering is not an alternative to climate action, said John Shepherd, a British oceanographer from the University of Southampton who was a lead author of the report.

    "Nobody thought this provides a justification for not reducing carbon emissions," Shepherd said in a telephone interview from London.

    "We have to stick with Plan A for the time being, and that could be a very long time indeed," he said. "This would buy time for people to make the transition to a low-carbon economy."

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change foresees temperatures rising as much as 6.4 degrees Celsius (11.5 degrees Fahrenheit) by 2100, swelling the seas with melted glacial water and disrupting climate conditions around the globe.

    Releasing millions of tons of sulfur dioxide in the upper atmosphere would mimic the cooling effects of a volcanic eruption, lowering global temperature about 0.5 Centigrade (0.9 Fahrenheit), which can last for a year or two when it occurs naturally.

    But deliberately tinkering with nature to counter global warming can only be a stopgap measure, and is fraught with danger, the report said.

    Action such as spraying sulfur into the air or brightening clouds with sea water to reflect more sunlight would have to be sustained indefinitely because "there would be a large and rapid climate change if it were terminated suddenly," the report said.

    Hazy skies could alter weather patterns and agriculture, replacing one source of climate change with another.

    Years of study are required to calculate the environmental impacts, but the bigger questions are political.

    Who would decide where and when to conduct experiments, and where to set the global thermostat? What would happen if a country acted on its own without an international agreement? Would it discourage efforts to reduce reliance on fossil fuels and reduce carbon emissions?

    Notions of manipulating the climate to impede global warming have been on the fringe of scientific discussion for some time, but is moving increasingly toward the mainstream.

    In the United States, a group of 18 U.S. experts from the sciences, social sciences and national security unveiled a report in October urging the federal government to begin research on the feasibility and potential effectiveness of geoengineering.

    "The United States needs to be able to judge whether particular climate remediation techniques could offer a meaningful response to the risks of climate change," said that report sponsored by the Bipartisan Policy Center.

    Shepherd said the 65-page Thursday's report was intended to start the conversation.

    "No government asked us to do this. The U.N. didn't ask us," he said.

    "I hope it can be continued in a more formal and mandated framework, because eventually somebody will have to take some decisions."

     

    407 comments

    • JamesS  •  5 mths ago
      Good intentions can lead to unintended consequences. We're just not as smart as we think.
      • Drudge Report 5 mths ago
        Especially the libtards that think they can control the weather. Like democrats AP obama etc.
      • Gman 5 mths ago
        Especially the conservatives that think they can think...
      • USSDHS 5 mths ago
        It's not about conservatives or liberals. You guys are obviously on the payrolls of both parties. Get real! Both of them have been trying to kill us with alumimium for years now. Look up every single time your outside and you will see the catastrophe happening before your eyes!
    • Aquarianus  •  Boston, United States  •  5 mths ago
      "Releasing millions of tons of sulfur dioxide in the upper atmosphere..."

      Yeah lets inject millions of tons of pollution into the atmosphere. That's just brilliant.
      • george 5 mths ago
        How much methane was expelled by the buffalo when he roamed the American heart land? Did this have an effect on the planet?
      • Damn You 5 mths ago
        @George, it has currently been replaced by an equal number of burrito eating mexicans roaming the American heart land!!!!!!!!!!
      • Free American Thinker 5 mths ago
        OK--I will eat some burritos and fire a few big ones!!! Maybe I eat some especially prepared ones and fire out some sulfur dioxide in place of methane!!!
    • Ken  •  Livingston, United States  •  5 mths ago
      I too have some really stupid ideas, that I want someone else to pay for.
    • j  •  Sunnyvale, United States  •  5 mths ago
      i thought spraying aerosols high in the stratosphere was just a conspiracy theory!!!!
      • Mark 5 mths ago
        yeah -just like ohblammers birth certificate
      • Miss 5 mths ago
        It's supposed to mimic volanoes. Huge volcanic blasts cool the atmosphere.
    • Bill Derberg  •  5 mths ago
      Uhh yeah it's already destroying it. Either that or the GMO is causing colony collapse disorder, and the plants are having a hard time growing in the aluminum. And of course Monsanto has seeds ready that are modified and can grow in the aluminum.
      • Our Food Is Killing Us 5 mths ago
        It's terrible, the moss is growing like crazy around here, trees are dying all over the place, they are also growing moss and lichens on them like I've never seen before (probably due to the chemtrail haze and possibly the pH being altered to the low end of the scale- which encourages moss and lichens, they like a low pH). Not only that, but the high altitude spray makes it so the suns rays don't scatter correctly and we rarely ever have a sunset anymore! Then, if you get up in the morning on a clear but chemtrail laden sky day) with the rising sun in front of you, if the weather is below freezing you can see almost microscopic 'snow' coming down, which I believe is the chemtrail droplets condensing into snow flakes.
      • thale138 5 mths ago
        I got aluminum put up on my walls to keep the rays out of my head, what aluminum are you talking about?
      • Sambo 5 mths ago
        Thale138, they have been spraying aluminum oxide as well as barium into the skies since the early nineties on a large scale, more and more each year. watch the youtube documentary "what are they spraying on us" and then go look in the sky above you and see for yourself. it is quite obvious.
    • Bill  •  Louisville, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Depending on our governments to control the climate.... hmm lets see how well they are doing at managing other things.....
    • chris12  •  Southold, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Socrates said
      "I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing. "
      • Nickels 5 mths ago
        Sgt Schultz on Hogan's Heros said the same thing, "I know nussing"
      • Bender 5 mths ago
        wait a minute, i thought that it was obama who said that.
      • Our Food Is Killing Us 5 mths ago
        No, Obama said "I know that I know everything and nothing, at the same time.
    • L.C. - ABO!  •  Huntington Beach, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Man can not destroy the earth, he can destroy his self and many of the life forms on it but, once he has died out the earth will repair itself of any damage he caused and start over.
    • Paul  •  Daytona Beach, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Tera-forming: Shades of sci-fi novels in the fifties and sixties. Man still trying to tamper with natures environment, hoping to do some good, and wishing like crazy not to destroy everything.
    • Rob  •  Miami, United States  •  5 mths ago
      LMAO these same coutnries that want to act as if they are Captain Planet cant even balance there own countries budgets....lets get back to the basics people and focus on things we really understand and can controll in our communities.
    • Durangotang  •  5 mths ago
      The concern is if we develop a way to offset "global warming" the rich countries won't be sending the promised $100 billion/yr to poor countries. Is there anybody that still believes the UN is concerned about carbon pollution?? It is all about wealth redistribution.
    • Iva  •  5 mths ago
      Do they think we are blind? Look up at the checkerboard in the sky.
    • Odd Duck  •  5 mths ago
      "Stop the world, I want to get off!"
    • Ginger  •  5 mths ago
      The Law of Unintended Consequences is not to be trifled with.
    • jri3  •  5 mths ago
      People have been gravitating to the cities for the last 70 years. The vast majority of the population in the US live in urban centers away for farming and ranching. These city people see nature and the world as all paved streets and concrete. They see animals as pets. Their world is very finite. These people get their understanding of deer from talking animated films like Bamby and their understanding of nature from National Geographic Specials. It is not a true representation of nature, wild animals, the food cycle or farming. It is a very twisted sense of reality. There is a hysteria born of this new reality and fed by scientific data that proves nothing more than the planet has cycles of warming and cooling. People that live closer to the land see the natural cycles of nature and yet do not depend of nature to behave like clockwork.
    • Marcus  •  Allendale, United States  •  5 mths ago
      With this type of thinking were already doomed!!
    • Arnold  •  5 mths ago
      They put out a story to gauge people's feelings toward a plan to do what they've already been doing for 20 years. I suspect they now intend to do it at a level that is impossible to discount as conspiracy theory. This may be a good time to buy stock in face masks and air purification systems.
    • Joe  •  Waco, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Messing with Mother Nature never turns out well no matter what your intentions may be. Leave her alone!
    • Hounddoggin  •  Atlanta, United States  •  5 mths ago
      I don't know why they are so worried about climate change. We are going to kill each other before that can come about.
    • 3C-PO  •  Bangor, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Lmao ! A.K.A. Chemtrails......the soil in my gardens has a high presence of Aluminum, which is approaching "toxic" levels....If I can't grow my own food then I will have to buy the GMO altered foods from Monsanto. Ever hear the old saying "He who controls the food controls the world ?" Conspiricy theorists are only crazy until you read it in the news...imagine what they're NOT teling you ?....scary.
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