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    GOP co-chair: Debt talks a 'roller coaster ride'

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Republican co-chair of a committee in charge of slashing the nation's deficit on Sunday called deliberations a "roller coaster ride" and gave no indication that a deal could be struck before the panel's Thanksgiving deadline.

    Texas Rep. Jeb Hensarling said the panel will fail unless Democrats agree to significant "structural" changes to entitlement programs like Medicare and Social Security. When asked whether that could be done in a matter of days, he said "we haven't given up hope."

    "But if this were easy, the president of the United States (Barack Obama) and the speaker of the House (John Boehner) would have gotten it done themselves," Hensarling said.

    The supercommittee has until Nov. 23 to agree on how to reduce the deficit by at least $1.2 trillion in the next decade. Any amount less than that would be made up in automatic across-the-board cuts divided evenly between defense and domestic programs.

    The panel has been stymied for weeks over taxes. Democrats want to raise revenue by making tax code changes that directly add money to government coffers. Republicans have agreed to increase government revenue, but are demanding large cuts to benefit programs, which they say are bleeding Americans dry.

    Both sides have blamed the other for failing to move forward. Last week, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said that Obama has told panel members that their finished product must contain both sources of new revenue, or taxes, as well as spending cuts.

    At a press conference at the Asia-Pacific economic summit in Hawaii Sunday, Obama said he hopes lawmakers will "bite the bullet and do what needs to be done," but voiced frustration with what he said was a desire by some members of Congress to "want to keep jiggering the math" to get a different outcome.

    The president refused to say whether he would veto any effort to bypass the deep cuts in defense and other spending that would take effect if there is no deal forthcoming from Congress.

    Hensarling offered no new talking points Sunday, indicating that the two sides remain far from reaching consensus.

    "We want more revenues. We just want to raise it by growing the economy," he said.

    Likewise, Democratic panel member Rep. James Clyburn offered no hint that a real compromise was in the works.

    "We've got 10 days to do this, and I really believe that all of the ingredients for a good resolution are there. We just need to build the will," said Clyburn, D-S.C. At the same time, Clyburn accused Republicans of wanting to cut a billionaire's tax bill by $300,000 while eliminating Medicare for people on a fixed income.

    "That is just not fair," he said.

    Pennsylvania Sen. Pat Toomey, a Republican member of the committee, defended his latest proposal as one that would get the economy moving again. Toomey and other Republicans want to generate at least $250 billion in new revenue by limiting tax deductions but only if Democrats agree to drop the top tax rate from 35 percent to 28 percent.

    "You absolutely can do this in a way that will be pro-growth, that will generate more revenue, (and) that would avoid this huge tax increase that's coming otherwise," Toomey said.

    Democrats have rejected the idea as something that will ultimately cost more than it would save, and called for a mix of $1 trillion in spending cuts and $1 trillion in higher tax revenue over the next decade.

    Virginia Sen. Mark Warner, a Democrat who supports entitlement and tax reform, suggested that politics was the biggest culprit in preventing a deal.

    "You'll know this supercommittee is getting close when folks on both ends of the political extreme scream the loudest, because that will show that there's actually movement being made," he said.

    Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., agreed.

    "We can fix our problems but we require leadership from the president, and the leaders from the House and the Senate to say 'we're going to do this.' And we have not seen that on both sides of the aisle and that's disappointing," he said.

    Coburn, a vocal opponent of any tax increase, said he could stand the idea of increasing government revenues if the money comes from restructuring entitlement programs.

    "I want to tell you, we're going to touch Medicare because there's no way we can borrow the money five years from now to run Medicare the way it is today," he said. "The question really is, will politicians do what is best for the country or best for their party and position?"

    Hensarling, Warner and Coburn spoke on CNN's "State of the Union." Toomey and Clyburn spoke on "Fox News Sunday."

     
    • HD Guy  •  Crescent City, United States  •  6 mths ago
      All we have left are Politicians, self serving, bought and paid for by special interests. All the Statesmen are dead, as will be our nation unless our elected, sworn to uphold the Constitution and serve the peoole leadership, can meet somewhere in the middle.
      • MrP_loves_the _USA 6 mths ago
        I am glad you made a comment that is on target. Most people are commenting
        about things that may not be good, but are insignificant to the real issue.
        Its not just about the Congress' pay, or even some of entitlements (though, these
        are real issues). There are other factors that dwarf these concerns.
      • nick b 6 mths ago
        I think that word is now spelled poLIEticians!!!:)
      • Susan Beal 6 mths ago
        The supercommittee of incompetent corrupt politicians, what you expect?
    • JustTheFactsPlease  •  Spokane, United States  •  6 mths ago
      "The question really is, will politicians do what is best for the country or best for their party and position?"

      Above is the bottom line folks. Can anyone guess which alternative will be paramount in their minds. Of course they don't have to worry about health insurance (medicare) or the absence of income when they are older do they. These Federal (entitled) Employees are set up for life with a $174,000 per year salary and free healthcare for ever. TALK ABOUT ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS, but do you see these on the table. Why is that do you think?
      • Ryan 6 mths ago
        Well stated. Until we get the money and entitlements out of our government they will NEVER have the interest of the nation at heart. Why would they when they are so totally sheltered from it ?
      • Jonnie 6 mths ago
        dude, i understand the concern about fed employees salary, but the majority of the public, including you simply DONT understand the scope of the debt....20 percent is defense, 20 percent is social security, 14-15 is medicare, 8 is medicaid, 7 is interest on debt and the rest is for education etc.....federal employee pay is about .01 percent of the debt....so we just need to be realistic and understand that the public will need to make sacrifices in the form of benefits or tax increases on the upper class.
      • DONALD 6 mths ago
        Same old,same old story. Just a bunch of do nothing, overpaid politicians.
    • Leona  •  Fair Oaks, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Super committee? Super joke!!! Did anyone really expect these idiots to do their jobs?
      • Susan Beal 6 mths ago
        The supercommittee of incompetent corrupt politicians, what you expect?
      • Theo_Bromine 6 mths ago
        What were they thinking putting an equal number of R & D on the comittee? There should have been at least 1 Independent member for a tie breaker.
      • A Yahoo! User 6 mths ago
        The "Super Committee" shouldn't have been formed in the first place. Just another smokescreen for the public. The ENTIRE congress should be deciding on these issues but of course then they would have to go on record.
    • Benefit Society  •  Sun Prairie, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Having spent 26 years in the military I feel I can say this: we need to cut defense spending. There is a lot of waste that can be scaled back. Also, I agree that we need to stop rebuilding other countries infrastructure and rebuild our own.
      • Craig 6 mths ago
        If we cut 30% off of military spending we would have an INSTANT surplus.
        Here is a fact for you: The usa spends the most on military in the world. And you can safely say that is an extreme understatement.
        If you added the #2 spot ALL THE WAY to the #20 spot of greatest military spenders in the world the USA would still out spend the total.
        If we cut the military by 30% we STILL would spend more than ALL 1ST world countries combined!
        But of course how will the republicon fueled companies like haliburton get all their pork eh?
      • Nolan 6 mths ago
        One thing we can do to cut cost in the military, restore KP. I had KP many times in the service, it is not degrading or harmful.
      • Eric 6 mths ago
        Unfortunately, Republicans won't have that ever!
    • Ron Murphy  •  Louisville, United States  •  6 mths ago
      let the super committee start with putting all of the senate and house members in the social-security plan and medicare plan just like the rest of the little people...
      • MrP_loves_the _USA 6 mths ago
        No, that would be a waste of time. First, lets get rid of the super-committee,
        and go back to a process that is Constitutional. The first thing we need
        is a criminal investigation of many members of Congress, the Whitehouse
        Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and the Federal Reserve.
      • MrP_loves_the _USA 6 mths ago
        Stop referring to the citizens as the little people. We are way more in aggregate than "them". We need to re-establish that the purpose of government is to
        protect the God Given Liberties of the Individual. We need to re-assert our powers
        over the banking system, those powers that were usurped by the private bank,
        the Federal Reserve.
      • danbo 6 mths ago
        Hate to tell you guys this but the Congress IS on the FERS (Federal Employee Retirement System), which is a combination of Social Security and a 401K program called the TSP. Now if they have been in there BEFORE 1986, then they would be on the CSRS retirement system which is NOT on social security, but these would be for the older ones....
    • Benefit Society  •  Sun Prairie, United States  •  6 mths ago
      The government has been borrowing from Social Security for decades knowing full well that baby boomers were going to be retiring and taking out of it.
    • cheri  •  6 mths ago
      Politicians will always look out for themselves first., why would they want to lose their jobs, then they would be like the rest of us....
    • I Agree  •  French Camp, United States  •  6 mths ago
      they all need to start with cutting their salaries and pensions.hell! their already rich and live high off the hog as it is,and they want to take from the middle class?funny!! they haven't said a word about cutting from there#$%$
    • Papillon  •  Tampa, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Why is it almost every civilian knows what needs to be done but Washington doesnt? Could it be they're trying to make sure the thoudands of un-needed programs that fund their buddies is in jepardy? Bastids!
    • CDoyle  •  Columbia, United States  •  6 mths ago
      So if they come to no agreement the forced cuts do not start until 2013 AFTER the election... So who thinks they will accomplish anything? Watch as they accomplish nothing and they just vote to kick it down the road again... How stupid are we to allow this to keep happening?
    • Wil  •  6 mths ago
      Social security isn't bleeding America dry.The overpaid,do-nothing proffesional politicians are
    • barbaram  •  San Antonio, United States  •  6 mths ago
      almost 300 companies that made billions in profits paid no taxes and many actually got money back because of write-offs and subsidies. they don't need to raise taxes, they just need to rewrite the tax code. doesn't take a rocket scientist #$%$
    • RTF  •  Carlisle, United States  •  6 mths ago
      I do not understand why SS is called an entitlement...I and my employer pay/paid for it.
    • OlLady  •  6 mths ago
      So we eliminate SS and medicare. Then what? Shift the burden to the States? Instead of a program people paid into their whole working lives, they go on welfare? Can't these politicians see past their own noses?
    • Douglas  •  6 mths ago
      We paid into Social Security all out lives and are now "ENTITLED" to receive its full benefits.l
    • TheWayitIs  •  6 mths ago
      how does a program you mandatory pay into paycheck after paycheck, no exceptions year after year become an entitlement program? we all pay into it, leave it alone!
    • PAULETTEF  •  Los Angeles, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Social Security IS NOT AN ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM....Most of us have paid into the system our entire working lives....the Congress is on entitlement programs...cut their salaries and their time and put them on what the rest of Americans have to live on. No more than one term and NO life time retirements for doing NOTHING except trying to get re-elected...
    • AptosMark  •  San Francisco, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Me and The Republicans part ways at calling Social Security and Medicare, "entitlement programs. These are not entitlement programs, they are annuity programs. People paid in wit an expectation of return at a future time. You want to cut "entitlment programs?" Cut welfare and other freebie handout programs. Those are "entitlement programs." Leave the annuity programs alone and stop robbing them to pay for things outside of what they were designed to do.
    • Aquarius  •  6 mths ago
      Politics as usual on both sides. Clean house. Vote 'em out and start over.
    • Benefit Society  •  Sun Prairie, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Our elected politicians need to do what is important and needed for the country and stop this partisan fighting. I have not ever seen it this bad and I have been voting for nearly four decades.
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