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    GOP debate: Hitting hard at each other _ and Obama

    AMES, Iowa (AP) — Minnesota rivals Tim Pawlenty and Michele Bachmann sparred bitterly Thursday night during an eight-candidate Republican debate, trying to break out of the GOP presidential pack ahead of an Iowa test vote with huge consequences. Each seeks to become the main challenger to Republican front-runner Mitt Romney.

    Their efforts were newly complicated by Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who stole some of the spotlight from afar by making it known hours before the debate that he was running for the GOP nomination.

    Romney, a multimillionaire businessman who casts himself as a jobs creator, made his own stir earlier in the day when, at the Iowa State Fair, he declared that "corporations are people," drawing ridicule from Democrats.

    Those were just the latest twists in the most consequential week yet in the 2012 Republican presidential nomination fight.

    In the two-hour debate, the squabbling by Pawlenty and Bachmann allowed Romney, the GOP front-runner making his second presidential bid, to remain above the fray and emerge relatively unscathed by his rivals.

    Though every debate participant assailed President Barack Obama, it was clear from the confrontations between Pawlenty, a former Minnesota governor, and Bachmann, now a member of Congress, who had the most on the line ahead of Saturday's straw poll that could well winnow the field.

    On stage just a few minutes, Pawlenty, who is struggling to gain traction despite spending years laying the groundwork for his campaign, accused Bachmann of achieving nothing significant in Congress, lacking executive experience and having a history of fabrications.

    "She's got a record of misstating and making false statements," Pawlenty said.

    Bachmann, who has risen in polls since entering the race this summer and has eclipsed Pawlenty, quickly responded with a list of what she called Pawlenty's liberal policies when he was Minnesota's governor, including his support for legislation to curb industrial emissions.

    "You said the era of small government is over," she told Pawlenty. "That sounds a lot like Barack Obama if you ask me."

    Much of the rest of the debate was heavily focused on the Democratic incumbent, with Romney and his seven rivals each seeking to prove he or she was the strongest Republican to take on Obama.

    "I'm not going to eat Barack Obama's dog food," Romney said when asked whether he would have vetoed the compromise legislation that Congress gave to the president that raised the debt ceiling. "What he served up is not what I would have done if I'd had been president of the United States."

    Notably absent from the eight-candidate spectacle were Perry, who was in Texas preparing for a weekend announcement tour to early primary states, and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who isn't a candidate but was stoking presidential speculation anew with a visit to the Iowa State Fair.

    The nation's teetering economic situation shadowed the debate, with stock market volatility and a downgrade in the U.S. credit rating giving Republicans ample opportunities to criticize Obama. The Democratic president will get his shot to counter the criticism next week during a Midwestern bus tour that will take him through this state that helped launch him on the path to the White House four years ago.

    On Thursday, he, too, tried to align himself with a public fed up with economic uncertainty and Washington gridlock. "There is nothing wrong with our country. There is something wrong with our politics," he declared in Michigan, where he was touring an advanced-battery factory

    In Iowa Thursday night, the Republicans commanded the spotlight.

    Seven candidates — Pawlenty, Bachmann, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia, Texas Rep. Ron Paul, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and businessman Herman Cain — sought to separate themselves from the packed field and emerge as the chief alternative to Romney.

    Pawlenty, who hesitated in a June debate to criticize the former Massachusetts governor, this time accused him of sharing views with Obama on spending and health care. "We're going to have to show contrast, not similarities" with the incumbent president, Pawlenty said.

    He sought repeatedly to tie Romney and Obama together by poking at both.

    "Where's Barack Obama on these issues. You can't find his plans on the most pressing issues in this country," Pawlenty said, promising audience members and TV viewers he would "come to your house and cook you dinner" if they could find Obama's proposals. "Or if you prefer I'll come to your house and mow your lawn ... In case Mitt wins, I'd limit it to one acre."

    Romney, who has several homes, smiled and took a pass when given a chance to respond, saying: "That's just fine."

    He kept his focus on Obama, saying: "Our president simply doesn't understand how to lead and how to grow the economy." He also criticized Democrat Obama on the downgrade of the nation's credit rating.

    Appearing in his first presidential debate, Huntsman acknowledged he had not yet presented an economic plan, but he cited his economic record as governor of Utah as evidence of what he would accomplish as president. He defended his service as ambassador to China under Obama as a patriotic act.

    Huntsman, who is not competing in the Iowa caucuses where social conservatives dominate, also tried to differentiate himself from the rest of the field. He defended his support for civil unions and offered no apologies for other moderate positions he holds.

    Gingrich, pressed on the implosion of his campaign amid financial strife and infighting earlier this summer, chastised the Fox News panel for "gotcha questions." He said Republicans including Ronald Reagan and John McCain had staff defections during their campaigns, and he said he intended, in his words, to "run on ideas."

    Roughly 45 minutes into the debate, Santorum raised his hand and said: "I haven't gotten to say a lot."

    Showing the wide diversity of opinion, Paul gave a staunchly libertarian answer to nearly every question from the economy to foreign affairs, essentially saying the United States should have friendly relations even with countries that violate human rights and not interfere in their internal affairs. "It's about time we talk to Cuba," Paul said at one point. He also said the United States had created the hostile relations between itself and Iran.

    Even before the debate began, it was a campaign day to remember.

    At an appearance early in the day, Romney was badgered by hecklers at the state fair. In response to chanting about corporations, he said that "corporations are people," a comment Democrats predicted would be a defining moment of his campaign.

    Romney, who has struggled with an aloof and elitist image as he tries for the GOP presidential nomination a second time, made the remark while outlining options for reducing the federal deficit and overhauling entitlement programs.

    Despite tea party outrage that sometimes focuses on banks and auto companies, Romney has said to applause from GOP audiences that the rights of business are being trampled under Obama to the detriment of the struggling economy. But in Thursday's audience, the line encountered resistance.

    A few hours after Romney's awkward moment, Perry spokesman Mark Miner confirmed that the Texas governor would announce that he was running for president while in early primary states on Saturday.

    Perry's candidacy is certain to upend the race, and he could challenge Romney for the role of jobs-focused candidate.

    The conservative governor is seen as a potential bridge between the party's social and economic wings.

    Asked about Perry's candidacy during the debate, several of his opponents welcomed him to the race — and used the opportunity to criticize him. Cain called Perry "one more politician," while Paul said he was pleased Perry was joining the field because "he represents the status quo."

     

    3,577 comments

    • elr456  •  9 mths ago
      NEVER did Ron Paul bash Obama. He talked about his policies which he has stuck to for nearly 30 years. The Fed is creating money out of thin air and we are spending trillions on useless wars. Rick Santorum behaved like an absolute PRICK today. He interrupted Dr. Paul's answer about foreign policy THREE TIMES. That is disrespectful. Yet when Santorum said "Ron Paul is wrong on some things" Ron let him finish despite the criticism. Only Santorum FAILED on his third try because the people applauded and silenced him. If you've had enough of these wars, money printed out of thin air, then vote RON PAUL 2012 in the primaries!!!! He is our only hope. Also, when Ron's time ran out he had to plead so they could let him finish. Yet Santorum ran out of time and one host said "Oh you can finish."
      • Tim 9 mths ago
        yeah, 30+ years as a friggin politicain whith plenty of pork earmarks he sponsered in the last two years. Look up his earmark spending. He even co-sponsered bills with Arlen Specter!!! How low can you go!! You RP fans dont look past the the kind old face.
      • Pat 9 mths ago
        Ron Paul is interesting
      • Not as old as I feel 9 mths ago
        Like other politicians in the past, he can't grow the base for what might be a good thing for the country. Not sure where we would be if Ross Perot had gotten the base needed to win an election!
    • O  •  9 mths ago
      Well I guess this time its better coverage on Paul than the last debate. Last time the author of the AP article said "Ron Paul did nothing to help his status as a fringe candidate talking about obscure topics such as monetary policy and kinsean economics." How in the world is monetary policy an obscure topic? It goes to show that the media tells people how to think rather than simply present the news.
      • A Yahoo! User 9 mths ago
        Keynesian economics are the cornerstone of social democratic thinking. If a reporter didn't know that, they shouldn't be reporting.
      • Who owns the fed 9 mths ago
        They talk as if it's over most American's heads and most Americans accept that without doing any research. The media has turned into a tool of cultural marxism, shaping the opinions of the masses. Orwell would be so proud. Maybe we can have 2 minutes hate after morning exercise.
      • Natey 9 mths ago
        I remember that article, what an idioit reporter.
    • HitchRK  •  9 mths ago
      "Though everyone on the stage assailed President Barack Obama" - Um, Ron Paul never once said anything about Obama, don't lump him in with the rest.
      • A Yahoo! User 9 mths ago
        Oh? Okay. And he had nothing of substance to say, either.
      • yahooblows 9 mths ago
        You are absolutely correct & I completely agree that Ron Paul is the most realistic candidate the Repub party has to offer. Sadly, I don't see him electable because of the lack of intellect of the average voter, wish I had more faith in my party but they show me over & over they are fragmented in their support while those damn Demnuts get it done.......a real pity IMHO
      • Greg 9 mths ago
        the media says almost nothing about him
    • Sally  •  9 mths ago
      Dr. Paul told the truth about corporatism in health care.
      • Vic 9 mths ago
        Too bad his suggested solution doesn't fix the problem and only leaves more people without access to healthcare.
      • Who owns the fed 9 mths ago
        Healthcare isn't a God given right. Stealing from people to pay for your needs is immoral.
      • BA113R 9 mths ago
        Yeah but with his reform people won't need these so called "benefits"
    • clipper  •  9 mths ago
      I'm a liberal, but I love Ron Paul. I can't help it. He's no-nonsesne up there, and, despite a little awkwardness, expresses his views with a great combination of nuance and conviction. Needless to say, as a progressive, I'm not to keen on his economic ideas, but I love him on foreign policy and greatly respect his character. And the fact that the media is ignoring him and his ideas while he has so much grassroots support is downright Orwellian and immoral. It's a travesty what's happened in this country.
      • impartial 9 mths ago
        I agree in every way.
      • Crystal 9 mths ago
        I'm with you! I don't really know where I stand but I LOVE Ron Paul! And actu
      • Miguel R 9 mths ago
        Ron Paul has just cemented his victory as the future VP nominee. NO way in hell will the GOP let Paul's momentum die with him. He's firm on his stances and is gaining traction with millions of voters. If they choose to ignore him, it will be the costliest mistake come November. You heard it first from me.
    • Tony Bechnainou  •  9 mths ago
      If the people had common sense Ron Paul would be #1 in the polls. I swear people should have basic economic understanding before they vote. Make it mandatory to take a non-bias (almost impossible) economics course and just maybe we can end up with a good president from either side!
    • H3  •  9 mths ago
      I was watching the debate on the Yahoo blog here on the internet and it had a vote section that asked "who do you think won the debate." Most people said Ron Paul (and Ron Paul had a MUCH higher number of people who voted for him much higher than all of the other candidates, but Yahoo is saying that Mitt Romney is the front runner of the debate. That's so crazy and weird. I don't trust Yahoo news. Why are they lying???
    • Saad A  •  9 mths ago
      Ron Paul's character is worth more than the other 7 combined. He's the only one that has not been bought by the big corporations.
    • Slugnuts7  •  9 mths ago
      Wow! Way to give no coverage to Ron Paul and misquote him. Everyone knows that the U.S. needs to stop being the police of the world. Its not our job and we can't afford it. Ron Paul is in step with the American people. We've looked like fools enough already with Iraq and Afghanistan. Lets stop this silliness and get the money back where it belongs, in the U.S. economy!
    • LAND OF THE FREE  •  9 mths ago
      SO HOW DOES IT MAKE AMERICA FEEL WHEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO ADDRESS JOBS AND BACHMANN TALKS ABOUT A LIGHTBULB BILL? ANYONE
    • Silversurfer8016  •  9 mths ago
      Ron Paul has a sign on his desk "Don't steal, the government doesn't like competition."
    • Funk-y  •  9 mths ago
      if you look at the comments on any page, there all about Ron Paul.
    • chuck  •  9 mths ago
      news media denies ron paul again! ron paul 2012!!! repost everywhere
    • BobM  •  9 mths ago
      He's Back The Good Dr. Paul, I will do what ever I can to help his campaign!
      Wake-Up Brothers & Sister's Ron Paul would have never gave money to the bank's to leverage you out of your home!
    • Biggiedawgerton  •  9 mths ago
      Why does the media still ignore the most popular candidate, RON PAUL!?
    • Lefty  •  9 mths ago
      The only candidate that doesn't bend over for the big banks is RON PAUL!!!

      *******RON PAUL 2012*******
    • dennis  •  9 mths ago
      another independent here, I have to say Ron Paul is the only logical choice in this field.
    • Christopher  •  9 mths ago
      Military spending is at 880 billion from 300 billion pre 9/01. (580 billion)
      Petroleum subsidies (100 billion)
      Corn Subsidies (25 billion)

      3 items 700 billion saved.
      Repeal Bush Tax Scam (+700 billion revenues)

      Have petroleum industry pay 30% actual tax. (+400 billion revenues)

      That's a 400 billion per year surplus to pay off the 14, soon 17 trillon dollar debt - the real problem.

      But I bet you think Social Security which is a self funded program raided over decades should pay more?

      Maybe let the old people get sick?
      Or, just vote to ream everyone under 55? (Ryan's Plan)

      At this time 15 million people spend 1/3 of the USA's disposable income.
      15 million people out of 6.4 billion consume 1/9th of the worlds resources.
      330 million out of 6.4 billion consume 1/3 of the worlds resources.
      Look at London before you answer.
    • Thomas  •  9 mths ago
      Ron Paul!! Poor guy gets no respect and he's the most honest man in the room. And you can tell he doesn't have prepared answers for the obvious questions. Vote freedom! Dr. Ron Paul!
    • N A  •  9 mths ago
      Ron Paul could actually fix things. Imagine a president that doesn't live to ban things
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